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I recently upgraded all my components to HD and gave my little brother and his family my old 32" Sony CRT. Wouldn't you know it, the darn thing apparently went haywire the other day (channels changing, onscreen menu flashing on/off), so now they're in the market for a new tv. They're not interested in going HD yet, but do want a flat screen. So my question is, what tv is going to display the best standard def image? I don't think it matters if it's plasma or lcd. I think the space they have is no bigger than 50" across, so I was thinking of something between 40 - 50" might be nice. They don't have any game consoles, but they do watch dvds. Under a $1000 would be nice too.

thanks in advance
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I recently upgraded all my components to HD and gave my little brother and his family my old 32" Sony CRT. Wouldn't you know it, the darn thing apparently went haywire the other day (channels changing, onscreen menu flashing on/off), so now they're in the market for a new tv. They're not interested in going HD yet, but do want a flat screen. So my question is, what tv is going to display the best standard def image? I don't think it matters if it's plasma or lcd. I think the space they have is no bigger than 50" across, so I was thinking of something between 40 - 50" might be nice. They don't have any game consoles, but they do watch dvds. Under a $1000 would be nice too.

The entry level 42" Panasonic plasmas will display SD better than even the best LCD TVs. The "720p" models are TH-42PX80U and the Costco version is TH-C42HD18, and the 1080p models are TH-42PZ80U, TH-42PZ85U, and the Costco version is TH-C42FD18. I watch a lot of SD and it looks a little better on my 1080p Panny than it does on my "720p" Panny, but it still looks great on the "720p" model.
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Thanks Randy. The reviews I've read so far on the Panasonics are very encouraging. I had dropped by Best Buy this afternoon (before seeing your reply), and the only guy back there was the Sony rep. Guess what he was pushing? Yup, the Sony's with the new "Bravia" technology. Anyway, the problem with viewing displays at the store is they're never set up properly. They send a single movie or tv station split between multiple televisions, so you don't get a clear idea of how good the image is. Plus, I've heard they will calibrate the more expensive sets to look better so they can sell them (makes sense).

But back to the sets you mentioned. I told my bro about them, and he wasn't sure he wanted a plasma because he thinks they use a lot more power than the LCDs. I'm not sure on that, further research will be needed. But when you start getting about a certain screen size, the LCDs become more expensive than the plasmas. With the LCDs you need to be aware of judder (or jutter) and the higher end models can take care of that but again cost more (I have the Samsung A650, which has been great but wasn't cheap).

The 720p set is about $100 less than the 1080p at Amazon. I'd be inclined to the 1080p, but I'm not sure my brother and his people would notice the difference. But they do watch a lot of DVDs, and I'd prefer they have the best resolution they can get. And if they do switch to HD programming, I want the best resolution for that too.
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I don't get it when people spend thousands of dollars on a TV and get hung up on electricity cost that is unlikely more than $50 difference per year. Sure plasmas use more energy as compared to LCDs but your annual cost difference is nominal. CNET compaed the annual cost of various types and sizes of TVs:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6475_7-...content;rb_mtx
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That's where research comes in. I'm not hung up electricity cost (unless it's through the roof). The layman only hears "uses more electricity," from the salesmen, or only reads "more electricity" in an article.

People also worry about heat and burn in. And again if you don't do the research, you won't learn those aren't really problems anymore (if you buy decent equipment).

I love sites like these, because there are so many people here that know far more than I ever will. And if they don't have an answer, often they can point me to somewhere that does. I never would've found that link you posted, even though I read reviews on Cnet all the time.

Thanks
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What Randy said.
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As you can see by the exerpt below from a store called "Crutchfield", who actually ran a diognostic check test on the plasma model tv i bought, and compared it to a simular size lcd tv, the plasma used less energy than the lcd. Newer model plasmas are more energy efficient. It's only when you get above 50 inches that they start to really need alot of wattage energy (watts).





There are a lot of people still parroting the old "plasma uses way more electricity than lcds" myth.
Plasmas maximum consumption is rated higher but in real world use plasmas actually use less than half the rated maximum. LCDs power consumption is rated lower but they actually use almost all of it.

Here is a revealing comparison between 2 1080p 42" models.

Sony KDL-42V4100
42" BRAVIA® V-Series 1080p LCD HDTV
Power Consumption
Power On (Manufacturer) 240 in use watts
Standby (Manufacturer) 0.10 watts

Power On (Crutchfield-tested) 238.73 watts
Standby (Crutchfield-tested) 0.05 watts
Estimated Cost per Month (Crutchfield-tested) $4.36



Panasonic TH-42PZ80U
42" VIERA® 1080p plasma HDTV
Power On (Manufacturer) 573 maximum watts
Standby (Manufacturer) 0.20 watts

Power On (Crutchfield-tested) 169.53 watts
Standby (Crutchfield-tested) 0.09 watts
Estimated Cost per Month (Crutchfield-tested) $3.10
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