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post #1 of 141
11/10/08 at 9:07am
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After doing a search, I couldn't find any thread regarding this new 52" TV from Sharp. It looks to be a great set for the money.

If you have one, please comment.
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post #2 of 141
11/10/08 at 11:49am
Looked online and there are plenty of places that are willing to sell you one. According to the Sharp website this set has been out there only since September (that was the press anouncement) so they are probably just not enough of them out there to start a thread yet.

Sharp always introduces new models in the fall. Is it a decent set? Probably. You can buy one and start a thread on the model.
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post #3 of 141
11/10/08 at 3:38pm
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I think I'm gonna pull the trigger.
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post #4 of 141
11/11/08 at 6:07am
Post more on this model when you get it home and set up.
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post #5 of 141
11/11/08 at 7:44am
Just got my LN52A650 - wow! (and I haven't even tried BlueRay yet).
In the bag was a plastic panel - I cannot find anything that says what this is for nor anyplace it seems to fit. Can someone enlighten me?
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post #6 of 141
11/11/08 at 7:57am
Please tell me that Sharp fixed the banding problem that plagued their 3 previous models....


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Just got my LN52A650 - wow! (and I haven't even tried BlueRay yet).
In the bag was a plastic panel - I cannot find anything that says what this is for nor anyplace it seems to fit. Can someone enlighten me?

This is a thread about a Sharp model... I think you're in the wrong thread...
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post #7 of 141
11/11/08 at 8:52am
Initial reaction: Better than the D82, color has more pop, menus are better, 5 hdmi inputs!!!, easy side access buttons (wall mounted) a lot lighter/more fashionable. One con though; there is a triangular bright spot directly above sharp logo. It is not noticeable during normal viewing, only if you switch to an unused input. Doesn't appear to be there when an actual black screen is displayed, but will keep a lookout for it. No banding though!
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post #8 of 141
11/11/08 at 8:58am
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Please tell me that Sharp fixed the banding problem that plagued their 3 previous models....

From the Cnet review of the 46d85u

The bad: Uneven backlight uniformity produces banding; delivers lighter blacks than some LCDs; poor off-angle viewing characteristics; lacks dejudder video processing.

Performance
While it has its good points, the picture quality of the LC-46D85U was disappointing overall. Its black level performance was mediocre--even a bit worse than what we saw on the less expensive D65U--and while color accuracy was OK, we were miffed to see the same sort of uneven backlighting, or "banding," that plagued past Sharp LCDs.

Uniformity: As we mentioned at the top, the LC-46D85U sample we reviewed exhibited the same kind and intensity of uneven backlight "banding" we complained about on previous Sharp models. In dark to midbright full raster patterns from our Sencore signal generator (from zero to 70 IRE, or 70 percent of available light levels) we could see evidence of horizontal and vertical bands of varying brightness. They were most obvious in dark to middark areas, but visible in all of them. We noticed the bands in lots of program material, too, but they showed up best in flat fields like the sky behind an ascending space shuttle, for example, or the gray side of a passing subway car in Baraka.

It's puzzling that the bands appeared on the D85U sample we reviewed but not on the D65U right next to it in our comparison. We can only assume banding varies from model to model within Sharp's line, and, for some reason, we got one "bad" one and one "good" one. We don't think the difference in series has anything to do with it; in other words, we don't assume all 85U models have banding while all 65U models do not. The same goes for screen size. We asked Sharp to comment on the banding, and the company said it couldn't do so by the time this review posted. If we have an update, we'll modify this review accordingly.

When see from off-angle, the Sharp's screen washed out more quickly than either the Sonys or the Samsungs, and bluish discoloration set in that was again somewhat more noticeable than on the other LCD displays.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...rColumnArea1.1

Even with all the trouble I had with my sharps, I was hoping they would finnally beat the infamous "banding". Sharp USA customer care is second to none in my opinion.
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post #9 of 141
11/11/08 at 10:11am
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From the Cnet review of the 46d85u

The bad: Uneven backlight uniformity produces banding; delivers lighter blacks than some LCDs; poor off-angle viewing characteristics; lacks dejudder video processing.

Performance
While it has its good points, the picture quality of the LC-46D85U was disappointing overall. Its black level performance was mediocre--even a bit worse than what we saw on the less expensive D65U--and while color accuracy was OK, we were miffed to see the same sort of uneven backlighting, or "banding," that plagued past Sharp LCDs.

Uniformity: As we mentioned at the top, the LC-46D85U sample we reviewed exhibited the same kind and intensity of uneven backlight "banding" we complained about on previous Sharp models. In dark to midbright full raster patterns from our Sencore signal generator (from zero to 70 IRE, or 70 percent of available light levels) we could see evidence of horizontal and vertical bands of varying brightness. They were most obvious in dark to middark areas, but visible in all of them. We noticed the bands in lots of program material, too, but they showed up best in flat fields like the sky behind an ascending space shuttle, for example, or the gray side of a passing subway car in Baraka.

It's puzzling that the bands appeared on the D85U sample we reviewed but not on the D65U right next to it in our comparison. We can only assume banding varies from model to model within Sharp's line, and, for some reason, we got one "bad" one and one "good" one. We don't think the difference in series has anything to do with it; in other words, we don't assume all 85U models have banding while all 65U models do not. The same goes for screen size. We asked Sharp to comment on the banding, and the company said it couldn't do so by the time this review posted. If we have an update, we'll modify this review accordingly.

When see from off-angle, the Sharp's screen washed out more quickly than either the Sonys or the Samsungs, and bluish discoloration set in that was again somewhat more noticeable than on the other LCD displays.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...rColumnArea1.1

Even with all the trouble I had with my sharps, I was hoping they would finnally beat the infamous "banding". Sharp USA customer care is second to none in my opinion.

Thanks for posting that.... Simply unbelievable that Sharp cannot fix this problem with their TV's... I wonder how much revenue they have lost on potential sales due to the bad reputation this "banding" issue has created them along with the # of returned sets from unhappy Customers...

I have a LC-46D82U which has minor banding.... I can hardly ever notice it and I got my set at a bargain price of $1400 so I'm not too 'miffed' about it.... But I can tell you that Sharp definitely won't have any of my future business do to their inability to demonstrate any type of quality control over their newest products....
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post #10 of 141
11/12/08 at 7:04am
I had my 52" D82 replaced by Sears (protection agreement) after 18 months of use due to minor banding. I used my store credit to get the D85. The D85 processes fast motion a lot better than the D82 did, and the PQ looks pretty even and free of banding. I changed all of the settings for better PQ on the 82, but have only bumped up the brightness and color for the 85. I e-mailed Sharp some pics of that spot above the logo and am awaiting disposition. Anyone else here have a 52" D85????
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post #11 of 141
11/12/08 at 7:11am
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I had my 52" D82 replaced by Sears (protection agreement) after 18 months of use due to minor banding. I used my store credit to get the D85. The D85 processes fast motion a lot better than the D82 did, and the PQ looks pretty even and free of banding. I changed all of the settings for better PQ on the 82, but have only bumped up the brightness and color for the 85. I e-mailed Sharp some pics of that spot above the logo and am awaiting disposition. Anyone else here have a 52" D85????

Curious, why did you wait 18 months to do something about the banding on your D82U???
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post #12 of 141
11/12/08 at 8:06am
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Curious, why did you wait 18 months to do something about the banding on your D82U???

The problem did not surface until that time. I had a very narrow, barely noticeable horizontal line across the center of the screen.
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post #13 of 141
11/12/08 at 7:12pm
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I just ordered from Amazon. I have a two-year old 32" Sharp LCD that I have been extremely happy with...So I have pulled the trigger. I'll let you know what I think after the set is delivered.
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post #14 of 141
11/13/08 at 8:22am
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The problem did not surface until that time. I had a very narrow, barely noticeable horizontal line across the center of the screen.

That's strange, I thought it was a problem that was either present on the panel or not... Not necessarily something that would surface or get worse over time....

Do you think maybe it was present from day 1 and you just didn't notice it?
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post #15 of 141
11/13/08 at 9:00am
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That's strange, I thought it was a problem that was either present on the panel or not... Not necessarily something that would surface or get worse over time....

Do you think maybe it was present from day 1 and you just didn't notice it?

Definitely not. I don't know if you would call it banding, or "pixel" failure. It was not there the first time I went to the test screens, but last month when I did a test, it was there. It was a great TV (the D82), until that point. Sears didn't want the TV back, so now I have 2! I guess the old one will have to go to the mancave in the basement! I can handle the line for having a dedicated video game TV!

Has anyone else heard anything about the D85s?
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post #16 of 141
11/13/08 at 9:13am
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Definitely not. I don't know if you would call it banding, or "pixel" failure. It was not there the first time I went to the test screens, but last month when I did a test, it was there. It was a great TV (the D82), until that point. Sears didn't want the TV back, so now I have 2! I guess the old one will have to go to the mancave in the basement! I can handle the line for having a dedicated video game TV!

Has anyone else heard anything about the D85s?

I had the same issue with my 42d62u. I would not call it banding in the sharp sense. In my case it was a vertical line 2-3 pixels wide that darkened after 12 months directly down the center of the panel. Sharp was kind enough to replace it with a banded and abused refurb 42d64u. They replaced that with a new 46d82u which immediately went on craigslist and funded my current lcd purchase.
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post #17 of 141
11/13/08 at 11:08am
I have a 52" 62U that has minor banding. I really only noticed it on 1 movie, normal TV has never been a issue.

I bought a 42" 72U shortly after the 62U and there is no banding at all, even minor. Also the black levels on the 72 are much better.
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post #18 of 141
11/19/08 at 5:13am
It's odd that the D85U has more banding issues than the D65U. I can tell you my D65U is perfect, no banding at all. I love my Sharp, though I do wish I could have afforded a 46+ set. I'm glad I didn't get anything smaller than 42".
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post #19 of 141
11/23/08 at 11:37am
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The set was delivered on Friday. After intalling it on Saturday, I am thrilled with the TV. I see no banding issues on my set. My source is the SA 8300HD from Cox runnig 1080i. I don't own BluRay yet to see 1080p. But so far I (and the wife) are thrilled with the picture quality. Very happy...
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post #20 of 141
12/4/08 at 6:49pm
I plan to use this TV to game with my Xbox 360. Has anyone experienced any lag issues with this TV? How does non-HD programming look?
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post #21 of 141
12/4/08 at 10:07pm
Does anyone know for sure if the d85u does proper 5:5 pulldown for the 120hz?
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post #22 of 141
12/20/08 at 6:22pm
I've had the lc52d85u for just under a month now. It makes me happy. I actually couldn't stop giggling whenever I thought about it for the first couple of weeks. I have not noticed any banding issues although I have read that they could exist. As for how normal TV looks... disappointing. But to be fair, that is in comparisson to HD TV or a blu-ray disk. Really, how good can an old episode of Seinfeld look?

Previous to this TV I had the LC42D64U (part of upgrading ment selling the old one). I had no issues with the previous sharp and was happy with what I had recieved. For those wondering why I went with Sharp over any other brand, for me it was bang for the buck. I had heard some not so good things about Samsung and also heard (although may not be true, never verified it) that Sony only keeps parts for a TV for a limited amount of time. I had heard that Samsung and Sony work out of the same plant and that Toshiba and Sharp shared a plant. The Sharp was less expensive. I went with LCD over Plasma solely because of the glare that can be found on Plasma screens. Some places I went to I saw no glare, other places I saw a lot of glare. Based on my screen placement I thought that there would be a glare issue if I went plasma.
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post #23 of 141
12/20/08 at 7:41pm
My first lcd hdtv was a 32GP1U and it was perfect (other than size) with no banding, clouding, or stuck pixels.

I got a Sony Z4100 (2 stuck pixels) a few days ago, and now see this Sharp on Amazon for a great price (46" D85) and am debating getting it and doing a comparison. It would come out to be slightly cheaper and may potentially be better.
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post #24 of 141
12/23/08 at 10:08am
I just had my Sharp Aquos LC52D85U delivered. Initially I ordered a Samsung 52LN650 from Newegg that the screen shattered during shipment in November. As of a week ago my CC had not been refunded due to an error on their end. With that fixed i found a deal on the Sharp from Amazon with an included Blu-ray and saved 400 bucks off the Samsung.
Currently I am letting the set come to room temp as it was in a truck here in the frigid midwest for a week. Here are some pics of the tv.
My eight year old giant next to the tv



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post #25 of 141
12/23/08 at 11:56am
Just received my LC 42D85u, as with Cubdenno I am waiting for a full 24 hours for mine to come up to room temperature before setting it up. ANyone have any recommended starter settigns for thsi TV??
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post #26 of 141
12/23/08 at 12:05pm
What is with this room temperature stuff?
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post #27 of 141
12/23/08 at 1:47pm
Not sure if this does it justice, but this is right out of the box Blu-ray. Kungfu Panda. We also checked the Elite and the pic quality is fantastic though it makes me slightly dizzy. now I have a reason to upgrade the Sattelite AND the receiver to one that has HDMI. Any advice on what iwould need to do to get the most out of the TV?



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post #28 of 141
12/23/08 at 1:50pm
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What is with this room temperature stuff?

The delivery guys told me to let it warm to room temp after being in sub zero temps for days. It took about 3 hours to warm but I had a fan blowing on the back to allow the convection heating to be faster.
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post #29 of 141
12/23/08 at 2:19pm
I guess that is stuff you learn in places that get below 40 degrees. I was thinking you were getting ready for a bbq and letting the steaks sit out a bit.
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post #30 of 141
12/23/08 at 5:01pm
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I love my new Sharp. I'm the thread starter and have been thrilled with the TV so far. No banding issues so far. It's funny, on our 32" Sharp, you really couldn't see a big difference between SD and HD when sitting back from it. My girl thought that the whole idea of HD was overrated. But now that we have the 52" Sharp TV, the difference is DRAMATIC. Now she actively only wants to find shows in HD to watch.

And a picture:


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