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post #31 of 124
Here at the local BB the cost difference between the 2 and 3 disc versions is only $3 more for the 3-disc.

If I can transfer it to my Zune that may be worthwile to just get that. Also, does anyone know if the 3rd disc will just play in a standard dvd player? If so, then it would really be worthwhile so the kids could play it on a different TV than the one in the theatre room. Or, is it just a copy to transfer to computer/portable media player?

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post #32 of 124
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Originally Posted by thomashton View Post

Here at the local BB the cost difference between the 2 and 3 disc versions is only $3 more for the 3-disc.

If I can transfer it to my Zune that may be worthwile to just get that. Also, does anyone know if the 3rd disc will just play in a standard dvd player? If so, then it would really be worthwhile so the kids could play it on a different TV than the one in the theatre room. Or, is it just a copy to transfer to computer/portable media player?

When I looked at the 3rd disc, the file or files (can't remember) are visible but not defined by Windows. Only after I had registered my digital copy did I see the movie file (transferred to my notebook via iTunes) defined as .m4v, which I use iTunes for viewing. You will need to choose which file format (or which player) you want to use because the instruction indicates the code can be used only once.

I chose to use iTunes because I think it operates better than WMP and I have an iPod. Wall*E looks great on my nano and quite decent when I view the iPod movie on my Sony HDTV.

I haven't tried playing the movie file on my blu-ray player. I doubt it will work since the digital copy is for iTunes and WMP.

cheers!
post #33 of 124
Can you burn this digital copy to a DVD-R or play it in a regular DVD player??
post #34 of 124
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Can you burn this digital copy to a DVD-R or play it in a regular DVD player??

Not sure about legal aspects. But technically yes.
post #35 of 124
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Originally Posted by av.pallino View Post

Not sure about legal aspects. But technically yes.

If your DVD player is a Windows Media Playforsure compatible device, then I think it's within the legal agreement or EULA. Get the blu-ray or DVD - it's much better quality anyways. The digital copy was designed for PC's and portable devices. With my Sony HDTV and my Yamaha iPod dock, the highly compressed digital copy of Wall*E looks pretty decent in widescreen. Sound quality is very good. But not anywhere near the quality of blu ray or DVD.

cheers!
post #36 of 124
I got this disk yesterday, sound and picture are excellent, but why not 7.1?

Also, has anyone else had a problem connecting to BD Live with this disk? I get an error stating that BDLive is not yet available in my area. The Sleeping Beauty disk works fine, the Wall-E disk won't connect.
post #37 of 124
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Originally Posted by jonvn View Post

I got this disk yesterday, sound and picture are excellent, but why not 7.1?

Also, has anyone else had a problem connecting to BD Live with this disk? I get an error stating that BDLive is not yet available in my area. The Sleeping Beauty disk works fine, the Wall-E disk won't connect.

Greetings,

Try it again today...


Regards,
post #38 of 124
I can't wait to get my own copy. What a wonderful review, thank you for taking the time for such a comprehensive overview!
post #39 of 124
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Originally Posted by Ralph Potts View Post

Greetings,

Try it again today...


Regards,


Thanks, will do. I spotted something the film was actually supposed to be released today, so maybe it wasn't yet turned on for this film.
post #40 of 124
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Thanks, will do. I spotted something the film was actually supposed to be released today, so maybe it wasn't yet turned on for this film.

Well, I've got mine in my DMP-BD50 and the download progress bar got to what I would estimate
is about 85 or 90% complete, and it has been just sitting there for about 20 minutes now
playing the background music and twinkling the stars (and warning me not to turn off the
player :-).

P.S. The 3rd disk is apparently a "digital copy" you can load in your ipod or windows media
player along with an insert in the package with a license code you'll need to activate it.
post #41 of 124
Hey guys, technical question on the digital copy. Can I load and activate the digital copy on my home server, then watch it on another PC in the house using WMP on that specific PC?

This would be similar to me installing it on my home PC via iTunes, then watching it on AppleTV (for clarification only).

Need to know before I install. I am also placing a call into their technical support.

Edit: Just got off phone with Disney support. They said "no-go" on the client-server configuration. When you install the movie, it downloads set of keys that are local to the PC where the download occurred. Only that PC, in my case the server, would have ability to play the movie back - my other PCs in the network would NOT be able to play it back using their local version of WMP. DRM stinks........

I wonder if AppleTV is the exception where this would work..... The tech support guy didn't know if this was the case....
post #42 of 124
I just ordered the 3 disc Blu-ray edition of Wall-E. I do understand that I won't be able to hear the soundtrack using my old Onkyo/Integra 5.1 DD only receiver because the soundtrack is only encoded in DTS-HD 6.1 Master Audio. (Eventually I plan on upgrading my receiver, but not right away.) One question--will I be able to hear the audio of the movie through my Sony KDS-60 A3000 HDTV? I have a Playstation 3 hooked up to the TV directly via HDMI cable, and normally route the DD 5.1 audio to my receiver through an optical cable (I wish all blu-ray movies included a legacy 5.1 DD soundtrack--this will be my first purchase of one that doesn't). Thanks for any feedback.
post #43 of 124
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Originally Posted by joejay View Post

I just ordered the 3 disc Blu-ray edition of Wall-E. I do understand that I won't be able to hear the soundtrack using my old Onkyo/Integra 5.1 DD only receiver because the soundtrack is only encoded in DTS-HD 6.1 Master Audio. (Eventually I plan on upgrading my receiver, but not right away.) One question--will I be able to hear the audio of the movie through my Sony KDS-60 A3000 HDTV? I have a Playstation 3 hooked up to the TV directly via HDMI cable, and normally route the DD 5.1 audio to my receiver through an optical cable (I wish all blu-ray movies included a legacy 5.1 DD soundtrack--this will be my first purchase of one that doesn't). Thanks for any feedback.


You should be able to get 5.1 via optical with no issues...it would just downconvert the mix
post #44 of 124
Visually stunning but very disappointed in the lack of a DD 5.1 soundtrack for those of us with perfectly good 5.1 systems. FWIW using a PS3 with optical audio to my older RCA receiver only gets 2.0 sound.
post #45 of 124
I agree about being disappointed in the lack of a DD 5.1 soundtrack or even a DD 2.0 track on the Wall-E BD.

My Onkyo/Integra receiver does decode DD 5.1 from my PS3 just fine via optical, but it has no DTS capability at all. The PS3 can't downconvert DTS audio to DD, so I'm just out of luck there, until I replace my receiver. But, as you said, people still have perfectly good 5.1 systems. They may not decode DTS or HD audio but still provide very good surround sound. It would be nice if BD manufacturers would keep us in mind.
post #46 of 124
I'm not getting 6.1 sound from my receiver. 7.1 DTS-MA titles are working fine but I get no sound out of my back speaker. I currently only have a 6.1 setup so I figured it would work fine, am I missing something here?
post #47 of 124
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Originally Posted by huntrm View Post

Hey guys, technical question on the digital copy. Can I load and activate the digital copy on my home server, then watch it on another PC in the house using WMP on that specific PC?

This would be similar to me installing it on my home PC via iTunes, then watching it on AppleTV (for clarification only).

Need to know before I install. I am also placing a call into their technical support.

Edit: Just got off phone with Disney support. They said "no-go" on the client-server configuration. When you install the movie, it downloads set of keys that are local to the PC where the download occurred. Only that PC, in my case the server, would have ability to play the movie back - my other PCs in the network would NOT be able to play it back using their local version of WMP. DRM stinks........

I wonder if AppleTV is the exception where this would work..... The tech support guy didn't know if this was the case....

Interesting. I'm not sure how that all works with WMP. I chose iTunes and activated the movie on my Thinkpad. I can play the MPEG4 file on my other PCs just fine. I don't have a home network robust enough to stream music and video. I've never tried Apple TV; I prefer Sony TV.

I bet I can only play my activated copy of Wall*E on authorized machines via iTunes. If true, up to 5 computers can play the movie via iTunes. When I have the chance, maybe next week when school is on break, I'll try to play the movie on an unauthorized machine.
post #48 of 124
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I agree about being disappointed in the lack of a DD 5.1 soundtrack or even a DD 2.0 track on the Wall-E BD.

My Onkyo/Integra receiver does decode DD 5.1 from my PS3 just fine via optical, but it has no DTS capability at all. The PS3 can't downconvert DTS audio to DD, so I'm just out of luck there, until I replace my receiver. But, as you said, people still have perfectly good 5.1 systems. They may not decode DTS or HD audio but still provide very good surround sound. It would be nice if BD manufacturers would keep us in mind.

Ok, now I understand...My Yammie has dts and DD, so it downconverts it to DTS 5.1...It even lights up a center surround speaker on the front display even though I don't have one hooked up.
post #49 of 124
Hey guys, I just picked up Wall-E last night and the picture is the best I've seen on my Panasonic 42PZ85U! Amazing!

However, I'm having an audio issue that some of you have touched on already, but I'm still not sure exactly where the fault it. I had my PS3 connected to my Panasonic PT960 receiver via optical, which gives me either PCM 2.0 or downgraded 5.1 for most other blu-ray movies. But with Wall-E I get 5.1 from the previews, menus, special features etc, but not with the movie itself!

I know the movie is DTS HD 6.1, which my PS3 should be able to output as DTS 5.1 via optical, right? And my receiver should be able to accept anything the PS3 sends it through optical. Where have I gone wrong? I would think it would at least play out as stereo, but nothing at all?

Thanks for any help!
post #50 of 124
When I play Wall-e on my PS3 it shows DTS MA 6.1, but my Onkyo 705 is showing 7.1. Has anybody else seen this?

Also my disc has the audio error at the beginning. Does anyone know if this is a software or hardware problem? If it is a software problem, what are the odds of Disney issuing a recall?
post #51 of 124
I was getting TONS of crackling noise from the movie when I played it on my PS3. I changed the settings and all is well. Awesome movie, my daughter loved it.
post #52 of 124
Mine, is playing fine on an older 6.1 Yamaha with dts/dd decoding...I did do the software download when I inserted the disc for the first time, not sure if that benefited anything....the display on my unit shows DTS 5.1
post #53 of 124
I just purchased Wall-E and was surprised that when you go to the Audio Options in the Menu screen, my three choices were "Dolby Digital 5.1", "Dolby Digital 5.1 French" and "Dolby Digital 5.1 Spanish"... no DTS-HD choice (despite the labelling on the back of the package)... what's up with that?

I purchased the disc in Canada - does anyone else have the same issue?

Thanks.
post #54 of 124
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Originally Posted by urbanplowboy View Post

Hey guys, I just picked up Wall-E last night and the picture is the best I've seen on my Panasonic 42PZ85U! Amazing!

However, I'm having an audio issue that some of you have touched on already, but I'm still not sure exactly where the fault it. I had my PS3 connected to my Panasonic PT960 receiver via optical, which gives me either PCM 2.0 or downgraded 5.1 for most other blu-ray movies. But with Wall-E I get 5.1 from the previews, menus, special features etc, but not with the movie itself!

I know the movie is DTS HD 6.1, which my PS3 should be able to output as DTS 5.1 via optical, right? And my receiver should be able to accept anything the PS3 sends it through optical. Where have I gone wrong? I would think it would at least play out as stereo, but nothing at all?

Thanks for any help!

Digital 5.1 audio via optical what is so downgraded about that? I don't understand your complaint. You need to check your optical cable. It may be loose or not. Also check your receiver for the proper audio assignment to your BD player. Since you're using the optical did you turn the HDMI audio OFF(RAW)? Does your receiver have the AUTO setting for all digital audio? Check the rest of your audio settings on your receiver and verify them with your remote...
post #55 of 124
I'm sorry, I wasn't clear...The problem I'm having is that with my configuration, I get NO audio at all for the main movie. I DO get audio for everything else I've watched on the disc including the menus and special features, and in 5.1 no less, but nothing comes through for the main movie. That is, unless I change my PS3 to output via HDMI into my tv, which then sends a stereo signal to my receiver...so the audio is there, I just can't decode it right.

I have the PS3 set up to output via optical. I know it won't pass through the uncompressed 6.1 signal, but it should at least send out a DTS 5.1 signal, right? Or a PCM 2.0 signal? Also, I'm using the Digital Aux input on my reciever, which should accept anything the PS3 can send it...

It's odd to me that everything plays except for the movie. I guess the menus and special features could all be DD or DTS 5.1 perhaps?
post #56 of 124
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Originally Posted by urbanplowboy View Post

I'm sorry, I wasn't clear...The problem I'm having is that with my configuration, I get NO audio at all for the main movie. I DO get audio for everything else I've watched on the disc including the menus and special features, and in 5.1 no less, but nothing comes through for the main movie. That is, unless I change my PS3 to output via HDMI into my tv, which then sends a stereo signal to my receiver...so the audio is there, I just can't decode it right.

I have the PS3 set up to output via optical. I know it won't pass through the uncompressed 6.1 signal, but it should at least send out a DTS 5.1 signal, right? Or a PCM 2.0 signal? Also, I'm using the Digital Aux input on my reciever, which should accept anything the PS3 can send it...

It's odd to me that everything plays except for the movie. I guess the menus and special features could all be DD or DTS 5.1 perhaps?


Does your reciever decode DTS at all ?
post #57 of 124
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Originally Posted by Yankees24 View Post

You should be able to get 5.1 via optical with no issues...it would just downconvert the mix

No downconversion, it will just ignore the extension packets of ES and HD MA. So it will be the DTS core 5.1
post #58 of 124
I'm with Ralph regarding of the audio, and I probably would give a little lower score. The mix was just too front heavy for my taste, and unlike he, I didn't care for the score. YMMV
post #59 of 124
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Originally Posted by thehun View Post

No downconversion, it will just ignore the extension packets of ES and HD MA. So it will be the DTS core 5.1


correct, that's what I meant ....
post #60 of 124
Does wall-e have BD live? Can't seem to find it.
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