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post #8851 of 9288
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Originally Posted by uf20wop View Post

works great... i have no complaints. it's lightyears better than the comcast box

What's the least expensive way to get TiVo? What are we looking at total?
post #8852 of 9288
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Originally Posted by uf20wop View Post


works great... i have no complaints

it's lightyears better than the comcast box

pandora on tivo, schedule recordings from your phone/computer, season passes and better program searching

The U-verse DVR software does all this, BTW.
post #8853 of 9288
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Originally Posted by SoundsGood View Post

I'm with ya. I too have a long list of complaints -- and the list keeps growing.

I honestly wish we could go back to the old software.

There's another option, besides switching to companies. Awhile back, when I still had Comcast, I reported here that Comcast hired TiVo to make a DVR for both the SA (now Cisco) and Motorola boxes. At the time, they were rolling out the Motorola version. I guess if you wait a bit longer, they will begin rolling out the SA (Cisco) version.

As I recall, Comcast had started rolling out the new software that you all are now getting even before I had switched to U-verse (over a year ago) in other areas of the country. I am surprised it took so long for West Palm to get it and it's probably the same version they had when it was first being rolled out elsewhere in the country over a year ago, based on the reported bugs and lack of features I'm hearing here.

Based on Comcast's record for extremely slow rollout of new software, you'll probably be waiting a long, long time before the TiVo software option is roll-out for the West Palm area, and it will probably be the first buggy, feature-lacking version of that software, at best! The TiVo software will be an option for an additional $5/month.

Since I had U-verse, we had TWO major DVR software updates so far, with a third major update expected soon. This is in addition to other secondary software routinely pushed to out set-top boxes. Also, the U-verse set-top uses the Microsoft Media Room OS. Version 2.0 of Media Room has already been released to Bell Canada and should be being pushed to U-Verse subscribers soon. It adds a Facebook app and allows Windows Media Center PC's to access DVR recordings.

Over on AT&T's forum, people are complaining of the "slow" roll-out for software updates and additions nationally of a time period of several weeks. Seeing that Comcast's national rollout of sofware trickles in timescales of several months or years, I'm beginning to think U-verse subscribers who complain about several weeks as slow are, well, spoiled.
post #8854 of 9288
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Originally Posted by PeterAlt View Post

There's another option, besides switching to companies. Awhile back, when I still had Comcast, I reported here that Comcast hired TiVo to make a DVR for both the SA (now Cisco) and Motorola boxes. At the time, they were rolling out the Motorola version. I guess if you wait a bit longer, they will begin rolling out the SA (Cisco) version.

As I recall, Comcast had started rolling out the new software that you all are now getting even before I had switched to U-verse (over a year ago) in other areas of the country. I am surprised it took so long for West Palm to get it and it's probably the same version they had when it was first being rolled out elsewhere in the country over a year ago, based on the reported bugs and lack of features I'm hearing here.

Based on Comcast's record for extremely slow rollout of new software, you'll probably be waiting a long, long time before the TiVo software option is roll-out for the West Palm area, and it will probably be the first buggy, feature-lacking version of that software, at best! The TiVo software will be an option for an additional $5/month.

Since I had U-verse, we had TWO major DVR software updates so far, with a third major update expected soon. This is in addition to other secondary software routinely pushed to out set-top boxes. Also, the U-verse set-top uses the Microsoft Media Room OS. Version 2.0 of Media Room has already been released to Bell Canada and should be being pushed to U-Verse subscribers soon. It adds a Facebook app and allows Windows Media Center PC's to access DVR recordings.

Over on AT&T's forum, people are complaining of the "slow" roll-out for software updates and additions nationally of a time period of several weeks. Seeing that Comcast's national rollout of sofware trickles in timescales of several months or years, I'm beginning to think U-verse subscribers who complain about several weeks as slow are, well, spoiled.


And all you had to do to receive a quality picture was rewire your entire house. Great deal!
post #8855 of 9288
At this point I wouldn't mind trying Uverse, especially since my house is already Cat5 throughout. But -- unfortunately -- Uverse is STILL not available in my area.
post #8856 of 9288
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Originally Posted by TheGigaShadow View Post


And all you had to do to receive a quality picture was rewire your entire house. Great deal!

No, my house was already rewired with RG-6 coax by Comcast. My sister's U-verse installation in her home is where we had problems. They used the ancient twisted pair copper telephone wiring (worse way to go) mixed with twenty year old coax (second worse way to go). She had soooo many problems and after several tech calls and visits did nothing to help, I came over there with cat 5 cabling and unprofessionally replaced the wiring and everything was working as if she had fiber optics. She called and complained and demanded that someone come install the cat 5 wiring professionally (as my unprofessional wiring served its purpose of proving the problem was her wiring).

If you have a new home, or a new Comcast installation (or satellite), you probably will not need rewiring.
post #8857 of 9288
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Originally Posted by SoundsGood View Post

At this point I wouldn't mind trying Uverse, especially since my house is already Cat5 throughout. But -- unfortunately -- Uverse is STILL not available in my area.

Oh, man! You're ready! Just keep checking every couple of months.
post #8858 of 9288
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Originally Posted by charlie460 View Post

It's no secret that U-Verse HD is poor quality compared to almost any other service. The feeds are bitrate starved, and that's fact. It may look fine to most people, but the quality is certainly not better than Comcast or DirecTV/Dish.

They may have a nicer guide, but the quality of Comcast's and DirecTV's HD looks far better to me. (of course, I could use some more HD channels from Comcast...)

i'm sticking with comcast for now because of the picture quality but it's still annoying that it offers the least HD channels compared to all other types of providers..
post #8859 of 9288
I tend to disagree with your assumption that UV picture quality is poor. When I first got the service, the compression method was so bad that images routinely had dark shadows where they're no supposed to be. Over the past year, there were two major updates that overhauled the compression scheme. Today there are no noticeable differences between Comcast and UV as far as PQ is concerned. In fact, I would even say that UV PQ is better than Comcast's now, as the Comcast PQ on some frequencies on occasion breaks apart or blacks outs entirely.

If my word is not enough, if you want, I have an HD video capture card for my PC. I will record a sample and post it. I could also take a sample of the same channel and program with Comcast and post it too. Then, you can compare the PQ on each network to make your own judgement.
post #8860 of 9288
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Originally Posted by SoundsGood View Post

What's the least expensive way to get TiVo? What are we looking at total?

probably a refurb from tivo.

https://www3.tivo.com/store/clearanc...ed-premiere.do

$99 for the box + 12.95/month for DVR service from tivo

then you can cancel your comcast DVR for -15/month

i believe comcast will then charge you $3/month for HD service.

the tivo ends up being about $1-2/month more expensive than the comast dvr

if you can live with the $99 for the box i'd say it's definitely worth the money
post #8861 of 9288
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Originally Posted by uf20wop View Post
if you can live with the $99 for the box i'd say it's definitely worth the money
Yeah, that's not bad. Thanks.

Are there any other charges we might not be aware of? For example, it looks like a "cable card decoder" is required. Does Comcast charge a monthly fee for this? Installation fee? Any other hidden fees?

Also, are there ANY downsides or negatives to TiVo?

Oh, one more question: Any idea if there are any problems with using a Harmony One universal remote with TiVo?

Thanks again.
post #8862 of 9288
Sorry, just thought of another question...

Do we lose OnDemand if we go to TiVo?

My wife actually likes OnDemand (believe it or not) and uses it quite often... so I can't lose it.
post #8863 of 9288
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Originally Posted by SoundsGood View Post
Sorry, just thought of another question...

Do we lose OnDemand if we go to TiVo?
Yes.
post #8864 of 9288
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Originally Posted by charlie460 View Post
Yes.
Bummer. So much for that idea.
post #8865 of 9288
According to this news release, http://investor.tivo.com/phoenix.zht...261&highlight= , On Demand may be available to Tivo in the future with Comcast.

I'm actually thinking about Tivo now since this dumb software update is causing me constant DVR headaches. Had two recordings set at the same time but it decided not to record one even through I was sitting there watching the damn thing.

I didn't have one problem with the SARA software.
post #8866 of 9288
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Originally Posted by Panth1 View Post

I didn't have one problem with the SARA software.

Same here.
post #8867 of 9288
Only a very small problem...

Since the update: When I want to record something the box has to be "ON". ie if I am in the middle of recording and I want to shut down to go to bed, I get a notification that in order to continue recording, it must be left on.

Okay... But why doesn't it AUTOMATICALLY shut the box off when the recording is complete???
post #8868 of 9288
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Originally Posted by Caribwoy2000 View Post

Since the update: When I want to record something the box has to be "ON". ie if I am in the middle of recording and I want to shut down to go to bed, I get a notification that in order to continue recording, it must be left on.

Okay... But why doesn't it AUTOMATICALLY shut the box off when the recording is complete???

I've got the same problem. In my case it totally messed up my Harmony One remote (it would shut the box off instead of turning it on, which meant I had to manually push extra buttons to get the cable box back on).

I decided to just leave the cable box on all the time. Not ideal, but it's the best solution I can figure out.

Have I mentioned that I don't like this new guide?
post #8869 of 9288
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Originally Posted by PeterAlt View Post

I tend to disagree with your assumption that UV picture quality is poor. When I first got the service, the compression method was so bad that images routinely had dark shadows where they're no supposed to be. Over the past year, there were two major updates that overhauled the compression scheme. Today there are no noticeable differences between Comcast and UV as far as PQ is concerned. In fact, I would even say that UV PQ is better than Comcast's now, as the Comcast PQ on some frequencies on occasion breaks apart or blacks outs entirely.

If my word is not enough, if you want, I have an HD video capture card for my PC. I will record a sample and post it. I could also take a sample of the same channel and program with Comcast and post it too. Then, you can compare the PQ on each network to make your own judgement.

i would actually like to see that if u could
post #8870 of 9288
Has anyone figured out how to use the DVR Priority settings? I think I understand how it works, I just can't get it to cooperate.

The instructions say to use the Page Up and Page Down buttons to move the selected show up or down into a higher or lower priority. This works on the first "page", but once I scroll down to the next block of shows it doesn't work. At that point hitting the Page Up/Down button no longer moves a particular show -- instead it just jumps to the next page.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Better question: anyone know how to make it work properly?

Thanks!
post #8871 of 9288
I've only used TIVO for about a week, so I am no expert; but here goes.

Cost: $700 including a lifetime subscription. You save $90/year by turning in your 8300, but the TIVO is definitely more expensive.

Here's what I like -

A great program guide 2 weeks worth, very easy to use and manage. (even via IPad)

When zapping thru commercials, selecting "play" starts the playback a few seconds early making it easy to start close to the desired portion of the recording.

Ability to access the TIVO drive on your network for viewing or transcoding by computer.


Those are my top 3. The only negative for me is the awkward setup for toggling subtitles. There may be a fast way, but I haven't found it.
post #8872 of 9288
Reply to SoundsGood:

I think you have to press ok/select on the remote first to identify what program needs to be moved (at least that's how it works on my Motorola A28 guide), then page up/page down
post #8873 of 9288
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Originally Posted by the q View Post

I think you have to press ok/select on the remote first to identify what program needs to be moved (at least that's how it works on my Motorola A28 guide), then page up/page down

Nah, that just allows you to modify settings for that particular show.

But thanks anyway...
post #8874 of 9288
Analogs off here today in Jensen Beach, FL. Anyone else?
post #8875 of 9288
How can you tell if you have a Comcast box? Any new HD?
post #8876 of 9288
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Originally Posted by LRZNole View Post

How can you tell if you have a Comcast box? Any new HD?

by checking on a TV without a box. Nothing new yet, it just happened overnight last night. They also added an extra downstream channel for internet access.
post #8877 of 9288
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Originally Posted by SoundsGood View Post

I've got the same problem. In my case it totally messed up my Harmony One remote (it would shut the box off instead of turning it on, which meant I had to manually push extra buttons to get the cable box back on).

I decided to just leave the cable box on all the time. Not ideal, but it's the best solution I can figure out.


MY harmony is "ruined" as well

Doesnt know whether the dam box is off or on now...oh well back to

"did that fix the problem? ...yes...NO"
post #8878 of 9288
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Originally Posted by Caribwoy2000 View Post

Doesnt know whether the dam box is off or on now...oh well back to

"did that fix the problem? ...yes...NO"

You might wanna do what I did and just leave the box on all the time. Just go into Device Options / Changes and change the setting to "I want to leave this device on all the time" -- and you're set!
post #8879 of 9288
I have a Harmony remote and had no problems with the new software. I have the 1100 model. I made the remote learn various functions when i set it up which might be why.
post #8880 of 9288
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Originally Posted by SoundsGood View Post

You might wanna do what I did and just leave the box on all the time. Just go into Device Options / Changes and change the setting to "I want to leave this device on all the time" -- and you're set!

Since my box is in a cabinet with the Bluray player on top of it...leaving it on 24/7 would pretty much cook everything..
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