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post #1261 of 1454
8/28/10 at 1:09pm
More Austin Powers than James Bond.

If they had someone other than Watson running the SSers, they might be considered less of a joke and be taken seriously.
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post #1262 of 1454
8/28/10 at 1:55pm
Comparison to "James Bond" is definitely overselling the SS's.
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post #1263 of 1454
8/28/10 at 4:58pm
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Originally Posted by Ericglo View Post

Ummmm, ok! I guess you have never been in the military. Maybe the US should hire this crew to win the war in Middle East.

I am a big supporter of our military and don't know why your even comparing them to the SS er's. Plus I'm pretty sure people in the military are trained to perform certain drills before they are assigned their mission at hand. But when you have just a bunch of ordinary citizens volunteering to just attempt some of these tactics, it takes guts and a lot of it. Yes the word War is in the title of the show and I don't consider them service members of any sort but that does not diminish the courage required to still even attempt all the things that they do not to mention the ones that turn out successful at that.
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post #1264 of 1454
8/28/10 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by Clmrt View Post

...The "Admiral", though...he acts like a three-year-old when the communications are down, tossing the phones across the desk. He's clueless about the procedure laid out by his own crewmember..."What's he doing now? What was that? Where are my pants?"

When Watson was voicing snide comments about crew members unable to successfully throw a line to the speed boat, I was hoping someone would say, "How about you giving it a go fat boy?"
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post #1265 of 1454
8/28/10 at 5:19pm
It's hard not to root for Pete Bethune though. If he was running the SSers, they may be better received by the public.
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post #1266 of 1454
8/29/10 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by Lodef View Post

Yes, time to give them their due. Lets face it, their doing stunts you only see in James Bond movies, only their real and being done in the most dangerous ocean in the world. Not bad for a hapless bunch of volunteers. As for Pete, not too many on this planet have a bigger set than he to do what he did, that's for sure. Looking forward to the special about him. This season is sure to bring in a record amount of donations for their cause with such a successful ending to this seasons campaign. And to think of all the setbacks in the beginning only to persevere in the end, I give them all the credit in the world because they truly believe what they are doing is a good thing and I happen to agree with that.

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Originally Posted by Lodef View Post

I am a big supporter of our military and don't know why your even comparing them to the SS er's. Plus I'm pretty sure people in the military are trained to perform certain drills before they are assigned their mission at hand. But when you have just a bunch of ordinary citizens volunteering to just attempt some of these tactics, it takes guts and a lot of it. Yes the word War is in the title of the show and I don't consider them service members of any sort but that does not diminish the courage required to still even attempt all the things that they do not to mention the ones that turn out successful at that.

You made it sound like they were these brave people taking heroic risks that not many people could accomplish. You then said Pete had a bigger sack then most anyone. I thought it was interesting considering how many in the military do things that dangerous and more every day.
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post #1267 of 1454
8/29/10 at 9:18pm
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Originally Posted by Ericglo View Post

You made it sound like they were these brave people taking heroic risks that not many people could accomplish. You then said Pete had a bigger sack then most anyone. I thought it was interesting considering how many in the military do things that dangerous and more every day.

Yes, people in the military are trained to do what they do hence why I would not feel it is fair to compare them to the SS er's. Pete is not, see the difference? You seem to want to quote me out of context. My comparison was to the average person, not the trained, skilled dedicated fighting soldier. If you feel what Pete did does not take courage, then maybe you have your own agenda that your trying to push across.
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post #1268 of 1454
8/30/10 at 9:20am
For this, at least, I can see where Lodef is coming from. My biggest problem with Watson is how he manipulates his doe-eyed volunteers who are clueless to the real risks involved. Watson will put them in harm's way without thinking twice about it. For them, when they do something courageous, it is more likely ignorance than courage.

OTOH, Pete seems to have a good grasp of the risks and consequences involved - then acts while trying to minimize the risks - or in spite of them. To me that would qualify as courageous, or at least ballsy.

IOW, blind obedience takes no balls, just a lack of brains. You need the brains to fully appreciate the risks in order to get credit for having the balls. Pete certainly has a pair.
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post #1269 of 1454
8/30/10 at 11:25am
I think the helicopter pilot explained things well. He mentioned how detailed and well thought-out Pete's plans were and how he listened to other's opinions (not Watson's, we can hope) and adjusted. One instance was the planned time of the boarding, like 3am or 4am. The pilot said he'd be the one having to go search for him and it would be dark. He told him to make it closer to daylight. I can see Bethun's dilemma there... Darker at 3-4 would make it easier for him to board. He also accepted that there's the chance that he'd "fall" and the jet-ski wasn't able to locate him, so he conceded going later.
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post #1270 of 1454
8/30/10 at 11:28am
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Originally Posted by mx6bfast View Post

I wonder how long until we see Alligator Wars? If you don't know what I am talking about, watch Swamp People.

There's no thread for that show yet ! I wonder how the animal-rights folks feel about that show.

If you've seen it, doesn't "Junior" remind you of the kid from Deliverance who plays the fiddle ?
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post #1271 of 1454
8/30/10 at 2:35pm
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There's no thread for that show yet ! I wonder how the animal-rights folks feel about that show.

If you've seen it, doesn't "Junior" remind you of the kid from Deliverance who plays the fiddle ?

I don't know how they feel, but I could only handle the one episode. Double-tap the damn things please. Are you really that hard up that you can't spare an extra bullet?
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post #1272 of 1454
8/31/10 at 5:28am
I didn't mean "Junior" in the post above, it's Jr's son (can't recall his name).

Also, on the most recent episode, Troy's "hired gun" took 15+ shots at a gator. Could you double-tap -- in that one spot they aim for -- a trashing, spinning gator that's most underwater ?
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post #1273 of 1454
9/1/10 at 6:39am
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Originally Posted by hall View Post

I didn't mean "Junior" in the post above, it's Jr's son (can't recall his name).

Also, on the most recent episode, Troy's "hired gun" took 15+ shots at a gator. Could you double-tap -- in that one spot they aim for -- a trashing, spinning gator that's most underwater ?

I'm talking about after they get it on the boat.

sorry for the side track - someone can start a new thread for Swamp People.

..... back to Whale Wars.
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post #1274 of 1454
9/1/10 at 11:30am
Anyone else thinking the guy that took over the Discovery headquarters building in MD is associated with the whaling industry?
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post #1275 of 1454
9/1/10 at 11:36am
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Originally Posted by Lodef View Post

Anyone else thinking the guy that took over the Discovery headquarters building in MD is associated with the whaling industry?


As soon as I heard he was Asian, I thought you might make that connection.

But I would doubt it since Discovery is probably one of the Japanese whaling industry's biggest allies.
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post #1276 of 1454
9/1/10 at 1:12pm
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Originally Posted by Lodef View Post

Anyone else thinking the guy that took over the Discovery headquarters building in MD is associated with the whaling industry?

Sounds like you are looking in the wrong direction here.

From an AP story:
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According to a story in The Gazette, which covers Montgomery County, Lee was arrested there in 2008 after throwing thousands of dollars in the air outside the building. Lee said he planned the protest because Discovery's programming had little to do with saving the planet.

At the trial, he said he began working to save the planet after being laid off from his job in San Diego. He said he was inspired by "Ishmael," a novel by environmentalist Daniel Quinn and by former Vice President Al Gore's documentary "An Inconvenient Truth."
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post #1277 of 1454
9/1/10 at 2:10pm
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Originally Posted by Shedrock View Post

Sounds like you are looking in the wrong direction here.

From an AP story:

This pages contains his demands.
http://savetheplanetprotest.com/

This is the result of fundamentalism mixed with a mental disorder. The Sea Shepherds have half of that equation.
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post #1278 of 1454
9/4/10 at 11:44am
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Originally Posted by Lodef View Post

Yes, people in the military are trained to do what they do hence why I would not feel it is fair to compare them to the SS er's. Pete is not, see the difference? You seem to want to quote me out of context. My comparison was to the average person, not the trained, skilled dedicated fighting soldier. If you feel what Pete did does not take courage, then maybe you have your own agenda that your trying to push across.

No, you said there weren't many on this planet that have the courage he does. I then pointed out a group of people and you responded with in comparison to non-trained people. Well, you should have made that clear.

As for someone with an agenda, that would be you not me. I only checked this out, because of all the traffic this thread seems to be getting. I found the show mildly humorous.
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post #1279 of 1454
9/4/10 at 9:44pm
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Originally Posted by Ericglo View Post

No, you said there weren't many on this planet that have the courage he does. I then pointed out a group of people and you responded with in comparison to non-trained people. Well, you should have made that clear.

As for someone with an agenda, that would be you not me. I only checked this out, because of all the traffic this thread seems to be getting. I found the show mildly humorous.

There are plenty in the military who are even trained that might not have been able to pull that off. I did not want to go there but since you keep harping on it, there you go. You seem to suggest that unless it is combat related, the word courage or a big set need not apply. I disagree. Seeing what you said in your last sentence, I feel I was right on the mark in my previous post.
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post #1280 of 1454
9/6/10 at 3:26pm
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Originally Posted by Lodef View Post

There are plenty in the military who are even trained that might not have been able to pull that off. I did not want to go there but since you keep harping on it, there you go. You seem to suggest that unless it is combat related, the word courage or a big set need not apply. I disagree. Seeing what you said in your last sentence, I feel I was right on the mark in my previous post.

Obviously I have an agenda. You caught me. I so care whether the Japanese get their whales or the Keystone Kops of the Sea stop them. Judging by the volume of my posts in this thread , I must be trying to influence someone.

I never suggested that you need to be in combat to courage or a big set. It was you who seemed to imply that this fearless and courageous crew with Pete especially are without peer. I just pointed out that there are plenty of people in the world that are just as if not more courageous. Hell, Bear Grylls has a bigger set than these guys, but I guess your now going to tell me he is trained for this.

Anyway, I am out. Good luck persuading the AVSers to jump on board with your position and start sending in those donations.
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post #1281 of 1454
9/6/10 at 4:03pm
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Originally Posted by Ericglo View Post

Obviously I have an agenda. You caught me. I so care whether the Japanese get their whales or the Keystone Kops of the Sea stop them. Judging by the volume of my posts in this thread , I must be trying to influence someone.

I never suggested that you need to be in combat to courage or a big set. It was you who seemed to imply that this fearless and courageous crew with Pete especially are without peer. I just pointed out that there are plenty of people in the world that are just as if not more courageous. Hell, Bear Grylls has a bigger set than these guys, but I guess your now going to tell me he is trained for this.

Anyway, I am out. Good luck persuading the AVSers to jump on board with your position and start sending in those donations.

No, I just don't like when people try and put words in my mouth as you did again in this post. I think I made my position perfectly clear and it is evident you have a problem with it. Anyhow, thanks for stopping by.
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post #1282 of 1454
9/6/10 at 5:16pm
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Originally Posted by gadianton View Post

This pages contains his demands.
http://savetheplanetprotest.com/

This is the result of fundamentalism mixed with a mental disorder. The Sea Shepherds have half of that equation.

Therein is the incredible irony that lodef would quickly grasp for the explanation that this guy must be representing a "revenge strike" from the Jpn whalers, when the reality is that the guy is actually the epitome of the kindred spirit of the SS's, altogether...just a slightly different cause and 1 step more "pro-active" in his measures.
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post #1283 of 1454
9/6/10 at 10:10pm
I thought the special on Pete was pretty good tonight. Sure could not have been easy for him being in prison as long as he was after being confined for almost a month on the ship. The thing that came across to me is that he really seems like a likable and down to earth guy which is how he describes the crew of the SS er's as and wanted to make sure they receive the credit on what they are trying to do down there instead of focusing on just himself. He ends it by saying he might return to the Antarctica because there is still unfinished business left. My hat goes off to him after what he has just been through to just even consider about ever going back. I stand by my statement in my original post about him.
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post #1284 of 1454
9/7/10 at 4:51am
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Originally Posted by Lodef View Post

I thought the special on Pete was pretty good tonight. Sure could not have been easy for him being in prison as long as he was after being confined for almost a month on the ship. The thing that came across to me is that he really seems like a likable and down to earth guy which is how he describes the crew of the SS er's as and wanted to make sure they receive the credit on what they are trying to do down there instead of focusing on just himself. He ends it by saying he might return to the Antarctica because there is still unfinished business left. My hat goes off to him after what he has just been through to just even consider about ever going back. I stand by my statement in my original post about him.

Yes there is a huge difference in him and "admiral" Watson. So what are the terms of his sentence, is it deferred for 5 years and then he has to go to prison for 2? I do agree it sounds like he wants to go back down there.
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post #1285 of 1454
9/7/10 at 4:53am
For those who don't follow this other than the show, it would have been nicer if Watson would have finished the story of why they kicked him out of SS but now that he's released, they "changed their mind".
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post #1286 of 1454
9/7/10 at 4:55am
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Originally Posted by mx6bfast View Post

So what are the terms of his sentence, is it deferred for 5 years and then he has to go to prison for 2? I do agree it sounds like he wants to go back down there.

Sounds to me like a "suspended sentence" here in the US and he's on probation for 5. Yes ? If, during the next 5 years, he breaks any Japanese law, he immediately will be jailed for the 2 years he was sentenced.
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post #1287 of 1454
11/30/10 at 3:07pm
Sea Stooges have another new ship. Looks like the Ady Gil's big brother.

http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/...y+in+godzilla/
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post #1288 of 1454
11/30/10 at 3:11pm
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Originally Posted by WaTaGuMp View Post

Sea Stooges have another new ship. Looks like the Ady Gil's big brother.

http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/...y+in+godzilla/

HOLY CRAP!!! That thing is huge! It's like the Ady Gil on Steroids.

I wonder where the Casino is?
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post #1289 of 1454
11/30/10 at 3:21pm
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Originally Posted by Rutgar View Post

HOLY CRAP!!! That thing is huge! It's like the Ady Gil on Steroids.

I wonder where the Casino is?

Lets see if they learned from the last ship of this type. I mean the other wasn't really very good out in the type of waves etc they get.
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post #1290 of 1454
12/1/10 at 5:47am
Yup, the money keeps pouring in. Just goes to show how Whale Wars has proved to be a public relations bonanza for them.
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