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post #301 of 415
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dc,
The price of the GE includes custom, non-metallic finishes. Hank's has a drop down listing of all of the available colors and includes pricing for metallic finishes.
post #302 of 415
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Thanks fotto. The budget was a consideration, but I also wanted speakers that fit the scale of my smaller room. The QS8s are very nice but felt a bit pricey to me. Even the QS4 was a bit higher than my second choice - the Emotiva surrounds. But, I wanted speakers that highlighted the trim work.
post #303 of 415
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dc,
The price of the GE includes custom, non-metallic finishes. Hank's has a drop down listing of all of the available colors and includes pricing for metallic finishes.

I have a six zone QS I picked up on e-bay, I'll probably just spray paint the cover. But if I come across a deal on custom covers I'd do that.
post #304 of 415
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Well, it doesn't seem that CEDIA has narrowed my list of potential pjs as I had hoped. In fact, the list has expanded. Initially, I planned to choose between the panny AE3000/4000 or the Sony HW60/70/85. Now, I've added the JVC RS15/25 to the mix.

While I really like the memory zoom feature of the panny, I've come around to realize that I won't be changing AR that frequently. After PQ and price, of course, the most important feature for me then is motorized zoom/focus/lens shift, not necessarily memorized. My loosely defined ranking currently has the JVCs #1, followed by the Pannys at #2, then the Sonys close behind at #3.

Off to do some more research. I need to track down some reviews of the AE4000?
post #305 of 415
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Well, it doesn't seem that CEDIA has narrowed my list of potential pjs as I had hoped. In fact, the list has expanded. Initially, I planned to choose between the panny AE3000/4000 or the Sony HW60/70/85. Now, I've added the JVC RS15/25 to the mix.

While I really like the memory zoom feature of the panny, I've come around to realize that I won't be changing AR that frequently. After PQ and price, of course, the most important feature for me then is motorized zoom/focus/lens shift, not necessarily memorized. My loosely defined ranking currently has the JVCs #1, followed by the Pannys at #2, then the Sonys close behind at #3.

I vascillated between the AE3000 and the RS-10. I wasn't sure I wanted to give up on having frame interpolation, but I finally went with the RS-10. No regrets. But the RS-15 would have made that choice a snap.
post #306 of 415
The theater looks great kjlewie. I like the lighting behind the screen. I have an old projector that I unfortunately had to buy a new bulb for while I was deciding on a new projector too. I don't think you can go wrong with any of the choices you listed.
post #307 of 415
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Thanks Jason. I actually decided on a new pj last week and picked it up Monday (got the "UPS exemption" email and jumped into action). Installed it just before MNF and I haven't had much sleep since! I'll post some pics and screenshots later tonight.
post #308 of 415
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Thanks Jason. I actually decided on a new pj last week and picked it up Monday (got the "UPS exemption" email and jumped into action). Installed it just before MNF and I haven't had much sleep since! I'll post some pics and screenshots later tonight.

So what did you get!
post #309 of 415
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So what did you get!

Oh yeah. I picked up a JVC RS25. It will replace my 5 year old 720p Sony. It did not stay in the box for very long.











Here are a couple of pics of the new RS25 and the outgoing HS51


post #310 of 415
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Here are some screenshots of the RS25 in action. I used a tripod, but any suggestions on how to take good screenshots are welcomed.










The picture is good enough out of the box that I haven't tweaked any of the settings yet. Now I need to decide on a universal remote to control everything. Any suggestions?
post #311 of 415
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Here are some screenshots of the RS25 in action. I used a tripod, but any suggestions on how to take good screenshots are welcomed.

Ummmmhhhh!!!! Does look pretty damn good to me

Very nice congrats!

Universal remote, what are you after IR or RF? I like Harmony but it's not everyones cup of tea.
post #312 of 415
They say that Harmony isn't as good as the others, it will miss commands, but for the ability to program it yourself w/o any technical ability, it works fine for me. I think the form factor of the "Harmony One" is quite a bit nicer than the 880/890 that I previously had. If you need RF, I think the Harmony 900 is the same form factor but the price is higher.
post #313 of 415
I agree Dave about the new units. Having raised buttons vs. the flush is an improvemet. A lot people knocked the 880/890 because of this, but I am quite accustomed to my unit, in particular because it has little ridges on certain buttons for you to know where your at.

The one 1 (IR) and 900 (IR and RF) are very nice units with touch screen capabilities. Price vs. Performance vs. your ability to customize cant be beat. Although I read that they took away the ability to do the sequences/macros which may a downer for many. There was a way to learn multiple commands in raw form which one may still be able to do.

They also have the 700 now (IR) for 6 devices and no touch screen. Decent unit but the above would be one of my Harmony choices.
post #314 of 415
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oman and dc, thanks for the feedback.

I've looked closely at the 900 with its RF capabilities. Came close to buying one at the local BB. But, I'm trying to get educated and comfortable with the capabilities of the new RF extender and IR emitters. Most of what I've read indicates the IR signals bounce around inside of an equipment cabinet to hit the IR receiver on your gear. But, if you have a open rack, how reliably does the IR signal bounce around the entire room? I've been surfing and grinding on that question for a couple of weeks. I may have to buy one to test and perhaps return but that would be a pain.

Alternatively, during construction, I ran CAT6 from the equipment room to the screen wall and pj box and I ran PELV wiring from the equipment room to the GE QS's IR port. It will take a bit of noodling to figure out what, exactly, I need to do. But, I think I can use the prewire to set the whole system for IR control. That would make the One more attractive. The concept seems logical, but I haven't been able to put all of the pieces together in my mind.

I need to spend some more time on the remote control forum. Any suggested resources for learning a bit more about this stuff?
post #315 of 415
Remotecentral.com has resources for all the players.

I would give the 900 a shot though. Jamis uses a powermid with blaster to cotrol his equipment (same idea) and only had a couple of things missing commands, with the big and two mini blasters you'll probably be ok but if need be you can add the IR Prisms listed on the link which jamis did and hasn't reported an issue that I know of.

http://www.hometech.com/hts/products...ers/index.html

Your other option will ultimately have to be an IR block with emitters if you go IR. I recommend Xantech, with Buffalo IR receivers if you want the tube type.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Xantech-291-KIT-...item3ef901421f
post #316 of 415
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Thanks for the links oman. I'll check them and jamis' thread out.
post #317 of 415
A couple of other things, with the xantech it makes it a little easier to add an emitter to your projector location using that cat6 wire. That's what I did with 3.5 port adapter from radioshack which I soldered. I put a dual emitter to control the projector and starceiling.

The other thing is that I made an IR network by placing table top receivers in the bedroom and living room. I used tube type in the HT and rec. room. This allows me to control all the equipment in the closet. I network my cable box to all those spaces and my receiver can be used for sound in my rec. room.

In theory the same could be done with RF but you may be limited due to distance and/or to many walls.
post #318 of 415
VERY nice build. Those screen shots are ridiculous!
post #319 of 415
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Thanks Dradius. I do like the picture. I haven't had a chance to tweak the settings yet, though.

As I think about it a bit, that is probably a good thing at this point.
post #320 of 415
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I'm still trying to figure out my universal remote and I think I've crossed most questions off the list. All, except for couple, of course.

I'm planning to get the Harmony 900 for the RF/IR blaster. The 900 comes with a main RF/IR blaster and 2 mini blasters. Here is what I have figured out so far:

Components to be controlled include:
- MEDIA PLAYER: Oppo BDP-83
- AVR: Sony STR-DA3400ES
- HD SAT BOX: Directv HD20
- PROJECTOR: JVS RS25
- LIGHTING CONTROL: Grafik Eye QS6

I'll control them like this:
- I'll use the main IR Blaster to control my satellite box
- The main blaster has 2 ports on the rear for IR mini blasters. I'll use port 1 with an IR mini blaster to control the projector
- I'll use port 2 with an IR cable to control the AVR from its IR IN jack
- I'll use one of the two IR OUT jacks on the AVR to control the Oppo from its IR IN jack

At this point, both the AVR and the Oppo have an IR OUT jack available. Here is my first question. Does it matter which IR OUT jack I use, the AVR or the Oppo, to connect my Grafik Eye?

The Grafik Eye IR control cable has two 18 gauge wires while all of the IR jacks use 2.5mm or 3.5mm plugs. Here is my second question. How do I terminate the two wire Grafik Eye cable to plug it into the IR OUT jack on the AVR or the Oppo?

I could simply control the GE with the 900 IR as I have line of sight to the rear of the room. But, it seems like I should be able to control the lights with everything else from the RF blaster. Then, I wouldn't need to point the remote anywhere. Does this make sense? Any thoughts or suggestions?

Thanks.
post #321 of 415
You need to find out if the AVR and Oppo send signals through the IR out when they are turned off! If they don't, then you certainly don't want to use the out to go to your Graphik Eye.

The blaster may be all you need to control a couple of your components, it just depends on how well it "blasts" the signal. So test it first to see if you even need to use the ports on it for your components that are near your sat box.

As for terminations, they should just be a 3.5mm jack. So buy a short headphone extender (get stereo, not mono) and cut the ends off, then splice them onto your wire. Not sure off hand which wire would be which so just temporarily hook them up and swap them if it doesn't work.
post #322 of 415
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Thanks Mike. I'm headed out to BB and RS for the 900 and the adapter bits. I'll let you know how it goes.
post #323 of 415
Excellent looking theater! Congratulations.

One question...why are your side and rear surrounds mounted so high?

CJ
post #324 of 415
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Thanks CJ.

When roughing in the conduit, I wanted to mount my surrounds just above ear level (where Dolby recommends). But, I thought that location exposed the side surrounds to potential damage from people walking in the aisles. So, I raised the sides about 1' to their current location where people's heads pass by the speakers, not their arms and shoulders. The rears are at the same height just to maintain aesthetic symmetry.

Despite having a narrow space, we wanted to fit 8 seats. Optimal surround location was one of the compromises to achieve that.

BTW, your space is really taking shape.
post #325 of 415
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I'm just a little giddy at the moment. Even though it took considerably longer than I thought it would (like 4 hours), I got the Harmony 900 set up; programmed and working the way we want it to. Yes.

I still have to tweak the GE QS page to select scenes and to mount the main blaster in front of my rack instead of sitting on a box, but the remote and RF is working as expected.

Speaking of the QS, I thought that it wasn't working with the 900 (primarily because the web set up said the 900 couldn't control it). As I was flipping through my QS manual, my son walked in. He picks up the remote, presses a couple of buttons and turns up the lights! Then he says, "Didn't you tell me not to read in the dark?" or something. "How did you do that?", I asked. He knew he had me so he clears his throat and says, "Dad, it so simple, 'Devices, Lights, +Brightness'.

He'd never seen the remote before and walks in and teaches me something new in 3 seconds. I felt so old...and grateful.

It also felt good when my wife took the 900 for a brief testdrive by pressing the 'Watch TV' button.

No more running to the equipment room to pause the movie or change the channel.
post #326 of 415
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The blaster may be all you need to control a couple of your components, it just depends on how well it "blasts" the signal. So test it first to see if you even need to use the ports on it for your components that are near your sat box.

Thanks Mike. I ended up using the main blaster for all of the components in my rack. Then, I connected the GE and the pj to the main blaster. No need to use the IR ports on the rack components.

Thanks for the help.
post #327 of 415
Glad the 900 is working out well for you. Enjoy and tweak away. Once you get going with it you'll be able to add sequences which to dim lights when hitting play, raise when hitting pause, etc.. It's nice once you get it there.
post #328 of 415
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Thanks Mike. I ended up using the main blaster for all of the components in my rack. Then, I connected the GE and the pj to the main blaster. No need to use the IR ports on the rack components.

Thanks for the help.

No problem! Glad you got it work without too much trouble.
post #329 of 415
Love my Harmony.

I've been tempted to upgrade to the 890 or 900 myself. I still use an old 680 that works great.

I've had no serious issues with the Powermid + external emitter, prisms, HTPC IR adapter, or Harmony PS3 adapter. On the minor side, my DVR occasionally gets picky, but i think it's more the DVR's fault and not the Harmony or Powermid.

In fact, when controlling my PS3, it goes something like this (and still works great):

Remote --( IR )--> Powermid Receiver --( RF )--> Powermid Emitter --( IR )--> Harmony PS3 Adapter --(Bluetooth)--> PS3
post #330 of 415
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Hey Jamis - I really like the Harmony, too. I think my son is amused at my fascination with one touch control. I look forward to a chance to tweak it for the lighting scenes.

I took a long look at the Powermid when I was considering the Harmony One. I calculated that I could save some cash with the H One + Powermid combination compared to the 900 alone. But, without additional emitters, I believe I would have had to point the One at the pj and the GE to control them. Not a huge deal, but not needing line of sight for any component was a big draw for the 900.

Good to hear that the PS3 adapter works well - I may revisit adding one at some point. The PS3 does not sit in the rack but is connected to the HT through the riser I/O plate. The official comment is that the PS3 is a temporary visitor to the HT with a permanent home in the kid's playroom. After a few 4 player sessions of "Little Big Planet" on the big screen, a new vote would likely be 3-1 in favor of keeping the PS3 in the HT. Oh, but the power of that 1 vote.
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