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Onkyo PR-SC886P Pre/Pro Official thread

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Since I got one on order, and the Integra 9.9 thread is underway, I figured I'd start one:

Onkyo PR-SC886P official website





AMPLIFIER:
# Channels
7
POWER (8ohms 20-20kHz 0.08%) /CH
N/A
POWER (8ohms 20-20kHz 0.05%) /CH
N/A
THX Certified
(Ultra2 Plus)
Continuous 6ohms Rated
N/A
Certified 4ohms performance
N/A
High Instantaneous Current Capability
N/A
Amplifier Frequency Response
N/A
S/N Ratio (LINE IN)
110dB
All Discrete Circuitry
Absolute Ground Plate
Dual PUSH-PULL Design
N/A
Independent Block Construction (Amp/Preprocessor)
Toroidal Transformer
Independent Power Supply
4
Optimum Gain Volume
-
Linear Optimum Gain Volume
Non-Scaling Configuration
Bi-amp Capability For Front
BTL Capability For Front
N/A

PROCESSING:
DOLBY Decoder
DD Plus, TrueHD
DTS Decoder
DTS-HD Master Audio
Neural Surround
Neural THX
THX Processing Mode
DSD Processing/Direct Mode
/
Direct
192K/24 Bit DACs
Burr Brown
VLSC
(ALL CH)
DSP Type / QTY
32 BIT / 3
Adjustable Crossover (Hz)
40/45/50/55/60/70/80/90/100/
110/120/130/150/200
Adjustable Crossover by Channel Pair
Accurate Speaker Distance Setting
0.2ft step
AV Sync Delay (by source)
250ms
Multi-Band Speaker EQ
15 Band

CONNECTIVITY:
Audio I/O
9 / 2
Balanced Audio Output
(7.1ch)
Balanced Audio Input
(2ch, assignable)
Phono Input
Digital Audio IN (OPT/COAX)
3 / 3
Digital Audio OUT (OPT/COAX)
1 / 0
Composite I/O
6 / 1
S-Video I/O
6 / 1
Front-Panel A/V
Front-Panel Optical
Component Video / Bandwidth
3 / 100MHz
HDMI I/O
4 / 2
HDMI Version
V1.3a Repeater
HDMI Bandwidth
1080p
HDMI Deep Color Capable (36bit)
Component Video Upconversion
Analog to HDMI Upconversion
480i to 480p Processing
(HQV Reon)
1080p Upscaling
(HQV Reon)
Noise Shaped Video (NSV)
Multi-Channel Input
7.1
Pre-Outs
7.1
Powered Zone2
N/A
Zone 2 Fixed/Variable line Out
Zone 2 Fixed/Variable Subwoofer Out
Zone 2 Tone/Balance Control
Zone 2 Max/Power On Volume
Zone 2 Composite Video Out
Zone 2 HD Component Video Out
Zone 3 Fixed/Variable line Out
Zone 3 Max/Power On Volume
Zone 3 Fixed/Variable Subwoofer Out
HDMI / Component video assignable to Tape/CD/Phono
iPod Ready
(DS-A2)
Radio Data System (RDS)
Internet Radio Capability via Ether (PlaysForSure)
-
Streaming Audio From PC via Ethernet (PlaysForSure)
-
Streaming Audio From USB memory (PlaysForSure)
-
Built-in HD Radio Tuner
XM Radio Ready
*
SIRIUS Radio Ready
*
Sat Radio Accessibility
Both
Simultaneous Access to Multiple Tuner Bands (Z1, Z2, Z3)

INTEGRATION ACCESS:
RS-232
IR Input/Output
2/1
Ethernet (E-control, AMX Duet)
RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI)
RI System Control
12V Trigger (w/adjustable delay)
Assignable (x3)

MISC.
Pre-Pro/Learning Remote
/
Back-Lit Remote
Color-Coded Speaker Terminals
N/A
Auto Speaker Calibration w/ Mic.
(Audyssey MultEQ XT)
GUI for Setup Menu
(advanced)
Input Name Edit
Setup Store/Recall function
Permanent Memory Storage
Solid Aluminum Front
Detachable AC Cord
Rack Mount Kit Available
IRK-175-4A
Warranty
2 YEARS
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Where did you order it?
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Is there a wait or are they readily available?

Same differences with 9.9 as 885 had with 9.8?
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Originally Posted by Mark Lem View Post

Is there a wait or are they readily available?

Same differences with 9.9 as 885 had with 9.8?

yes, it is the same exact thing as the 9.9, just a different face.

what I find puzzling this time around, is that the Onkyo is now $50 MORE than the integra, while still having 1 year less warranty....not sure what the deal is there.
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I've put an order in for one as well. The two places I know of that are taking orders are:

ggvideo.com - called their 1800 number today and got it drop shipped directly to my house - should have it next Monday most likely.

rockdreamselectronics.com - very prompt to return email but they were significantly higher (+$250) than ggvideo although still below msrp (msrp is $2,050).

Eiki International are now selling them to dealers so they should be available anywhere Onkyo Pro's are carried.
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Sherv, does this mean the end of the Proceed??
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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post

Sherv, does this mean the end of the Proceed??

unfortunately yes...it is in a pending sale. I just dont use it enough, nor do I get to listen to music that much anymore, to make good use of it. Most of my use nowdays is movies/TV with the family, so i need something that does that well.

I'm gonna miss it though...it was a marvelous piece!
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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post

unfortunately yes...it is in a pending sale. I just dont use it enough, nor do I get to listen to music that much anymore, to make good use of it. Most of my use nowdays is movies/TV with the family, so i need something that does that well.

I'm gonna miss it though...it was a marvelous piece!

Wow, I know how highly you regarded it.

I use the 9.8 for my HT duty and it is very good. I would recommend using something besides it for any 2 channel listening though.
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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post

Wow, I know how highly you regarded it.

I use the 9.8 for my HT duty and it is very good. I would recommend using something besides it for any 2 channel listening though.

yeah...i'm gonna do a 2 channel preamp and use it in ht bypass mode
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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post

yeah...i'm gonna do a 2 channel preamp and use it in ht bypass mode

sounds familiar

When do you expect to have yours? Is there any particular reason you went with the 886? I know where a couple of 9.9's are in Florida if you need any help.
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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post

sounds familiar

When do you expect to have yours? Is there any particular reason you went with the 886? I know where a couple of 9.9's are in Florida if you need any help.

price really...i was able to get the 886 at an unreal price, whereas the best I could find the 9.9 was ~$1650. If you know something much cheaper, please PM me
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To me it looks like a TX-NR906 sans the amps and added balanced outs (useless and can even be a disadvantage on <12' runs) and rack mount ears. Can someone point out the differences? Can't believe Onkyo doesn't add at least 1 more HDMI input.

EDIT: I see it has 3 zone's instead of just 2 (means nothing to me though).
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Originally Posted by William View Post

To me it looks like a TX-NR906 sans the amps and added balanced outs (useless and can even be a disadvantage on <12' runs) and rack mount ears. Can someone point out the differences? Can't believe Onkyo doesn't add at least 1 more HDMI input.

EDIT: I see it has 3 zone's instead of just 2 (means nothing to me though).

not exactly sure william, as I haven't owned one, but from the 9.8/885 owner's threads, it seems like there is more to the internals than just "features"....the consensus is that it sounds much better.

i'll have to wait and see
post #14 of 3236
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guys,
for those who pm'd me, try http://www.missionelectronics.com/
the contact there is Aaron Alt...tell him Sherv sent you. you can discuss price with him, but he is very competitive to say the least
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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post

guys,
for those who pm'd me, try http://www.missionelectronics.com/
the contact there is Aaron Alt...tell him Sherv sent you. you can discuss price with him, but he is very competitive to say the least

I'm sure you checked them out, but I don't see a reference to Onkyo Pro on their website...are they authorized dealer?

Thanks in advance...
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yeah, I've checked them out and called onkyo...they are authorized. Apparently Onkyo/integra still has an incomplete list of all their vendors on the site, but supposedly they will upgrade soon.

ps- keep in mind, this is onkyo PRO division, not consumer. But you can confirm with Mission Electronics directly if you like
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Can the 886 pass the video untouched without affecting black or white levels.
I have heard this is a problem with the 886?

- Rich
post #18 of 3236
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sheesh....onkyo/integra's customer reps are sometimes clueless...had to spell it out to him on the importance of having access to the manual online!

oh well, hopefully it will be up soon
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I will be posting my impressions/review of the 886 hopefully by this weekend. And there is not any issues of passing video thru it. The black and white levels are perfectly kept intact. More to come...
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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post

sheesh....onkyo/integra's customer reps are sometimes clueless...had to spell it out to him on the importance of having access to the manual online!

oh well, hopefully it will be up soon


http://www.onkyousa.com/download/own...t=Preamplifier
http://63.148.251.135/redirect_servi...886_En_web.pdf

Manuals are definitely helpful 8^). I've been researching all the info I can find on various forums trying to decide between the Onkyo pr-sc886p and the Denon 4308ci to replace my old Denon 2807. I have a d-sonic 2500-7 icepower amp on order it should be here this week and would mate perfectly with the Onkyo I think. I don't need the networking stuff in the Denon as I already have a Logitech Squeezebox for flac and internet radio playback.
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christ that was fast!

looks like I have a box waiting at home!
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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post

christ that was fast!

looks like I have a box waiting at home!

Please post a review after you have a chance to "play".

I'm trying to decide between this and the Integra 9.9...
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Originally Posted by dkuster View Post

Please post a review after you have a chance to "play".

I'm trying to decide between this and the Integra 9.9...

will do, but your choice between the 9.9 and the 886 is pretty much a tossup, as they are electrically identical! it should really boil down to which one "looks best" aesthetically in your setup (white letters vs green, etc), and which one you can get cheaper.

performance wise, they should be exactly identical.
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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post

will do, but your choice between the 9.9 and the 886 is pretty much a tossup, as they are electrically identical! it should really boil down to which one "looks best" aesthetically in your setup (white letters vs green, etc), and which one you can get cheaper.

performance wise, they should be exactly identical.

Hi Sherv,

In the The Official Integra DHC-9.9 Pre/Pro thread it was mentioned that the currently released 9.9s need a firmware upgrade in order to enable Audyssey MultEQ Pro calibration.

Do you know whether your 886 has the necessary firmware to support Audyssey MultEQ Pro calibration?

What firmware version did it ship with?

Thanks for your insights.

Larry
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hi larry....I'm still connecting things, and I still gotta fix my subwoofer amps, so it wont be until a couple of days before I power the system up and check it out.

I don't believe it has the Pro calibration firmware, as Onkyo said they are working on it, but I'll let you know soon
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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post

hi larry....I'm still connecting things, and I still gotta fix my subwoofer amps, so it wont be until a couple of days before I power the system up and check it out.

I don't believe it has the Pro calibration firmware, as Onkyo said they are working on it, but I'll let you know soon

Hi Sherv,

Thanks very much.

It seems that historically Onkyo hasn't exactly made these firmware upgrades "user friendly". Is the Audyssey MultEQ Pro feature of interest to you? If so, is this something that can be achieved with just a firmware CD, or is it more involved?

I recall reading some early horror stories where Onkyo initially was requiring owners to send their units to their corporate service center in New York.

Larry
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Well, the 886 is a dream to setup. It was 100x easier than my old B&K Reference 50 that the 886 replaced. The only part that took more than a few minutes was the audyssey setup just because it takes quite a while for it to do 8 sweeps. But, as far as hooking it up, going through the manual and making sure I didn't miss any settings, getting both my inputs (sat and ps3) configured... pure bliss.

I didn't get to turn the vol up past -40 since my wife was sleeping upstairs by the time I was all done- and I couldn't even stay in bed (5:46am as I'm typing this, got out of bed at 5am...). A few more hours and I'll be watching my Casino Royale bluray as close to reference as I can before the screws start spinning out of my drywall as a primer before seeing Quantam of Solace tonight!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryChanin View Post

It seems that historically Onkyo hasn't exactly made these firmware upgrades "user friendly". Is the Audyssey MultEQ Pro feature of interest to you? If so, is this something that can be achieved with just a firmware CD, or is it more involved?

I recall reading some early horror stories where Onkyo initially was requiring owners to send their units to their corporate service center in New York.

Larry

the upgrades are really not bad at all...pretty straight forward actually. I think people get a little scared of something going wrong, but they are not bad at all.

Audyssey Pro is not of interest to me...........yet! My main feature is that it helps in reign some of the anomalies in my room in the low frequency realm, and also the use of the Dynamic EQ (or THX loudness plus). Once I start playing with it, I'll have to determine if the pro calibration will help at all. Audyssey Pro is not a CD or anything like that...it involves a Kit plus license, which includes a calibrated Mic, PC software for your laptop, etc, etc.

If the 885/9.8 threads are any indication, there is no need to send the units to the service center for anything other than repairs.
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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post

the upgrades are really not bad at all...pretty straight forward actually. I think people get a little scared of something going wrong, but they are not bad at all.

Audyssey Pro is not of interest to me...........yet! My main feature is that it helps in reign some of the anomalies in my room in the low frequency realm, and also the use of the Dynamic EQ (or THX loudness plus). Once I start playing with it, I'll have to determine if the pro calibration will help at all. Audyssey Pro is not a CD or anything like that...it involves a Kit plus license, which includes a calibrated Mic, PC software for your laptop, etc, etc.

If the 885/9.8 threads are any indication, there is no need to send the units to the service center for anything other than repairs.

Hi Sherv,

I'm afraid you may have misunderstood my remarks. I know that to use Audyssey MultEQ Pro requires a Pro Kit, or calibration by an Audyssey installer. However, inorder to enable the Audyssey MultEQ Pro feature in the Onkyo Pro prepro requires a firmware upgrade. Since that upgrade can't be done via it's Ethernet connection, that leaves using a firmware CD, assuming Onkyo provides it, or sending the unit to Onkyo for service, something very inconvenient.

Larry
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