"The Dark Knight" PQ issues. - Page 6  

There are scenes in this film that are clearly tier 0 IMHO. I see no issues at all with this encode and it looks exactly like it did in the theater when I saw it. What more can you ask? If there is some EE added during the IMAX process, it is on the master and should be on the encode. Sit back and enjoy the film rather than getting obsessed over minor issues with EE. This really a great looking film and it sounds even better. I can say without hesitation that 99 % of the people who purchase this title on BD will be thrilled with the picture.

Yes.

I never understood all that garbage about BB. It always looked phenomenal to me....Well, maybe the one explanation were the bit-rate ogres and spec mongers trying to say there wasn't enough bandwidth back when HD DVD was still around. Funny, how when movies were re-released with the format that allowed higher bitrate, the differences weren't there, huh?

To this day, BB is still one of my favorite high def titles. I'm not disagreeing with the reviews of DK here yet, because I haven't seen it...but after all the trash talking with BB, I'll take all the comments with a stockpile of salt.

Some people are already saying it's been "laiden" with EE, DNR, MSG, PCBs, etc....and some are saying it's top of tier 1...I guess, why should this title be any different than all the others reviewed?

Can't wait to get my copy.

Not so funny, considering that Warner chose to port the HD DVD encode of BB to BD.

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The good thing is for those lucky enough to get their disc earlier, you'll have the chance to complain to Mr. Nolan himself via the BD-Live chat feature

I didn't mean just that title, I meant in general. There are others like Transformers that got a higher bitrate encode, and people couldn't see the difference. Diminishing returns strike again.

All that's beside the point, I was just using it as an example as to why some people tried to trash BB. To this day, I still believe it's one of the better high def titles around.

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If you read the quote I had from American Cinematographer, they did do this for the 35mm release viz. scanned the 65mm Imax frame at 8K and then framed it for 35mm scope based on edit decisions made by the director and editor. For a true Imax presentation, the AR changed from scene to scene (the shots of HK from the air were pretty spectactular in Imax).

Presumably for a BD with 50G on it, they could put both versions on the disc or make a two disc presentation; one in scope all the way (as seen in the regular theatres) and one with AR changes, as seen in Imax theatres. Guess it was to do with cost and/or artistic intent.

Does it change aspect ratios any way you view it?

aaaand WB strikes again, with another nasty digital looking transfer of the biggest movie of 08

Interesting. No surprise if it came down to cost. One would think that since the majority of people would have seen it in a non-IMAX presentation, that would be the framing they'd use.

It does open the door, though, for the future Super-Duper-Choose-Your-Ratio-Branching-Version double dip.

Don't these studios know that TV's have a sharpness slider already?

You've seen it already?

And who here said it's nasty-looking?

Wow.

I see the screencaps, and they tell me all I need to know.

Some ridiculous people around here have this really absurd notion that, I don't know, actually watching a movie, and not just looking at a few screenshots, is the best way to judge the PQ of a movie.

Weird.

Of course not, and you can still enjoy a butchered release.

The screens always look exactly like the disk when i see them on here and then watch something.

in HD things like EE and DNR become more apparent and annoying than on regular DVD's, at least to me.

That's fine. But I'm going to go ahead and be really unreasonable and actually wait to watch the movie before basing my opinion of its PQ on a few screenshots.

I guess you should feel lucky that all these reviews and a few screenshots saved you the money you would have wasted on this obviously horrible release. Phew!

Generally to me DNR is even MORE apparent when actually watching the disc than it is in screenshots.

This group is hardly representative of the general video purchasing public. I suspect if they had released a scope originated version only, then apart from the complaining about alleged EE, there would have been an equal chorus of complaints about why didn't the BD have the Imax framing in those key sequences!

I concur with those who saw EE on the IMAX print. I also saw the film four times in 35mm, and there was no EE on the regular prints.

Are you speaking in generalities, or are you talking about some supposed DNR in this release?

They'll still look nasty and sharpened in motion. There's no good reason this can't look as good as the POTC movies, but it doesn't.

Looks like they even added a slight bit of EE to the IMAX shots for some unholy reason... the BB version looks a bit more natural to my eyes.

maybe the color or the lighting???? not sure

I'm talking in general. Dark City is an example. I have not seen TDK yet.

Look, like I said, feel free to buy and love the heck out of the movie, that's fine, and I'm glad that so many will. But, still, recognize the problems and flaws of something. Heck, even write to WB and tell them you find it inadequate. You can still love the flick even while doing so.

Pretending the people who are vocal about the flaws are nuts doesn't change anything.

Agreed 100%! Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If they had released the non-IMAX framing, just as many people would have screamed bloody murder that OAR(s) weren't used.

But like death and taxes, complaints about DNR and EE, perceived or otherwise, are still a given.

As are responses that "It looks just fine to me. What are you complaining about? Some people are never satisfied."

I was expecting only a top tier 1 presentation and from what I'm reading that seems to be about where it sits. I don't know why people expected Warner to have a tier 0 masterpiece...you have to rely on Universal for those kinds of things. Thank you to everyone who sent me a PM though and where to get this early. Its very appreciated as I loved this movie.