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post #301 of 1887
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Originally Posted by vikingfan View Post

So you'd pay $15 for a theatrical release on your VUDU, that as many people that could fit in your living room/home theater could watch. All that lost revenue is something you think studios would ever agree too?

I'm already not going to the theater...ever...it's been years. So what is the studio missing out on again?

bald
post #302 of 1887
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Originally Posted by nded View Post

Out of the box the Vudu does not support IR control. The IR kit for the Vudu (allowing you to use your Pronto) is sold on the vudu website for $39. I've seen them on eBay occasionally for much less.

Yes. I picked up a second one on Ebay for a avery good price. I also picked up the VUDU case through Amazon. It's excellent for carrying the VUDU back and forth between locations.
post #303 of 1887
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Originally Posted by Bozster View Post

I think you are taking it too far. I'm certainly not going to have 20 people watching the movie and even if I wanted to it's pretty impossible. Who's gonna do that? But even without that, you still pay premium for the privilege. They won't lose money because a lot of people who have theaters and use Vudu most likely don't even go to the theater but wait for the release on Vudu or DVD or Blu-Ray to watch home, and those who do, will continue going to the theater. At least I think so based on what I've heard from people like I am.

But one can dream and hope that day will come. At the very least it would be something that would kick theater chains in the behind and force them to provide better experience for movie watching so you would not want to stay home.

The theater chains are offering something better with 3D projectors and IMAX(and IMAX 3D) theaters.
If a movie is available in IMAX I will only see it in the IMAX theater now. It is so much better than the reguar theater.
I haven't seen a 3D film or 3D IMAX film yet, but I know several people who have and they could not stop praising it. They couldn't believe how good the 3D was. Hopefully I'll get a chance to see a 3D film later this year since there are several high profile films being released in 3D this year.

And of course I am using my VUDU boxes more andmore. I just wish they would hurry up and offer an external storage solution. My mainbox is pretty full now so I can only rent one or two titles and I have to wait for the extended viewing period offer to end before I can rent something else.
post #304 of 1887
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Originally Posted by Bozster View Post


But one can dream and hope that day will come. At the very least it would be something that would kick theater chains in the behind and force them to provide better experience for movie watching so you would not want to stay home.

I totally agree - I have a pretty nice home theater and I would love to pay $15+ for a new theatrical release. I would have 8 people over and for me it is the holy grail of movie watching. Prior to the studio clamp down - we used to do this all the time with the Oscar movies that were sent out to the academy. It was a total blast - I would definately pay for this pay per view experience.

Also, I do not think the dream is to far off or that the studios will lose that much money. Heck, Landmark is already doing this with select movies introducing them on HDNET at the same time the theatrical release comes out. Albeit - this is a very small niche that HDNET is involved in but it is already happening. I saw Flawless on HDNET the day it was released in the theater - and it was a great experience to have people watch it in my home theater. It did not hurt that it was actually a pretty good movie also.

If VUDU could pull this off - I think they would have a home run.
post #305 of 1887
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Originally Posted by Free View Post

I have been noticing that many of the HDX titles are now showing download times of 2 hours, however that is half of the time that it actually takes. I made the mistake tonight of planning a movie, that was supposed to take two hours to download, but it took twice that long, and was unable to watch it. I won't make that mistake again, but am wondering what is going on??

I wonder if it has to do with popularity and server congestion. We started Appaloosa HDX at 4 p.m. thinking we'd be ready at 8 p.m. Once the download started it gave us an ever increasing ETA and ended up being 8:45 p.m. I believe Appaloosa is the current #1 download so without the extensive peer-to-peer network in place it may take longer.

Last night we added some upcoming movies to our wish list. I guess we are going to plan ahead by 5 hours from now on. Impulse renting will have to be HD rather than HDX. You don't miss out on much on the video side.

We've DL'ed 10 movies now in 17 days from our box. Seems high but there are so many choices at your finger tips and the ease and speed in which to get them makes it a winner in our household.
post #306 of 1887
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

The theater chains are offering something better with 3D projectors and IMAX(and IMAX 3D) theaters.
If a movie is available in IMAX I will only see it in the IMAX theater now. It is so much better than the reguar theater.
I haven't seen a 3D film or 3D IMAX film yet, but I know several people who have and they could not stop praising it. They couldn't believe how good the 3D was. Hopefully I'll get a chance to see a 3D film later this year since there are several high profile films being released in 3D this year.

And of course I am using my VUDU boxes more andmore. I just wish they would hurry up and offer an external storage solution. My mainbox is pretty full now so I can only rent one or two titles and I have to wait for the extended viewing period offer to end before I can rent something else.

Good point, but I'm not overwhelming excited by IMAX to be honest with you. I appreciate the extra quality but theaters are still behind with technology. They are trying but they didn't have a lot of incentive to upgrade overall.
post #307 of 1887
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Originally Posted by Bozster View Post

Good point, but I'm not overwhelming excited by IMAX to be honest with you. I appreciate the extra quality but theaters are still behind with technology. They are trying but they didn't have a lot of incentive to upgrade overall.


IMAX is all digital, no film using DLP projectors. At least the IMAX theaters at AMC are in my area.
Although they only have one IMAX theater and one 3D theater(that also uses a DLP projector) at each of the two AMC cineplexes near me that we frequent.(there are actually several AMC cineplexes within 20 minutes of me but my girlfriend and I only go to two of them, an 18 screen and a 22 screen)
At least it's a start. It will be nice when they drop film and go digital with all their theaters. If that ever happens.
post #308 of 1887
post #309 of 1887
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Originally Posted by Richard Tywoniak View Post

http://www.cepro.com/article/after_c...m_medium=email


This was just posted on cepro

Awesome article, thanks for posting it. Vudu is sure precariously poised to take the whole market or fall flat on its face. I hope that some VC's can throw some money at Vudu to make sure it's the former.
post #310 of 1887
Agreed - All the other services seem geared to lower quality offerings. The Apple box is nice from a user experience standpoint but the quality is not there. Let's hope that VUDU takes off.

I was interested to find out that Vudu was interested in OEMing their service. Placing their service on media center boxes (i.e. Escient, Crestron, etc.) or on boxes like the Roku could be a good move.
post #311 of 1887
I'd surely like to see Vudu integrated into 2009 flat panels but I guess we have to wait until 2010?
post #312 of 1887
Makes me a little nervous since I just got my vudu box and like it; however, I am disappointed that I cannot use the 1080p/24 since my tv only supports 1080p/60.

The selling points for me were 1080p, lots of HD titles in 1080p and that it was on sale for 99 dollars. My 30 day trial period is almost up, I'm still on the fence, and this news is making me think a little harder...
post #313 of 1887
In a normal economy there would be nothing to worry about. However in this economy, small companies trying to introduce high value products that charge a premium are going to struggle a bit. This is why the netflix all you can eat service for physical disks and poor quality downloads seems to be a winning value proposition for a lot of people and why their profits are up even in a down time.

That being said - $99 is still a great deal for a service such as this.
post #314 of 1887
I agree $99 is not a big deal. I already saved the purchase of a quite a few discs and 3 of them on blu.

If you want to put losing money ($99) in perspective, take a look at your 401k or home value.
post #315 of 1887
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Originally Posted by lukester View Post

Makes me a little nervous since I just got my vudu box and like it; however, I am disappointed that I cannot use the 1080p/24 since my tv only supports 1080p/60.

The selling points for me were 1080p, lots of HD titles in 1080p and that it was on sale for 99 dollars. My 30 day trial period is almost up, I'm still on the fence, and this news is making me think a little harder...

If you don't want it I'll buy it off you got $115 which should cover the amount you paid plus tax and shipping to me. Let me know!

(I posted this an hour ago and my post disappeared?)
post #316 of 1887
I now notice Roku box is $99. I need to investigate this box relative to Vudu. Does anybody have both?

update: found this review

http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/19/d...ming-shootout/

Think I will pass for now.
post #317 of 1887
i dont think the roku box competes in quality but then the downloads are free - what do you expect for free
post #318 of 1887
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Originally Posted by Richard Tywoniak View Post

i dont think the roku box competes in quality but then the downloads are free - what do you expect for free

I don't know. I would guess some day they start offering HD movies and start charging. In the future it looks like Amazon and Netflix compete.

I am looking for an HDMI 1.3 capable box ... kind of hoping Vudu takes a step but with this weeks news ... I'm a bit doubtful. They best hook up with some partners and get their "sauce" into a few other avenues.
post #319 of 1887
I have the netflix box and just recently caught the sale on the vudu box. I love both and for different reasons. When it comes to sound and picture, Netflix cannot compare to vudu. But there are many oddball movies and tv series on Netflix that will NEVER be on vudu. In many cases, I put something in my netflix watch instantly que, watch 5 minutes of it and say;"No, thanks!" and it cost me nothing extra. In a few, rare, cases, I watch a few minutes of something, decide to give it time to develope and find a gem. I find shows that I never would have bothered wasting the effort of having it delivered on dvd to my door or would never have paid extra to rent. And the few times here and there that the box redownloads are hardly worth mentioning.

When I watch vudu, I expect perfection and get it. I plan a time to watch a movie and watch it in HDX format, with the sound up and the lights down.

I bought into HD-dvd early but have not bought a blu-ray player even after HD-dvd bit the dust. Right now, I pretty much feel like I don't need to- since I have vudu. That 99$ has saved me not only the price of the movies I would have bought but the hardware too.

On the flip side, netflix has saved me from buying dvd sets of tv shows I may or may not have liked but wanted to check out. I get the best of both worlds!
post #320 of 1887
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Originally Posted by Judy Y View Post

I have the netflix box and just recently caught the sale on the vudu box. I love both and for different reasons. When it comes to sound and picture, Netflix cannot compare to vudu. But there are many oddball movies and tv series on Netflix that will NEVER be on vudu. In many cases, I put something in my netflix watch instantly que, watch 5 minutes of it and say;"No, thanks!" and it cost me nothing extra. In a few, rare, cases, I watch a few minutes of something, decide to give it time to develope and find a gem. I find shows that I never would have bothered wasting the effort of having it delivered on dvd to my door or would never have paid extra to rent. And the few times here and there that the box redownloads are hardly worth mentioning.

When I watch vudu, I expect perfection and get it. I plan a time to watch a movie and watch it in HDX format, with the sound up and the lights down.

I bought into HD-dvd early but have not bought a blu-ray player even after HD-dvd bit the dust. Right now, I pretty much feel like I don't need to- since I have vudu. That 99$ has saved me not only the price of the movies I would have bought but the hardware too.

On the flip side, netflix has saved me from buying dvd sets of tv shows I may or may not have liked but wanted to check out. I get the best of both worlds!

This sums it up perfectly for me as well. I see them much more complimentary than competitive.

Great post.
post #321 of 1887
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Originally Posted by larrimore View Post

This sums it up perfectly for me as well. I see them much more complimentary than competitive.

Ya think?!

With Netflix VOD being added to BD players it should be pretty obvious that they are complimentary. I use both physical media and Netflix VOD (plus streaming video from network sites), and the option to do both is SWEET!
post #322 of 1887
Another example of "denial of content" .... sooner or later we will have all movies DL on date of DVD release. Of course "date of DVD release" may become and out of fashion term too.

Open Season 2 releases today and it is a buy SD option only on Vudu for $19.99. I reserved it via Red Box for $0.99 on SD.

I checked PSNetwork online but they only "feature" movies and don't show what is available for DL rent. I wonder if it is DL rent on PSN? I do have some $$ on my PSN account but haven't been there in 5 weeks.
post #323 of 1887
Considering OS2 is Sony...I am not shocked by this.
post #324 of 1887
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD View Post

Considering OS2 is Sony...I am not shocked by this.

Sony PHE, Disney and Lionsgate do pretty much the same thing. All Disney Pirates of the Caribbean series and Cars are not there. Wall-E is however.

Iron Man, Batman, Appalosa, Max Payne, Burn after Reading and other newer worthwhile titles are there pretty fast.

Let's see how long SPHE and Disney hold out ... I would guess until DVD and blu-ray is milked as best they can. I bet Disney isn't keen on DL's ... they can hardly have 8 previews and 2 commercials before the feature on a DL.
post #325 of 1887
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Originally Posted by larrimore View Post

I added my new box and the credit was instantaneous, so if anyone else is still on the fence it works like a charm.

This is good until jan 31, right? If so, I plan to make a trip to BB this evening and pick one up.

cjett
post #326 of 1887
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Originally Posted by cjett View Post

This is good until jan 31, right? If so, I plan to make a trip to BB this evening and pick one up.

cjett

AFAIK the deal is still valid until Saturday night - let us know if it works!
post #327 of 1887
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Originally Posted by kevivoe View Post

Another example of "denial of content" .... sooner or later we will have all movies DL on date of DVD release. Of course "date of DVD release" may become and out of fashion term too.

Open Season 2 releases today and it is a buy SD option only on Vudu for $19.99. I reserved it via Red Box for $0.99 on SD.

I checked PSNetwork online but they only "feature" movies and don't show what is available for DL rent. I wonder if it is DL rent on PSN? I do have some $$ on my PSN account but haven't been there in 5 weeks.

Typically there is a 30 day delay on renting. So in 30 days it should be available to rent in SD, HD, and possibly HDX. This is nothing new. But it is available to download day and date with the DVD. But only for purchase. And this also is nothing new.
post #328 of 1887
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Originally Posted by PSound View Post

Ya think?!

With Netflix VOD being added to BD players it should be pretty obvious that they are complimentary. I use both physical media and Netflix VOD (plus streaming video from network sites), and the option to do both is SWEET!

That does bring up a point. I am a fairly new owner of Vudu (Christmas) and after a month I can see that Vudu might be a threat to Blu Ray in the long term although as you say, Netflix is really not.

If Vudu took HDX up to Dolby Digital+, then the only difference I can see (better audio codecs) is gone, although you can certainly argue that DD+ is not really hi-rez. I, for one, have already cut my Blu Ray purchases and I am hardly renting BD from Netflix as I know many new releases will be "long wait". I just get it from Vudu when I can.
post #329 of 1887
Naw, this box, however great hdx movies might display, is geared toward the rental market only.
BD is a collectors market. I'm not even sure if this is a threat to the dvd market in that I can purchase a dvd w/ extras for less than I can buy it here. I also know I can pop the dvd in the player 3 years from now and it will play.
Dropping $300 for a player to a company that might not be here in 6 months has no appeal as I don't need another paper weight. At $25 I might try it.
Vudu really appears to be a nice bridge from dvd to BD while new titles are added to the BD catalog. As BD players from the heavy hitters such as panasonic, sony, samsung, lg and software come down in price, machines like this will become marginalized.
post #330 of 1887
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Originally Posted by fpconvert View Post

... As BD players from the heavy hitters such as panasonic, sony, samsung, lg and software come down in price, machines like this will become marginalized....

For someone like me, who no longer sees the point in owning or collecting discs, I have a hard time believing a physical medium will be able to "marginalize" the convenience of choosing from 1000s of movies on a whim. If those BD players integrate a Vudu like service, then it's possible (netflix in its current state doesn't count - the quality and selection is garbage), but otherwise just the convenience factor will allow a service like this to survive to some degree, whether it's vudu or someone else.

bald

edit: as I re-read your post, I see you may have meant the Vudu set-top-box may not survive - you are probably right. Dedicated set-top-boxes are probably not going to be around for long.
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