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post #121 of 245
When i was in the store for the swap i had a white test page with black lettering i loaded on a flash drive and tried it on the VT25 and another PN63C8000 and they both displayed line bleed. The Panny had less symptoms than the Sammy but they were present on both.
post #122 of 245
Mine has some vertical lines, but the only way to see them is to look near the tv and out of the corner of your eye and you can only see them on a solid black background. You only catch them with a passing glance generally. I'm not going to do anything about them because they're not noticeable under normal conditions.
post #123 of 245
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Originally Posted by Dayton View Post

Line bleed is inherent to the technology. I think the Kuro's are the only plasmas that don't exhibit line bleed. For non-Kuro plasma owners to claim no line bleed on their sets I say they aren't looking closely enough. Not totally obvious as it should rarely pop up during normal viewing, I don't think anyone should be bothered by the line bleed exhibited during green screens of DVD/BD previews.

Make no mistake, Kuros have line bleed. It is not as bad as I've seen on a number of Samsungs and Panasonics, but it is not non-existent. Just the other day I was watching Sheryl Crow on that Palladia HD network, and at the end of her show, there was a video window on the right as credits scrolled upwards very rapidly on the left. I could see ghost lines scrolling upwards quickly inline with where the credits were without any trouble. It causes a flicker in the video window. You can also observe this during the credits of movies like Cars and A Bug's Life where there are credits scrolling alongside a video window.

The line bleed was much more easily visible on my Sammy 58B560, however. But it was still visible on the Kuro.
post #124 of 245
I either have really bad luck or Samsung Plasma's must be the worst TV out there. Just got another nice black horizontal line going through the TV. This will be the second time they will be coming out to fix this BRAND NEW UNIT!!

post #125 of 245
I'm about ready to pull the trigger on a Samsung PNC8000 over an UNC8000 and this really has me concerned. If this is really an issues with every PDP to some extent the I'm surprised that so many people prefer over LCD.
post #126 of 245
LOL@people that said no.
post #127 of 245
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Originally Posted by LORDLICH View Post

LOL@people that said no.

Said no to the question of horizontal line bleed on a PDP?
post #128 of 245
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Originally Posted by el pablo View Post

I'm about ready to pull the trigger on a Samsung PNC8000 over an UNC8000 and this really has me concerned. If this is really an issues with every PDP to some extent the I'm surprised that so many people prefer over LCD.

Well if you don't like line bleed, you could get an LCD with **** viewing angle, flashlighting and halo's on local dimming sets.

All technologies have their inherent flaws. It's unavoidable. Pick the one that bothers you least.

Plasma's are **** house during the day, exhibit dancing pixels and line bleed. It varies from one model to another how bad each of those are, but they all display it to some extent.

Likewise, LCD's struggle with blacks, screen uniformity, motion, shadow detail and off angle viewing.

No screen out there is perfect.
post #129 of 245
I'm mainly look at a PDP because I really can't stand how much the blacks get washed out on my LED backlit LCD.
post #130 of 245
I have a Samsung PN63B550T2FZA purchased Nov 2009. I started noticing the Red Horizontal line bleed about 2 months ago. Since its still under warranty, I called and they are sending a tech out Aug 25. They did mention something to do with the main picture board. Anyway, I will keep you posted. I also have a Samsung plasma-FPT6374X/XAA that I purchased in Aug of 2007 and have never had any problems with it (knock on wood).
post #131 of 245
I have this issue, but hardly notice it with a moving (regular) image. I only notice it when there are menus (TV display in top left) or the Comcast guidebox on the very edge (grey bar) area of the screen.
post #132 of 245
Samsung sent someone to look at my Plasma and it wasn't the TV at all. It was interference from something else that was not plugged in all the way and creating the pattern on the tv. Yeah! Now the picture is better than ever!!!!
post #133 of 245
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Originally Posted by el pablo View Post

I'm about ready to pull the trigger on a Samsung PNC8000 over an UNC8000 and this really has me concerned. If this is really an issues with every PDP to some extent the I'm surprised that so many people prefer over LCD.

I have had 3 different Samsung panels my last is a B860 (I love the display) has has no HLB and no blick lines.
post #134 of 245
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Originally Posted by razl View Post

Hey i have the samsun 63c7000 (i think you yanks call it the c8000 for some reason) and this line bleeding / banding is very apparent on my set especially when using htcp and going on internet explorer and moving windows around the desktop. this is absouloutley un acceptable from a set that cost 4k

I have the same TV(pn63C7000 - 2 weeks old) and I'm a "yank". My HTPC is hooked up through the HDMI port. You can clearly see banding moving with the windows. I can also see it when I start the netflix app through my BD-P6900. That's connected through HDMI (1.4) too. Banding appears across black text bleeding into the negative white space. ...and I can also see it in the XBOX Dashboard. The boxes on the dashboard descend in size, and you can see the horizontal bleed faintly. From what I've read so far, it seems it's a plasma issue you live with... though I'll still contact Samsung.
post #135 of 245
This has been bothering the hell out of me on my PN58a550 for a couple of years now

I think this particular samsung must have it worse than most plasmas.
Had techs out twice to fix it while i was under warranty. They claimed they couldn't see it, but replaced the motherboard and input panel anyway

Made no difference, so I decided to live with it.

I just come here to vent every couple of years.
post #136 of 245
I think I have been having this same issue.Look at the picture attatched. Samsung sent a tech out today but they weren't sure what it was. They said they had never seen this before. They also said it may be the power supply or logic board but they would have to contact samsung to figure out a solution although I sent this picture to samsung to see if they could tell me what it was but they just wanted to send a tech out. Anybody think it's line bleeding?
LL
post #137 of 245
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Originally Posted by Johntomk View Post

I think I have been having this same issue.Look at the picture attatched. Samsung sent a tech out today but they weren't sure what it was. They said they had never seen this before. They also said it may be the power supply or logic board but they would have to contact samsung to figure out a solution although I sent this picture to samsung to see if they could tell me what it was but they just wanted to send a tech out. Anybody think it's line bleeding?

yep, that's line bleeding

or at least what's what mine has always done
post #138 of 245
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Originally Posted by Johntomk View Post

I think I have been having this same issue.Look at the picture attatched. Samsung sent a tech out today but they weren't sure what it was. They said they had never seen this before. They also said it may be the power supply or logic board but they would have to contact samsung to figure out a solution although I sent this picture to samsung to see if they could tell me what it was but they just wanted to send a tech out. Anybody think it's line bleeding?

Mine looks like that too. The Tech just came out today and replaced the "mainboard". Still looks the same. He said there was nothing he could do. It's above his pay grade. He told me to contact Samsung. I'm guessing if I do so, it'll be an infinite loop of service calls.
post #139 of 245
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Originally Posted by drive View Post

i have a pn50c550 and i notice it only on a white break-in slide. Would you call this normal?

I purchased my pn50c50 a couple days ago noticed same line in exact place your pointing out.
They also are accompanied by a couple others.
I may return pic up another next week , If new one has same issue hmm I don't know....maybe get full refund then pic up a Panasonic so my 30 day return is renewed just in case something goes bad there
post #140 of 245
My 63c8000 has line bleed. I only really notice it on menu screens and commercials. Its an issue I can deal with. I noticed it on all of plasmas in Best Buy. That includes Panasonic / Samsung / LG. I guess its just something inherent to plasma technology.
post #141 of 245
I have a PN50C540 50" Samsung Plasma the picture is great but as soon as the picture goes to a light coloured back ground there is a dull horizontal line about 1/3 of the way down from the top of the screen. Very annoying when your watching a hockey game.

Also Any text on a white or light coloured background results in horizontal bleeding off to each side of the text.

Is this an issue on all Samsungs or just this model.

My brother has the same TV and has the same issues. I've been to 2 other stores and watched the tv do it in both stores.

Anybody have a comment

thanx
post #142 of 245
I just bought a PL63C7000 and I can see the freaking lines when I am moving windows around in Win7 or in some splash screens in Play3 (in this case just when the background color is white).

Does this happen in each 63" model, or I might get a different result if I change to another piece?
post #143 of 245
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Originally Posted by augustobotossi View Post

I just bought a PL63C7000 and I can see the freaking lines when I am moving windows around in Win7 or in some splash screens in Play3 (in this case just when the background color is white).

Does this happen in each 63" model, or I might get a different result if I change to another piece?

Yes.

c8000 here and i only notice it on menu screens and such. I'd imagine it'd be really bad using it as a computer display.
post #144 of 245
I have a 63-8000 that I set up this week Tue. I have been running a break-in DVD that rotates through colored screens and I was wondering what that was I was seeing. I cants see it on every color but especially on the lighter colored screens. It goes across the entire screen like a grid of some kind.

Does it get worse with time?
post #145 of 245
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Originally Posted by Paradox-SJ
I have a 63-8000 that I set up this week Tue. I have been running a break-in DVD that rotates through colored screens and I was wondering what that was I was seeing. I cants see it on every color but especially on the lighter colored screens. It goes across the entire screen like a grid of some kind.

Does it get worse with time?
Welcome to my world of last year! I went through a 50B860 which buzzed like hell, then upgraded to a 58b650 which had those faint lines on light colored backgrounds, then switched to a 58b860 which had the exact same issue. I then went to my local retailer, and it appeared that all models 58"+ had the issue. It looked especially bad watching nature stuff like Planet Earth as there are a lot of sky shots. So I made the jump to a 50g10! Then BOOM, got shafted again with rising black levels! Man was 2009 a bad year for TVs! If I could go back, i'd get a krp500 without hesitation!

Anyways, all of that to say that I was pretty excited to upgrade to a potential 58C7000 this year but it appears the problem remains. I will drop by my local retailer this weekend with a white break-in slide and see how the 58c7000 fares compare to last year and then make a decision. Man it pisses me off cause the new Sammys with the latest firmware had great reviews!!! Is the lg 60pk550 the best model to get this year for the least amount of issues?
post #146 of 245
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Originally Posted by 5_against_1 View Post

.....Is the lg 60pk550 the best model to get this year for the least amount of issues?

FYI LG50PK550 also got such horizontal line bleed issue.

P.S. Will post some photo later tonight.
post #147 of 245
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Originally Posted by samsungbird View Post

I have a PN50C540 50" Samsung Plasma the picture is great but as soon as the picture goes to a light coloured back ground there is a dull horizontal line about 1/3 of the way down from the top of the screen. Very annoying when your watching a hockey game.

Also Any text on a white or light coloured background results in horizontal bleeding off to each side of the text.

Is this an issue on all Samsungs or just this model.

My brother has the same TV and has the same issues. I've been to 2 other stores and watched the tv do it in both stores.

Anybody have a comment

thanx

hmm i have the exact model as u and my tv is fine...
post #148 of 245
I have the same horizontal line bleed on my Samsung PS50C680 3D TV especially on dark text on white backgrounds. I can see many dark/light lines across the screen with an all white screen ($FFFFFF) image. I guess this is related to the uneven voltage drops across the screen. Can this be corrected by firmware. I am on my second set as noticed it within 28 days and had an engineer look at it and said I should have it exchanged. I had purple splodges too which was there all the time and annoying as spoilt the colour. This set has no splodges and the lines are less noticeable on normal content, just appears on adverts mainly so think I will keep it in case the next set is worse. It seems from reading this forum a lot of plasmas have the problem, especially samsung. Maybe I should have bought a high-end set but I can't justify paying £2000+ on a TV, I'd rather buy a car. I've just gone from LCD to plasma as prefer the more natural colour production and more even lighting (no backlight) but dissapointed it's not as even as I thought with the problems I've found. I was going to go for LED but they all look overly saturated, perhaps they can be calibrated better when home though. But I've had a friend with problems of flickering LED backlighting and that would be worse than the horizontal bands now and then.
post #149 of 245
i just changed from a 55 inch lcd to the 58 ich series 7 plasma and god does it have this problem!!!!!!!! i dont know how people can say plasma is better than lcd, pixels jumping around, slight screen flicker, and for some reason the whites arnt as bright. running win 7 and hdmi looks shocking, lines all over the place
post #150 of 245
I noticed line bleed on an lcd the other night...no, i'm sure of it.
I have noticed severity of bleed is dependent on signal quality...cable analog, the worst...dvd, still there...cable hd, better...BD, the least LB on my plasma.
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