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post #331 of 415
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Thanks CJ.

When roughing in the conduit, I wanted to mount my surrounds just above ear level (where Dolby recommends). But, I thought that location exposed the side surrounds to potential damage from people walking in the aisles. So, I raised the sides about 1' to their current location where people's heads pass by the speakers, not their arms and shoulders. The rears are at the same height just to maintain aesthetic symmetry.

Despite having a narrow space, we wanted to fit 8 seats. Optimal surround location was one of the compromises to achieve that.

BTW, your space is really taking shape.

CJ,

I should clarify that my surrounds are about a foot above ear level for the first row, but just a little above ear level on the riser. I wasn't sure if I was clear before.
post #332 of 415
If I aim the harmony at the front of the room the room, the IR signal that bounces off the screen is strong enough to control my projector flawlessly without the need of an IR booster or repeater. The AE3000 has a very sensitive IR receiver.

The Grafikeye is the only device I purposely aim the remote towards the back of the room for and thats not a big deal.

The powermid emitter station actually sits IN my equipment closet (behind all my equipment). I have the computer IR receiver and the PS3 adapter sitting right in front of it.

I then use one of these for sending the IR signal to the front of the rack:

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_009RX56...9.html?tp=1899

which sits on the bottom sill of the equipment rack in front (between the glass and front of the components aimed up). This is where the prisms that oman mentioned help.


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Hey Jamis - I really like the Harmony, too. I think my son is amused at my fascination with one touch control. I look forward to a chance to tweak it for the lighting scenes.

I took a long look at the Powermid when I was considering the Harmony One. I calculated that I could save some cash with the H One + Powermid combination compared to the 900 alone. But, without additional emitters, I believe I would have had to point the One at the pj and the GE to control them. Not a huge deal, but not needing line of sight for any component was a big draw for the 900.

Good to hear that the PS3 adapter works well - I may revisit adding one at some point. The PS3 does not sit in the rack but is connected to the HT through the riser I/O plate. The official comment is that the PS3 is a temporary visitor to the HT with a permanent home in the kid's playroom. After a few 4 player sessions of "Little Big Planet" on the big screen, a new vote would likely be 3-1 in favor of keeping the PS3 in the HT. Oh, but the power of that 1 vote.
post #333 of 415
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Thanks, I have to revisit my prism bookmark. I just realized I may be able to install the main blaster IN the rack as well. Right now the blaster sits on a box in front of my rack. I've been loosely evaluating ways to mount it where it is, but in the rack would be better/cleaner.

There are lots of comments on the Remote Control forum about how well IR signals bounce around inside an enclosed component cabinet. I may be thinking about it the wrong way (big surprise), but it doesn't seem that the IR signal would be as effective attempting to bounce around an open rack. I guess there's only one way to find out for sure

What do you think? With the prisms, it seems like your set up would be equally effective for a freestanding rack.
post #334 of 415
As long as you have close to line of sight, i think you'll be fine with the prisms.

This is what it looks like... the emitter is the little thingy sitting just below the receiver. You can't really see the prisms too well stuck to each device (left side of the device displays for the receiver and DVR). I think it also helps having the devices closer to the emitter. If they were towards the top of the rack, I'm not sure how well it would have worked.

post #335 of 415
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Very disappointed............................with my camera's memory card.

I'd planned to show my build of the eD DIY P7S-650 subwoofer. I HAD 156 pics of the build from start to paint (including the FedEx guy). Before plugging my camera into my laptop, it gave me a cryptic message that it was unable to view data on some of the files. It didn't worry me terribly as I had so many pics of the build. When I plugged my camera into my laptop, it could not locate any pics on the memory card...they were all gone.

More importantly but without any visual evidence to prove it, the actual build has gone very well. Better than I expected. Nearly anyone can do this. The eD kit fit very well together with glue, 1 1/2" trim nails, wood filler and sanding. The boxes are now primed and painted (Mickey Mouse Black) with the drivers sitting close by. I'm awaiting shipment of the amp, feet and speaker terminals to finish up.

If anyone wants to see a pic of paint drying, I could snap one.

kjlewie
post #336 of 415
You should try some recovery software. I was able to recover some files, almost all of them, from a disk that was corrupt.
post #337 of 415
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You should try some recovery software. I was able to recover some files, almost all of them, from a disk that was corrupt.

Yep - most photography buffs have ways to make "dead" cards talk.
post #338 of 415
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Good idea. However, my wife reformatted the card, so if it wasn't blank before, it is now. I just snapped these.

Here are the boxes as they dry.





Wasn't that exciting?
post #339 of 415
Very Cool KJ.. They look sweet!! I love watching paint dry.
What will you power those guys with?
Will you set those up as side or down firing?

Brad
post #340 of 415
Those look really good!
post #341 of 415
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Thanks Brad and John.

Both subs will be powered by eD's 1300w amp. They will be sealed and side/front firing.
post #342 of 415
KJ,

After the meet last weekend, I had to go through your build thread... and finally made it to the end. You sure make it look easy for a guy who can't program his remote Really though, your setup is quite impressive... it's the best back-lit AT treatment I've seen, and I love the scope screen. Definitely something for me to strive to. A personal thanks for hosting and organizing the meet... had a great time.
post #343 of 415
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IMF,

Thanks for the kind words - we really enjoy the room quite a bit. The meet was a great time - lots of pics in the meet thread. There is even one with you sizing up deewan's gigantic Statements. I'm looking forward to a DM meet.

I should clarify that I have successfully programed the remote to do everything I want in one way or another, sort of. My problem is I haven't figured out how to combine all the steps very well so I can avoid entering the device menu for lighting control or aspect ratio changes - need to do some studying.
post #344 of 415
Great build. I really, really, like the diamond shaped carpet. It looks awesome with the brown leather.
post #345 of 415
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IMF,

I should clarify that I have successfully programed the remote to do everything I want in one way or another, sort of. My problem is I haven't figured out how to combine all the steps very well so I can avoid entering the device menu for lighting control or aspect ratio changes - need to do some studying.

It's not your fault, I think the Harmony programming interface is terrible.
post #346 of 415
Here is a real mans interface!

post #347 of 415
That's exactly what I'd like to have. Too bad their remotes cost so much
post #348 of 415
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Great build. I really, really, like the diamond shaped carpet. It looks awesome with the brown leather.

Thanks - we really like it too.

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It's not your fault, I think the Harmony programming interface is terrible.

They don't make it easy, that's for sure.

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Here is a real mans interface!


Is that screen shot for programming a remote or launching a rocket?
post #349 of 415
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Here is a real mans interface!




And this is why, years ago, I went into networking instead of programming!
post #350 of 415
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Is that screen shot for programming a remote or launching a rocket?

I believe that was used to program just the big red launch button for the shuttle.


post #351 of 415
Kj, if you have some questions on how to do specific things with your Harmony let me know. You can ask here or in the remote area of the forum many will help to get you where you need to be. When it's finally tweaked right you will seldomly need to go into devices (rather).

I'm pretty proficient with my Harmony and I'm just getting the 1100 which I got for Christmas just right.
post #352 of 415
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I'm pretty proficient with my Harmony and I'm just getting the 1100 which I got for Christmas just right.

This is a perfect example of why I hate their interface. A very experienced user took almost 2 months to program his new remote to his liking. Oman321, I'm not picking on you, I feel the same way. It is really easy to get the harmony to do 85% of what I want in a short amount of time. It is getting it that last 15% which seems to take forever. Also every time I add or remove a component, it is like starting over

Sorry to hijack your thread KJ.
post #353 of 415
I hear ya guamguam. I have had issues with the way Logitech has been handling their Harmony line, what can I say though it was a gift and overall I love the gift. I will say that I have a very unusual setup and the Mrs. starts going a little stir crazy when she see's that I'm updating things on the remote so I have to do a little bit at a time.

I made a comment to the Mrs. about their commercials how they make seem like your average joe can do it and for the most part they can, but they will never the full functionality out of it unless they dig deep and get support from forums like this one.

Early on I made the mistake of removing a device from a couple of activities 1st and then added a new device and it totally ruined all my settings for those activities and it was like starting over. What I discovered now is that if you add the new device first to your activity and then run thru the wizard and eliminate the functions of the old device it is much better and you can simply delete that device afterwards.
post #354 of 415
From what I've heard, Logitech customer service is very helpful, they'll even create custom commands for you. Love my Harmony, it does just about everything I throw at it.... Minus putting the seat down.
post #355 of 415
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Originally Posted by oman321 View Post

Kj, if you have some questions on how to do specific things with your Harmony let me know. You can ask here or in the remote area of the forum many will help to get you where you need to be. When it's finally tweaked right you will seldomly need to go into devices (rather).

I'm pretty proficient with my Harmony and I'm just getting the 1100 which I got for Christmas just right.

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Originally Posted by guamguam View Post

This is a perfect example of why I hate their interface. A very experienced user took almost 2 months to program his new remote to his liking. Oman321, I'm not picking on you, I feel the same way. It is really easy to get the harmony to do 85% of what I want in a short amount of time. It is getting it that last 15% which seems to take forever. Also every time I add or remove a component, it is like starting over

Sorry to hijack your thread KJ.

O, I need to spend some time and jump back on the Harmony thread as I suspect most of my device questions have been asked and answered there - thanks for the reminder as that is a very good source. Also, I have to stop being so comfortable using it at 85% and I may actually get the last 15% programmed. But, you know how it is...once the movie starts...

No worries, not a hijack in my mind. This is good stuff. The 900 is quite capable and I should be using it more in line with its potential. I'm thinking of things like when I select "Listen to music" the speaker lights raise.

It is revealing that someone as proficient as oman is still tweaking his 1100. Based on relative proficiency and by my fuzzy calculations, I should have my 900 fully tweaked by Valentine's Day...2011
post #356 of 415
The Harmony line of remotes is designed to close the gap between the "custom installer programmed remotes" and the "universal" remote that the cable company provides. It does that and does it well. While it has the ability to do many custom functions, that is not its primary intentions. This is why the average Joe can set it up rather quickly and easily. He has 4-5 devices (TV, cable/sat, DVD/BD, AVR, and maybe a game console) and is looking for one remote to handle all those functions and make it easier to control. The interface is made to cater to this group. It is NOT designed for full fledged control and they don't market it that way. You can do a lot with it, but it will take some time to figure out how.
post #357 of 415
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From what I've heard, Logitech customer service is very helpful, they'll even create custom commands for you. Love my Harmony, it does just about everything I throw at it.... Minus putting the seat down.

Yes customer support is helpful and polite, but it aint what it used to be. You are now limited to 90 days of support when you buy one of their products, whereas I could talk to someone whenever I had a problem before well after my purchase. After 90 days it is $29.00 to buy a support ticket.

Also tier 1 support is nice and they are usually as helpful as they can possibly be and will add commands and do whatever else they can. If they couldn't handle something and your problem still required further assistance they would transfer you to level 2 support. Now if you need level 2 support, they tell they will call you back. Initially I was told I would get a call back in 24hours, tick, tock, tick, tock. Six days later they finally call me back.

Then the 2nd time I needed a call back from support I requested them to call my cell as I knew they would call while I was at work. Nope they call me at home of course. We exchange a couple of emails, they promise to try me back and never do. Then to add insult to injury, they send one final email saying we haven't heard from you for 120 hours, so we assume your all set....Then they send me a survey of how was their service???
post #358 of 415
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Then they send me a survey of how was their service???

Did you complete the survey? If so, did Harmony respond?

I recall getting a survey asking how I liked the remote before I had even taken it out of the box. Never gave it a second thought until now. I was too busy playing with new toys to take a survey.
post #359 of 415
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The Harmony line of remotes is designed to close the gap between the "custom installer programmed remotes" and the "universal" remote that the cable company provides. It does that and does it well.

This is why I chose the 900. I just need to spend some time deciding what additional tasks I want from the activities and then figure out how to add them without disrupting the functionality of the primary activity...or something like that.
post #360 of 415
You better believe I responded. I layed out how everything was handled and how I pretty much had to resolve my issues on my own. No, they never replied.

Fair warning about the 900 (& the 1100)kj. It does not do sequences litke the rest of their line up. So if you want to do multi button commands with one press you have to go about it a different way.

So if you want to press play and have the lights turn off or dim & play your movie you will have to teach the remote a new command. If you have a PS3 or Blu ray player I would teach that type of command (Play, pause, stop scenarios) to that device. When you title the command do not use characters such as & or /. This causes the remote to not learn the command even though it says it did.

I title mine "Play lights off" and teach the "play" button to that command. Once it shows in your list of commands, you now have to click custom on the bottom right of that same screen. This will bring you into the RAW mode which makes it easier for the remote to learn multiple button presses. You check off the command in question and to the right of it click learn, then use the original remotes to quckly press play and lights off (or whichever scene you want).

If you don't have the original remotes for something get a cheap $10 learning remote which you can teach from the harmony first. Sometimes the cheap learning remotes can be taught multiple button presses, which can make it easier to teach the harmony.
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