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post #2311 of 2418
Owners -

are you guys still using this Blu-Ray player or have you upgraded to another ?
post #2312 of 2418
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Originally Posted by JA Fant View Post

Owners -

are you guys still using this Blu-Ray player or have you upgraded to another ?

Still using it and not problems. I bought it for use with my NAD T763 (Pre-HDMI). Later I bought NAD t775hd with hdmi and Audyssey. Used hdmi output instead of analog on s5000. Felt a little guilty for spending $350 on s5000 and using only hdmi.

Well, my NAD t775hd has a problem and has been at the shop for almost 2 months. I pulled out my NAD t763 again and I am glad I have my multi channel analog. Sounds great and am wondering why I even bought the newer NAD. Impulse purchase I guess!
post #2313 of 2418
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Originally Posted by JA Fant View Post

Owners -

are you guys still using this Blu-Ray player or have you upgraded to another ?

I don't use it as frequently as I used to, but it will remain in my setup. It and my Denon DVD-5910CI reminds me of what flagship use to represent.smile.gif
post #2314 of 2418
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Originally Posted by JA Fant View Post

Owners -

are you guys still using this Blu-Ray player or have you upgraded to another ?

It is still my primary player, and will be for the foreseeable future. I have no use for streaming, 3D, etc... just a rock solid player that has played everything I have thrown at it perfectly, which this one has. It is also the last of a breed, in a world where the "high end" players typically weigh less than the keyboard I am typing this on. Build engineering-wise, I would place this head to head with any current player, at any price point.
post #2315 of 2418
I have owned a Sony 5000ES since December 2009',
having first owned a Sony BDP300,and still think the
5000ES is top of the bill.
It has never let me down,and plays everything I care to
throw at it,even old,scratched DVD discs,bought at jumble
sales for 1 Euro.
Today,one can buy Bly-Ray players for 200Euros,or even less,
but,like cars,a cheap make cannot compete with,let,s say,a
Mercedes!
Likewise with the 5000ES machine,you pay for the quality you get.
It doesn,t do 3D,it has not internet connections,other than for
upgrades,but can still hold its own picturewise,and that with ease.
It is,furthermore,built like a tank,and I hope mine will last for ages.
I also own a CDP303 Cd player,which closely resembles a 5000ES,
it too,is built like a tank,weighs nearly 16kgs,and continues to play
CSs like one.
I hope my 5000ES will last for a good many more years to come,
and wish all other owners luck with theirs.

FBartling.theNetherlands.
post #2316 of 2418
I agree it is a flagship product. Mine is for sale, reluctantly.
post #2317 of 2418
Thanks! for sharing all.

dubusduck -why are you selling? which player are you buying/upgrading?
post #2318 of 2418
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Originally Posted by JA Fant View Post

Owners -

are you guys still using this Blu-Ray player or have you upgraded to another ?

Still use my S5000ES as my Blu Ray player. Fantastic unit. Rock solid and reliable. They don't make them like this anymore. (shame on you Sony!!!!)
post #2319 of 2418
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Originally Posted by JA Fant View Post

Thanks! for sharing all.

dubusduck -why are you selling? which player are you buying/upgrading?

I am selling because I have a baby on the way and I want SACD capability. I got rid of my two channel rig because I stopped listening to CDs and found myself watching blurays exclusively so I got a surround sound rig to get the full experience. As a recovering audiophile, I found that I could get near audiophile quality sound with wisely chosen mid fi components without the bucket loads of cash needed and surround sound to boot! However, I am finding that I am starting to enjoy classical music and listen to it more often. I own a number of classical SACDs and SACD can sound way better than CD. I also want to expose my baby to classical music so he or she will become a vonderkind smile.gif

I planned on keeping the Sony for a back up bluray player and CD playback via its analog outputs because it really is a good analog player and well mastered CDs sound very good on it. I wanted to get an Oppo 95 or 105 for primary bluray and sacd play back duties, but frankly, with a baby on the way, I need to re-evaluate the disposable income I can allocate to my hobby. While I want a flagship player like the Oppo 95 or 105, I can buy a lot of baby stuff for that kind of change. I owned a Sony BDP S790 for a short time hoping to get superb video and SACD performance on the cheap which would allow me to keep the BDP S5000ES. While the BDP S790 is a superb bluray video player for the money (I really like Sony's HD reality creator), the audio is only OK, and the DVD upscaling is better with the BDP 5000ES than the BDP S790. In looking for a new do it all bluray player, I'm reminded constantly that the BDP S500ES can produce a really stunning image. However, I want SACD playback capability and the Oppo 103 is really the only game in town in my opinion because of its SACD capability. I also want 3D capability and need twin HDMI outputs as my receiver is not 3D capable. Plus, I have a gift card and some BB reward zone certificates I can use to buy the Oppo 103 at a Magnolia store. If I sell my 5000ES, not bites yet, I know I will miss the picture it can produce. I don't think the Oppo can match the video quality of the 5000ES, but I am willing to trade that for SACD capability. I view the Oppo 103 as a step down product from the 5000ES, but I have to admit the Oppo has pretty good build quality and if the SACD is good, I can live with a baby brother to the 5000ES so to speak with respect to video and build quality.
post #2320 of 2418
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Originally Posted by dubusduck View Post

I am selling because I have a baby on the way and I want SACD capability. I got rid of my two channel rig because I stopped listening to CDs and found myself watching blurays exclusively so I got a surround sound rig to get the full experience. As a recovering audiophile, I found that I could get near audiophile quality sound with wisely chosen mid fi components without the bucket loads of cash needed and surround sound to boot! However, I am finding that I am starting to enjoy classical music and listen to it more often. I own a number of classical SACDs and SACD can sound way better than CD. I also want to expose my baby to classical music so he or she will become a vonderkind smile.gif

I planned on keeping the Sony for a back up bluray player and CD playback via its analog outputs because it really is a good analog player and well mastered CDs sound very good on it. I wanted to get an Oppo 95 or 105 for primary bluray and sacd play back duties, but frankly, with a baby on the way, I need to re-evaluate the disposable income I can allocate to my hobby. While I want a flagship player like the Oppo 95 or 105, I can buy a lot of baby stuff for that kind of change. I owned a Sony BDP S790 for a short time hoping to get superb video and SACD performance on the cheap which would allow me to keep the BDP S5000ES. While the BDP S790 is a superb bluray video player for the money (I really like Sony's HD reality creator), the audio is only OK, and the DVD upscaling is better with the BDP 5000ES than the BDP S790. In looking for a new do it all bluray player, I'm reminded constantly that the BDP S500ES can produce a really stunning image. However, I want SACD playback capability and the Oppo 103 is really the only game in town in my opinion because of its SACD capability. I also want 3D capability and need twin HDMI outputs as my receiver is not 3D capable. Plus, I have a gift card and some BB reward zone certificates I can use to buy the Oppo 103 at a Magnolia store. If I sell my 5000ES, not bites yet, I know I will miss the picture it can produce. I don't think the Oppo can match the video quality of the 5000ES, but I am willing to trade that for SACD capability. I view the Oppo 103 as a step down product from the 5000ES, but I have to admit the Oppo has pretty good build quality and if the SACD is good, I can live with a baby brother to the 5000ES so to speak with respect to video and build quality.

The Oppo put's out a reference quality video, but you may still prefer the Sony. The Sony picture is a little hotter than the Oppo, but Sony seems to do this with most of its better players. I say this as a current owner of the BDP-S5000ES, BDP-S790 (bedroom) and a former owner of a BDP-S1000ES (returned after 2 weeks of ownership). Also, the analog audio is quite good (in my opinion) in the BDP-103 given its price point. I've used the analog out of my BDP-S5000ES very sparingly as I preferred some of the my other options for 2 channel analog.

Good look in your quest and good health to mother and your future arrival.
post #2321 of 2418
sony badly need to replace this flagship with a new one that builds in sacd playback just like their original ps3 did. cant be that hard. plus add on balanced outputs just like on the 5400es and you wouldnt bother with an oppo. the 5000es is a beauty but left behind a tad. time for an upgrade smile.gif
post #2322 of 2418
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Originally Posted by alebonau View Post

sony badly need to replace this flagship with a new one that builds in sacd playback just like their original ps3 did. cant be that hard. plus add on balanced outputs just like on the 5400es and you wouldnt bother with an oppo. the 5000es is a beauty but left behind a tad. time for an upgrade smile.gif

What about DVD-A, FLAC, Apple Lossless, etc.? I personally wouldn't consider it without the unit being "Universal" at a minimum for shiny discs.biggrin.gif I have no hands on experience with the 5400ES and the consensus amongst owners is that it is a fine player, but I do have hands on experience with the S5000ES and presently it is my third choice for CD playback. I just prefer the analog implementation of the Oppo and Denon over the Sony.smile.gif Now that could change if Sony stepped up with a new offering.biggrin.gif
post #2323 of 2418
sony will never do dvd-a, it was the competing format. things like flac who knows. media players are a dime a dozen and cheap as chips. its hard for disc players to continually evolve and keep up with their capabilities especially when its so cheap to just buy a $100 media player and add in the mix.

what I dont understand is even the cheap sony players now have sacd replay. well the ps3 had from day one so a real pity a flagship player like the 5000es cant have the same.

sony would really clear the deck on high end bd players with a 6000es. sacd capable blu-ray player with high end xlr balanced outs...all to support the new blu-ray audio format smile.gif
post #2324 of 2418
Does anyone has had any trouble playing the newest Universal Pictures movies on the 5000es?
Mine wouldn't read Oblivion and The Host, it'll just "freeze" reading the discs, and I thought it was the discs at firs but when I tried playing the movies on the three year old samsung bdc5500c they would play flawlessly, it is the first time this happens to the player, all movies I had thrown at it would play without issues.

Somebody else?
post #2325 of 2418
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Originally Posted by CDMM View Post

Does anyone has had any trouble playing the newest Universal Pictures movies on the 5000es?
Mine wouldn't read Oblivion and The Host, it'll just "freeze" reading the discs, and I thought it was the discs at firs but when I tried playing the movies on the three year old samsung bdc5500c they would play flawlessly, it is the first time this happens to the player, all movies I had thrown at it would play without issues.

Somebody else?

Nope. Oblivion plays on mine. Try ejecting the disc and then reloading.
post #2326 of 2418
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Originally Posted by CDMM View Post

Does anyone has had any trouble playing the newest Universal Pictures movies on the 5000es?
Mine wouldn't read Oblivion and The Host, it'll just "freeze" reading the discs, and I thought it was the discs at firs but when I tried playing the movies on the three year old samsung bdc5500c they would play flawlessly, it is the first time this happens to the player, all movies I had thrown at it would play without issues.

Somebody else?

Played with no problems at all in mine as well.
Make sure you have the latest update. I can not remember the version but look for it in Sony's support page.
post #2327 of 2418
I remember when loading-up my new Apocalypse Now disc that it took FOREVER to light-up; I thought I had a disc-or-player problem. At least it sure FELT like "forever" though it may only have been a minute or three. Maybe CDMM you weren't patient enough?
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post #2329 of 2418
Oblivion played just fine on my S5000ES using firmware 026.
post #2330 of 2418
Only for North America has the Sony BDP-S5000ES Blu-ray player firmware version 026. The rest of the world has firmware version 024. Sony will Improve BD-ROM playability when needed for new BD titles.

With the release of 4K mastered Blu-ray discs with bit rates of 40 Mbps to more than 54 Mbps the firmware of the current Blu-ray players has to be adjusted to meet the new demands for better picture quality.

I have standard BDs with bitrates more than 60 Mbps playing on the BDP-S390 with the latest firmware version M11.R.0493 in Europe. Well done Sony!

My BDP-S5000ES player with the latest firmware version 024 is limited to 40 Mbps. Time for a firmware update to keep up with the pace Sony!
Edited by johanverschuren - 11/21/13 at 12:55am
post #2331 of 2418
The Sony 4K Blu-ray discs don't go over 40mbps (and average about 35mbps).
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US Mastered in 4K
July 17th 2013 07:23:39 PM

Region A Region B Region C

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00001.MPLS
Length: 1:47:27.441 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 34.804.758.528 bytes
Total Bitrate: 43,19 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description


MPEG-4 AVC Video 34816 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description



DTS-HD Master Audio English 2776 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2776 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / Dolby Surround
DTS-HD Master Audio French 2806 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2806 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description



Presentation Graphics English 55,538 kbps
Presentation Graphics English 60,174 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 43,779 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 50,481 kbps

bitrate:

post #2333 of 2418
I contacted the Sony Support Team in Europe and they confirm that the BDP-S5000ES is not ready for 4K Mastered blu-ray discs. New models from Sony have already been updated with new firmware to be compatible with the 4K Mastered blu-ray discs. I hope that Sony will also come with a firmware update for the older models such as the BDP-S5000ES player. The BDP-S5000ES supports deep color already.
post #2334 of 2418
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Originally Posted by johanverschuren View Post

With the release of 4K mastered Blu-ray discs with bit rates of 40Mbps to 54 Mbps the firmware of the current Blu-ray players has to be adjusted because the current specification for BD is a maximum of 40 Mbps.

Can someone here with one of the new 4K discs confirm or deny if there are any issues with playback?
post #2335 of 2418
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Originally Posted by Laserfan View Post

Can someone here with one of the new 4K discs confirm or deny if there are any issues with playback?

I have the Total Recall 4K disc and it plays without any issues whatsoever.
post #2336 of 2418
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Originally Posted by johanverschuren View Post

I contacted the Sony Support Team in Europe and they confirm that the BDP-S5000ES is not ready for 4K Mastered blu-ray discs. New models from Sony have already been updated with new firmware to be compatible with the 4K Mastered blu-ray discs. I hope that Sony will also come with a firmware update for the older models such as the BDP-S5000ES player. The BDP-S5000ES supports deep color already.

I wouldn't worry about an update for the 5000ES. I played the 4K total recall on the 5000ES, Sony 790, and Oppo 103. No difference.
post #2337 of 2418
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Originally Posted by dubusduck View Post

I wouldn't worry about an update for the 5000ES. I played the 4K total recall on the 5000ES, Sony 790, and Oppo 103. No difference.

That's because none of those players supports trilumous
post #2338 of 2418
I have also a BDP-S390 region B player and I have standard BDs that have bitrates higher than 40 Mbps and with the latest firmware update to version M11.R.0493, date 02/10/2013, the BDP-S390 is ready for 4K Mastered BDs.

Benefits and improvements: BD-ROM playability improvement.

The BDP-S5000ES player is set to a maximum bitrate of 40 Mbps with the latest firmware release 024 in Europe. Of course you can use 4K Mastered BDs but you will not get the best performance. The Sony Support Team in Europe cannot confirm that there will be a firmware update for the BDP-S5000ES player to accommodate the higher bitrates with 4K Mastered BDs. We have to wait what Sony Japan will do to accommodate older players for 4K Mastered BDs.

The BDP-S5000ES supports deep color and is ready for xvYCC or Extended-gamut YCC and was proposed by Sony. The BDP-S5000ES player also incorporates the Marvell 88DE2710 Video Processor.

http://www.marvell.com/products/digitalentertainment/marvell_88de2710_sony_bdp-s5000es_blu-ray/release/1305/
Edited by johanverschuren - 11/7/13 at 1:44am
post #2339 of 2418
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

That's because none of those players supports trilumous

Sony's Triluminos LED backlighting system is supported by the BDP-Sx100 blu-ray players and only the X9 and W9 TVs have Triluminos LED backlighting.

I have standard BDs with bitrates up to 60 Mbps playing on the BDP-S390. Well done Sony!

My BDP-S5000ES player is limited to 40 Mbps. Time for a firmware update to keep up with the pace.
Edited by johanverschuren - 11/19/13 at 4:40pm
post #2340 of 2418
The BDP-S5000ES is not able to play DVDs with an audio channel 2.0 Dolby Digital at 96 Kbps. When BDP-S5000ES player reads the audio track of the DVD the playback stops. I have also a BDP-S390 player and this device can play DVDs with an audio channel 2.0 Dolby Digital at 96 Kbps. Anyone who has also experience with this fault?

The firmware of the BDP-S5000ES player needs adjustments to enhance compatibility for BD and DVD-ROM.
Edited by johanverschuren - 12/3/13 at 2:23pm
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