The Official Magnepan Owners Thread - Page 5

Originally Posted by s.bradford

Anything done to make the speaker's frame more rigid in space will have an improving effect. As to whether the listener will feel this is a groundbreaking improvement will of course vary depending on both them and their setup.

Originally Posted by imuesmail

Hello friends,

I enjoy my MMGs both for stero and HT. I currently have some cheap Insignias as Center and surrounds. My sub is a klipsch Sub10. All with Yamaha 661 and Emotiva UPA-7.

Any recommendation for center and surrounds? The surrounds have to be mounted on side walls. How is the MMG-C with the MMGs?

Thanks in advance,
imu

Originally Posted by imuesmail

How is the MMG-C with the MMGs?

Originally Posted by dgmerrill

I'll remain skeptical until I see some before and after testing that clearly demonstrates the improvement and that it's audible. Oddly enough, there seems to be a dearth of objective testing of that assertion.

Originally Posted by dgmerrill

I'll remain skeptical until I see some before and after testing that clearly demonstrates the improvement and that it's audible. Oddly enough, there seems to be a dearth of objective testing of that assertion.

Originally Posted by s.bradford

It is simple physics really. Anything projected from a shaky platform is going to be less sharp. Video or audio. But you can test for yourself to see if you'll hear the difference.

Originally Posted by Summa

That's where I'm at with a lot of this stuff too, in all honesty. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I love tubes, but I'm not sure how I feel about stuff like interconnects and speaker wires. I know a lot of people also feel that amplifiers are sonically indistinguishable, and I don't know how I feel about that either...but I know that HYBRID amps are more to my liking that solid state. I also know that I like a tubed DAC better than a SS DAC. But I'm with you...I'd really like to see more objective data and DBX testing in this hobby.

Originally Posted by dgmerrill

I have tested it and heard no sonic difference between the stock stands and the Mye stands

Originally Posted by datranz

yesterday i head a magnepan for the first time at inland home theatre sound, and oh my gosh, it has the most realistic, pleasing sound i have ever heard. I have never been this impress in a speaker before, the sound was amazingly airy and transparent as if i was there in the concert live.

Originally Posted by rynopr

How are the badges/insignias attached to the speakers? I was just wondering if they put a whole in the sock?

Originally Posted by rynopr

How are the badges/insignias attached to the speakers? I was just wondering if they put a whole in the sock?

Anybody every try these rear wave attenuators?

http://cgi.ebay.com/MAGNEPAN-Quasi-R...QQcmdZViewItem

Originally Posted by Summa

Hi Imu...

Don't take this the wrong way, but having that Insignia as a center with the MMGs should be a CRIME lol. Have you ever tried setting the center speaker to "off" on your Yamaha receiver and running movies in phantom mode? Thats what I did when I had MMGs and I was quite happy with it. Having a far lesser speaker as a center, particularly a non-Maggie, ought to be sticking out like a sore thumb! I have a CC3 on the way soon from a fellow AVS'er, cause I want to see how it does with my 3.6s, but if it doesn't work out then I'll just go back to phantom. The size of the Maggie sound stage makes phantom mode a very attractive option unless you have others sitting off-axis. Give it a shot...you might like it!

As for the Maggie centers, I've heard neither, but the CC3 is widely considered a far superior speaker. That being said, they have an in-home trial on the MMG-C just as they do the MMGs, so you may just want to try it out for yourself

Originally Posted by s.bradford

Not to belabor the point, but were your tests done full range, with the same source, level, position, etc. and in a manner that would rule out the worthlessness of audible memory?

Originally Posted by s.bradford

I have no doubt you did not perceive a difference in two listening sessions separated by the time it took to take the speakers down, mount them in the stands, and set them back up, but that is hardly test criteria I would consider fool proof.

Originally Posted by dgmerrill

Following that logic to its ultimate conclusion - If that were true, then it wouldn't make the purchase of the stands for their sonic enhancements worth the money and effort for most purchasers. They simply wouldn't notice the difference in regard to the alleged improvements.

Originally Posted by s.bradford

You assume that the difference they make would not be discernible by others if they were not discernible by you. I wouldn't make that assumption... rather I would have commented that although I had not gone to the trouble of performing any real AB comparisons or measurements, I did not perceive a noticeable difference after installing them.

Originally Posted by neekos

I wish Magnepan offered a HT setup with a decent center that can keep up with the dynamic demands of the HT sound. I know they are more geared towards music, but man, if I could have a taste of that for HT...

I once had MMG's and the CC1 for that setup. It just did not cut it for mein HT mode. BUT, for music, they were phenomenal ! I still remember how impressed I was with the MMG's. The center was the weak link.

Originally Posted by imuesmail

Ha,ha...I deserved that! Yes, phantom center works good, but dialogue placement when watching a movie suffers a bit. I will keep the center off for a while and may get "used" to not having it.

If not getting the MMG-C, any other center that people have tried that is full range and integrated ok?

Any recommendations for surrounds---dipoles??

Thanks,
Imu

Originally Posted by Summa

It all depends on what your HT goals are. I actually went back to Maggies MAINLY for HT. As it turns out, the 2-channel performance is ever better than I expected, but Maggies can make movies a pretty amazing experience.

Have you tried the CC3? Or phantom mode? Do you have enough juice in your amp for the application?

Originally Posted by neekos

I wish Magnepan offered a HT setup with a decent center that can keep up with the dynamic demands of the HT sound. I know they are more geared towards music, but man, if I could have a taste of that for HT...

Originally Posted by Summa

I don't remember ever reading a post on any of the forums where you were this anti-Mye. I'm going to have to really give these stands some evaluation time to see if I come to the same conclusion as you or not.

I guess to me, since sound waves are a physical thing, it makes sense that they would be more effectively propogated when originating from a more stable platform. Whether that translates into a sonic improvement or not, I dunno...guess I'll find out.

Originally Posted by neekos

Hey Summa:

I never tried the CC3 or phantom mode. I had an Emotiva amp powering them at the time. It wasn't a lack of power, it was the combination of the CC1 with the MMG's. Maybe the CC1 was the weak link.

What speakers did you have prior to the Maggies, and what is your current speaker setup ?

Thanks

Originally Posted by dgmerrill

I've assumed no such thing.

Now, I really have had enough of this silly audio woo nonsense.

Originally Posted by dgmerrill

no real basis in science to support them

Given the mass of the speakers themselves, I doubt the stands will have much influence on sound wave propagation.

Originally Posted by s.bradford

I don't think it is nonsense. I have a good friend and business associate that just installed them on his 3's and he hears a difference, and I have no reason to doubt him. I have also heard from countless others, but whose opinions I can't vouch for.

I just don't agree with your assessment that if you can't hear it, it doesn't exist.

Originally Posted by s.bradford

There is a very real basis in science to support them. For instance, I can prove that the excursion of the ribbon driver is insignificant to the back and forth movement of the frame with full range material at moderate levels.

It is like throwing a baseball while standing on a surfboard in a swimming pool. Yes the ball will still be propelled forward, but not at the same velocity as on firm ground.

Originally Posted by dgmerrill

That isn't my assessment. My assessment is that you have no basis in known science for your outlandish claims. Anecdotal evidence is next to worthless, to put it as politely as I am able.