Originally Posted by plmn
If that is a shot against white levels, the truth is that contrary to popular belief, ice is not pure white in real life. Not even close, really. People who have actually attended hockey games in person know this.
Disecting my example, which may not be the best, does not change the fact that all plasmas, including the king of plasmas, have a terrible problem rendering white. If you have seen the Samsung/NFL promo running at Best Buy you would know exactly what I mean. The promo has a moment when the background is just simply white. All other sets such as LCDs, RP DLPs and a lonely CRT showed that backrgound as white without any threat to my retinas. At the same time, a five-and-a-half-grand Pioneer did white as gray that is as dark as the background of the Plasma Concepts
ad displayed at the top of the AVS page I can see right now as I type.
Interestingly enough, the management of the Best Buy store where I was (in Arlington Heights, IL, on Rand Road) chose to place the above-mentioned Pioneer in an alley away form the main traffic. Why would the best TV set be shoved aside like this? My best bet is they just don't have any hope to sell it as, to a casual observer, the Pioneer just does not offer any value in terms of PQ-to-price ratio. Even when placed next to the remaining RP DLPs, which already look like pathetic dinosaurs compared to an average LCD, how do you convince a buyer to add another four grand to the 1500 for the RP set when the Pioneer's, or any other plasma's, blacks are dark gray and the whites just gray?
I read here, including this thread, about the LCDs' motion blur so awful that even an iceberg or a clock on the wall is too fast. Nonsense! A 4ms LCD has no more blur than a plasma for a simple reason that plasma, contrary to the urban myth, has a decay time that is comparable to the LCD's response time. Granted, turning a pixel ON is sub-millisecond fast. To get it dark again is not as the decay is not actively induced or controlled the way the turn-on is. Rather, it is based on dissipating the energy that was in the cell but is no longer supplied. I watched all kinds of action, slow and fast, on the plasmas right next to LCDs and could not see any difference while actively looking for it. My eyesight is just fine and I am not one of the "ignorant and uneducated shoppers" so often mentioned and maligned.
So, LCD guys, other than the plasma's better off-center PQ and better blacks when seen in total darkness, concede nothing.