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post #1411 of 1454
7/9/12 at 12:05am
Doesn't it seem before something is about to happen the episode ends? Eeeeesh, it's Seinfeld all over again "the show about nothing" tongue.gif
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post #1412 of 1454
7/9/12 at 8:04am
I shouldn't admit this, but when the Japanese were swinging that hook and then the long pole, I thought that they could (should ?) use a (had to look this up) "pike hook" and puncture the inflatable boats. I do think the Japanese prefer things that will scare them or warn them away vs really doing something dangerous or to harm them. I mean, swinging that grappling hook would keep me away !! On the other hand, the guy ended up throwing it !!
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post #1413 of 1454
7/9/12 at 8:29am
I think the japanese should mount a few .50 cals onboard and protect their ship from these terrorists. What they put up with is absurd. And when they get boarded set them afloat in a dingy and tell the Sea sheepard to come get their refugees.
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post #1414 of 1454
7/9/12 at 9:02am
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Originally Posted by Rutgar View Post

And it appears they have outsmarted the SS'ers at every turn.
They seem to have thought of a LOT of scenarios or otherwise come up with solutions real quickly. Just like the SS's grand plan of putting the Aussies on board while still in AU waters. They were sure the Japanese would HAVE to stop and that the AU gov't would help. Well, the Japanese just kept going, didn't they ? And no doubt the backup ship made a beeline for them to take over tailing the Steve Irwin !! Once again, the ecstatic moods of the SS folks was quickly shot down !
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post #1415 of 1454
7/9/12 at 11:00am
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I think the japanese should mount a few .50 cals onboard and protect their ship from these terrorists. What they put up with is absurd. And when they get boarded set them afloat in a dingy and tell the Sea sheepard to come get their refugees.

International Maritime Law gives them the right to fire on the SS vessels and try to disable their rudder or engine. If unsuccessful, they are allowed to sink them.

But I can't even imagine how fast the SSers would high tail it out of there if just a single round was fired near any one of them - especially when they consider getting poked by a stick an indication that they are now in an all-out war.
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post #1416 of 1454
7/9/12 at 11:07am
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Originally Posted by Garrett Adams View Post

Shakespeare was right, Much Ado About Nothing.

Shakespeare's play was about trying to stop whale hunting?
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post #1417 of 1454
7/10/12 at 5:05am
Pretty soon these countries like Australia are going to get tired of wasting time on this nonsense.
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post #1418 of 1454
7/10/12 at 11:18am
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

International Maritime Law gives them the right to fire on the SS vessels and try to disable their rudder or engine. If unsuccessful, they are allowed to sink them.
But I can't even imagine how fast the SSers would high tail it out of there if just a single round was fired near any one of them - especially when they consider getting poked by a stick an indication that they are now in an all-out war.

Oh, I so wish that would happen. Just to see the look on the SSers' faces would be priceless.

On the other hand, that would pretty much end it, and we wouldn't get to witness all of the SSers failed attempts.

Though, I have to admit, I was surprised they got the three Aussies on-board.
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post #1419 of 1454
7/10/12 at 12:55pm
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Originally Posted by taz291819 View Post

Oh, I so wish that would happen. Just to see the look on the SSers' faces would be priceless.
On the other hand, that would pretty much end it, and we wouldn't get to witness all of the SSers failed attempts.
Though, I have to admit, I was surprised they got the three Aussies on-board.

We may end up not seeing it anyhow. This is a TV show, if ratings are going down, they will pull the plug.
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post #1420 of 1454
7/11/12 at 10:25am
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Originally Posted by WaTaGuMp View Post

We may end up not seeing it anyhow. This is a TV show, if ratings are going down, they will pull the plug.

Although I haven't seen any numbers for this current season, last season had good ratings. I would imagine Whale Wars will be around at least another season or two. Animal Planet is making another Whale Wars type show called Rhino Wars. I don't know when it will debut. Here is what the press release said about Rhino Wars:

"In spite of heroic efforts by South African anti-poaching units, rhino poachers still run rampant, and the carnage escalates. In 2011, nearly 400 rhinos were killed. Sickened by the slaughter and frustrated by the inability to stop it, a group of private game reserves plans direct action. In RHINO WARS (wt), they band together to try to take down the ruthless poachers by bringing in former U.S. Special Forces operatives. This specialized team hunts the poaching gangs and syndicates of the illegal rhino-horn trade who are slaughtering South Africa's rhinos in record numbers for vast profits."
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post #1421 of 1454
7/11/12 at 12:15pm
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Originally Posted by boltsfan21 View Post

Although I haven't seen any numbers for this current season, last season had good ratings. I would imagine Whale Wars will be around at least another season or two. Animal Planet is making another Whale Wars type show called Rhino Wars. I don't know when it will debut. Here is what the press release said about Rhino Wars:
"In spite of heroic efforts by South African anti-poaching units, rhino poachers still run rampant, and the carnage escalates. In 2011, nearly 400 rhinos were killed. Sickened by the slaughter and frustrated by the inability to stop it, a group of private game reserves plans direct action. In RHINO WARS (wt), they band together to try to take down the ruthless poachers by bringing in former U.S. Special Forces operatives. This specialized team hunts the poaching gangs and syndicates of the illegal rhino-horn trade who are slaughtering South Africa's rhinos in record numbers for vast profits."

I haven't seen any numbers either, but I have watched every episode, and its pretty boring. I could see this season having a huge drop.
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post #1422 of 1454
7/11/12 at 3:48pm
Yes, I suspect a lot of people will have given up watching based on the shows so far...
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post #1423 of 1454
7/11/12 at 5:31pm
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Yes, I suspect a lot of people will have given up watching based on the shows so far...

The Faroe Islands "campaign" certainly didn't help matters any. That was a waste of everyone involved's time.
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post #1424 of 1454
7/11/12 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted by boltsfan21 View Post

Although I haven't seen any numbers for this current season, last season had good ratings. I would imagine Whale Wars will be around at least another season or two. Animal Planet is making another Whale Wars type show called Rhino Wars. I don't know when it will debut. Here is what the press release said about Rhino Wars:
"In spite of heroic efforts by South African anti-poaching units, rhino poachers still run rampant, and the carnage escalates. In 2011, nearly 400 rhinos were killed. Sickened by the slaughter and frustrated by the inability to stop it, a group of private game reserves plans direct action. In RHINO WARS (wt), they band together to try to take down the ruthless poachers by bringing in former U.S. Special Forces operatives. This specialized team hunts the poaching gangs and syndicates of the illegal rhino-horn trade who are slaughtering South Africa's rhinos in record numbers for vast profits."

That sounds like a show I could get into. Never thought I'd be rooting for whalers until Whale Wars came around. Having a show where there are actual engagements by forces with the authority to enforce the law against violators (as opposed to illegally trying to enforce laws that don't exist) - might be a good palate cleanser after Whale Wars. Watching "Admiral" Watson and his clueless band trying to play pirate ship will continue to get old until the Japanese decide to finally drop the hammer.
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post #1425 of 1454
7/11/12 at 7:11pm
Check out this video with a Rhino.

http://video.huntingclub.com/video/Rhino-Kills-African-Buffalo#c=GD90CG033PGBKBQR&t=Rhino%20Kills%20African%20Buffalo
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post #1426 of 1454
7/11/12 at 7:14pm
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The Japanese are well within their rights to sink the SS vessels...
Just curious, but can they "sink" a ship the size of the Steve Irwin or Bob Barker by ramming them ? I presume they'd have to t-bone them to do the most damage. Then, how much damage would they do to their own ship ?
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post #1427 of 1454
7/12/12 at 7:30am
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Just curious, but can they "sink" a ship the size of the Steve Irwin or Bob Barker by ramming them ? I presume they'd have to t-bone them to do the most damage. Then, how much damage would they do to their own ship ?

They sure can, the SI even has stamps on it of the ships they claim to have rammed or sunk, unless they are gone with the new paint job.

http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&sa=X&pwst=1&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnso&tbnid=czE7i0ritlK1CM:&imgrefurl=http://www.afreeman.org/2010/01/29/you-might-find-some-fools-at-your-doorstep/&docid=bz08G-UpOKWPqM&imgurl=http://www.afreeman.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/seashepherd.jpg&w=640&h=425&ei=dN_-T4WzGYOw2wWWkLXcBA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1431&vpy=748&dur=363&hovh=133&hovw=200&tx=188&ty=72&sig=109295756516497772641&page=1&tbnh=133&tbnw=200&start=0&ndsp=39&ved=1t:429,r:37,s:0,i:193&biw=1920&bih=1050
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post #1428 of 1454
7/12/12 at 11:01am
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Originally Posted by hall View Post

Yes, I suspect a lot of people will have given up watching based on the shows so far...

I agree. Although I still watch, the shows have become so boring. Every little incident is stretched out between multiple episodes. The Faroe Islands campaign was extremely boring. I'd have to say, out of all the episodes from the last several years, the only one I found decent was when the SS's were looking for the missing Norwegians in Antarctica.
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post #1429 of 1454
7/12/12 at 11:10am
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

That sounds like a show I could get into. Never thought I'd be rooting for whalers until Whale Wars came around. Having a show where there are actual engagements by forces with the authority to enforce the law against violators (as opposed to illegally trying to enforce laws that don't exist) - might be a good palate cleanser after Whale Wars. Watching "Admiral" Watson and his clueless band trying to play pirate ship will continue to get old until the Japanese decide to finally drop the hammer.

Rhino Wars does sound way more interesting compared to Whale Wars. Like you said, we will get too see people enforcing real laws, not a group of whackos basically throwing rocks at a tank to somehow claim they are saving an animal species to justify their cause.
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post #1430 of 1454
7/12/12 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by hall View Post

Just curious, but can they "sink" a ship the size of the Steve Irwin or Bob Barker by ramming them ?

They sure could, but only if they are idiotic enough to attempt it.

The proper way would be high caliber gunfire - and lots of it. Just keep firing at the stern until they lose rudder control and/or sink. Pause to give them time to abandon ship if they are willing. Then lock them up in the brig until you get back to Japan.

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post #1431 of 1454
7/12/12 at 4:40pm

As long as we're piling  on I find the narrators voice somewhat smarmy at times. Similar to the voice work in political commercials.

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post #1432 of 1454
7/13/12 at 6:52pm
ROFL, next week is the season finale. Like I said earlier, looks like a colossal failure this season.
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post #1433 of 1454
7/13/12 at 7:39pm
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Originally Posted by WaTaGuMp View Post

ROFL, next week is the season finale. Like I said earlier, looks like a colossal failure this season.

Even in their "successful" seasons, the Japanese still harvest as many whales as they want. The SSers just like to claim any numbers under quota as whales saved. Even this year, the Japanese will probably only harvest about half of their legal quota - because that's all that's needed to fulfill demand.

... so in that sense, this season will be just as successful as past seasons despite never finding the whaling fleet.
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post #1434 of 1454
7/13/12 at 7:55pm
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

Even in their "successful" seasons, the Japanese still harvest as many whales as they want. The SSers just like to claim any numbers under quota as whales saved. Even this year, the Japanese will probably only harvest about half of their legal quota - because that's all that's needed to fulfill demand.
... so in that sense, this season will be just as successful as past seasons despite never finding the whaling fleet.

Well last season they stopped whaling early cause of the Sea Stooges. Granted demand could fit into that factor, but the reports made it seem like it was more so stopped from being harassed. Yes the Sea Stooges like to throw out statements that make them feel like they really did do something good. Not even finding the factory ship IMHO is the biggest failure so far for these idiots.
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post #1435 of 1454
7/14/12 at 11:23am
My wife, son and I watched last night. My son asked "has the prop foulers ever worked ?". He knew the answer, of course, but just wanted to make a point. Too bad the SS folks can't hear a 13-year old ridiculing them !

And as usual, one of the SS crew said it, "we can stop whaling today" or something along those lines. After so many setbacks, any sane person has to lose confidence, do they not ? Are SS or these animal-rights fanatics just that delusional ?
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post #1436 of 1454
7/14/12 at 3:36pm
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Originally Posted by WaTaGuMp View Post

Well last season they stopped whaling early cause of the Sea Stooges.

They said that hoping that at least Watson's donors would be dumb enough to believe it. Watson has too big an ego not to proclaim victory. But I do suspect he wasn't dumb enough to believe that they actually forced them to shut down, especially since they have been completely ineffectual against the whaling fleet.

But by getting Watson to claim victory, I'd wager the Japanese severely reduced the SS fundraising in the offseason.
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post #1437 of 1454
7/16/12 at 12:09pm
I wonder if they asked the helicopter pilot who screwed the season the first episode to leave or if he did it voluntarily. Shoot even I could tell it was the Nissan on tv.
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post #1438 of 1454
7/16/12 at 6:57pm
Yeah It was pretty sad I'm sure a lot of people were at home yelling at the pilot about not being able to tell what ship it was. I was surprised that the camera man didn't say anything.
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post #1439 of 1454
7/17/12 at 1:08pm
What irritates me is all the hogwash drama that the SS'ers try to drudge up. Like the dude that took the shot to the face, and the doctor said something along the lines of how serious it was, and she would have to check up on him in 20 minutes to make sure there was no serious brain damage. Yeah, whatever.

Also, when the helo pilot lost radio communication with the ship, I don't remember them trying to contact him via the satellite phone. Of course not, but they show all of their worried faces, and talk about how he possibly crashed.
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post #1440 of 1454
7/17/12 at 6:51pm

There was another slight-of-hand when the pilot said he was returning to the Steve Irwin. Right after that there was a close-up of the fuel gauge showing about one quarter tank, which indicated extreme danger of falling into the sea. In reality that pilot was not gong to fly beyond the point of no return. The quarter tank was proof he had flown at least half-way back.

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