Originally Posted by Jeffer65
I know we can't talk price here, but there seems to be some pretty good deals on this remote out there. My Harmony 659 is dying after seven years. Its been great, very tough (survived a few drops on tile floor). I am concerned that the new Harmony remotes are not built as well. Even though the R50 has been replaced, is it worth picking up? I know it is not programmed on a PC. I have seven devices, nothing really exotic either.
I had an R50 briefly but returned it for the newer R40 and i like the R40 much better, even at twice the price. Here's some info i posted somewhere (don't remember if it was on AVS or Remote Central).....
R50 has the ability to hide/un-hide screen icons, but the R40 does not.
The R40 has macro editing capability, but the R50 does not.
R40 has the ability to relocate Device icons on the Main Screen and relocate Function icons on the individual devices' screens, but in both cases an icon can only be swapped with another existing icon and cannot be moved into a blank space on the screens so you should carefully consider exactly where you want to place your device icons on the Main Screen before you begin programming the remote. Some users may want to place their primary devices on the first page of the Main Screen, while others will create their devices on page 2 or page 3 of the Main Screen then use page 1 to store their activies and/or macros.
Once a device has been created in a blank space on the Main Screen, the only way to make that space blank again is to delete that device completely. A work-around for restoring a space to blank is to create a "fake" device on page 2 or page 3, swap this new fake device with the device that's occupying the space you want to make blank, then delete that new fake device and that will leave that space blank.
R40 adds 4 colored "Favorites" hard keys that are intended to be used to store favorite channels, but they can instead be used to place macros on, or taught to perform other commands (like volume or slow motion etc). If you use them for macros, the macro only works when you're inside a particular device. For instance when i'm in Tivo watching mode, i created a press and hold macro on the yellow "News" key on the far right to switch to watch my TWC DVR. Then when i'm in TWC DVR watching mode, i created a macro on the far left key to switch back to Tivo mode.
The discontinued R50 is selling for roughly half the price of the new R40 on Amazon and EBay etc, but to me the better design and ergonomics and overall feel are worth it to me, but probably not for everybody.
The button ergonomics and overall feel in-hand are much better on the R40. The R50's Volume and Channel buttons, and FF/Rew Transport buttons are lower than the face of the remote and it felt weird and ungainly in my hand. I returned my R50 primarily for this reason (among others), and i much prefer the R40's design, feel, and more conventional button location. I only had the R50 for less than a week so i didn't fully explore it, but if there are any other differences between the two then i'm not aware of them and i haven't spotted anything else in the various reviews and posts so i think i covered them all.