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post #331 of 1454
You know, when they tried making that grappling hook, why didn't they simply make some type of "slingshot" to get the bottles over the nets?
post #332 of 1454
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Originally Posted by WaTaGuMp View Post

The Dutch should not let them carry their flag, then they ARE pirates, muuuuuuahahaahahaha.

If they did that it couldn't be long before the Japanese sunk them. Since the rules and regulations are less strict when it comes to pirates than a ship sailing under a country's flag.
post #333 of 1454
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Originally Posted by taz291819 View Post

You know, when they tried making that grappling hook, why didn't they simply make some type of "slingshot" to get the bottles over the nets?

I told my wife they need one of those cannons that they have at games that shoots t-shirts into the crowds.
post #334 of 1454
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Originally Posted by -sweetness- View Post

If they did that it couldn't be long before the Japanese sunk them. Since the rules and regulations are less strict when it comes to pirates than a ship sailing under a country's flag.

Thats fine, they should sink them, then go rescue them, take them aboard the ship then tell them they will return them to port after they are done whaling.
post #335 of 1454
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Originally Posted by taz291819 View Post

You know, when they tried making that grappling hook, why didn't they simply make some type of "slingshot" to get the bottles over the nets?

How could you expect that level of ingenuity from a crew with a leader that looks as smart as the banjo player from deliverance and whose new strategy is to shoot flares at the japanese ships..
post #336 of 1454
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Originally Posted by WaTaGuMp View Post

The Dutch should not let them carry their flag, then they ARE pirates, muuuuuuahahaahahaha.

That seems to already be in the works...I hope it doesn't affect future seasons of this show because I love watching these fools!

This is from June 30th:

"The Netherlands wants to ban the controversial anti-whaling organisation Sea Shepherd from sailing under the Dutch flag. Public Works State Secretary Tineke Huizinga said Friday she wants to amend the law quickly to make this possible. The American organisation Sea Shepherd has two ships sailing under the Dutch flag. The Netherlands provided the necessary certificate of registry for this in 2007, after Sea Shepherd had promised in writing not to use violence and to comply with the safety rules. Nonetheless, a number of incidents have taken place between Sea Shepherd ships and Japanese whalers in the Antarctic. Japan has repeatedly complained to the Netherlands about the Sea Shepherd. It appears difficult at the moment to take action against ships that do not comply with the rules, so the cabinet wants to speedily extend its legal options for withdrawing certificates of registry, according to Huizinga."

http://www.indymedia.nl/nl/2009/06/60378.shtml
post #337 of 1454
For 17 Liberian dollars, and a commemorative Statue of Liberty Proof coin, they can fly the Red, White and Blue flag of Liberia - just like most of the cruise ships do. They don't give a crap what you do while flying their flag.
post #338 of 1454
Or Somali
post #339 of 1454
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Originally Posted by Rutgar View Post

Wow!?! You're whining about a little bottle rocket, and yet you think it's fair game that the Japanese target the Helicopter? Bartender! Give me what Vurbano's having!

FYI

He is going to lose his flag over it. The Copter is part of an attack.
post #340 of 1454
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Originally Posted by vurbano View Post

FYI

He is going to lose his flag over it. The Copter is part of an attack.

From what I've read, the Helicopter has nothing to do with whether or not he loses his flag.
post #341 of 1454
Well this week took stupidity even higher. They complained last week about the LRAD's then this week they clearly said that they didnt do anything but annoy them. So with that said why did they freak out last week about them pointing it at the heli? Next week looks like its gonna be good, they are going to start throwing stuff from their deck after being told they cant. Paul is just shooting himself in the foot week after week. I also like the one guy asking what they are doing there since the whalers are killing whales right in front of them now, I could of told you that you people are wasting your time.
post #342 of 1454
LOL. Marvin the Martian takes center stage this week!
post #343 of 1454
Red October. Red October. Halt and stay where you are. Do not attempt to submerge or you will be fired upon...
post #344 of 1454
Oh I forgot to talk about the FAKE LRAD's on the Steve Irwin, the whalers were probably laughing at them thinking they had Direct TV satellites and trying to calibrate them for better picture quality.
post #345 of 1454
It is entertaining but they're lacking in brain power. Clearly no strategic planning. And I'm so tired of hearing the one fella with that strong accent sounding like he's on ludes and marbles in his mouth. He's definitely a master of the obvious.
post #346 of 1454
Can we be sure the LRAD was fired? Couldn't there be post production audio added? That sound never seems to doppler, its on or off. I could be wrong.
post #347 of 1454
The boats are moving roughly the same relative speed to one another. Any differences in speed are minor and would hardly shift the frequency of the LRAD.

As far as the LRAD not being dangerous, don't be deceived. The harpoon ships aren't nearly as close to the Steve Irwin as they were to the helicopter. Sound is measured in watts/m^2. Therefore, if you double the distance the power drops by a factor of 4. As you can imagine, the effectiveness of the LRAD is heavily dependent on distance between the device and who or what it is pointed at.

I still can't stop watching this show. It is a slow motion trainwreck...
post #348 of 1454
If the Dutch don't revoke his registry, I'm done with them. I've purchased my last pair of wooden shoes.
post #349 of 1454
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Originally Posted by Rutgar View Post

From what I've read, the Helicopter has nothing to do with whether or not he loses his flag.

It doesnt. It was too seperate thoughts clumsily in one statement. The copter is part of his attacks. He will lose his flag for launching items off his ship.
post #350 of 1454
The whalers are humiliating the Steven Irwin now aren't they? It is embarassing to see just how insignificant they think their efforts are to stop whaling. This TV show is doing the complete opposite of what it set out to do right now... it is hard to watch and not laugh. I just wish the Whales didn't have to suffer as a result.
post #351 of 1454
As good as this episode was, it looks like next week will be the climax because they appear to have finally snapped after seeing whale blood and any sense of rational ( what little there was) from the Sea Sheperds crew seems to be gone. The Japanese better be wary of them because in that state of mind, they are very dangerous both to themselves and all others.
post #352 of 1454
I'm sure the LRAD has different power levels, the Japanese are merely trying to "annoy" them, and it's working.

I laughed at two specific parts, one, when the Zodiac was trying to get onboard the the Steve Irwin, and the Japanese still used the LRAD on them, they weren't letting up. And secondly, when the Sea Sheperds tried using the satellite dishes as fake LRADs. Seriously, did they really think that was going to work?

Also, it was pretty dangerous, and more importantly stupid of Paul to fire flares at the ship while the helicopter was near it. If I were that pilot, I would have bitch-slapped Paul after I landed, especially after the whole "I don't know what he's talking about" comment. I'm losing more and more respect for the ex-Navy gal, it seems she's now almost totally brain-washed by Paul.

And unfortunately, a couple of whales are going to die, but doing it in front of the Sea Sheperds is priceless.
post #353 of 1454
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Originally Posted by taz291819 View Post

I'm sure the LRAD has different power levels, the Japanese are merely trying to "annoy" them, and it's working.

It most likely does, but don't underestimate how rapidly the power of the device diminishes with range. Even when those ships were cutting cookies there was easily 100m or more between them.
post #354 of 1454
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Originally Posted by taz291819 View Post


Also, it was pretty dangerous, and more importantly stupid of Paul to fire flares at the ship while the helicopter was near it. If I were that pilot, I would have bitch-slapped Paul after I landed, especially after the whole "I don't know what he's talking about" comment. I'm losing more and more respect for the ex-Navy gal, it seems she's now almost totally brain-washed by Paul.

I had a fellow pilot and his passenger killed in a helicopter accident in the military when a signal flare was fired, hit the rotor system and lodged in the main transmission cowling area. Lot's of magnisium parts in aircraft and if you've ever seen that stuff catch on fire you'll appreciate why you wouldn't want to be in the air over the ocean and see that anywhere near your aircraft. True idiots.
post #355 of 1454
The thing that kills me about the Sea Sheperds is the bravado about what they are going to do...WWE tough...willing to give their lives, etc. Then when the 'battle' starts a three stich cut to someones eye lid will be put them down and running back to shelter. 'I'm willing to die, but don't throw those metal nuts at me'....as phony a bunch of crusadors as I've ever seen.
post #356 of 1454
If they would switch to Dish Network HD 1000 dishes they would for sure full the Japanese into thinking they had LRAD'S, and also save money on the monthly fees.
post #357 of 1454
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Originally Posted by WaTaGuMp View Post

If they would switch to Dish Network HD 1000 dishes they would for sure full the Japanese into thinking they had LRAD'S, and also save money on the monthly fees.

Yes, another example of the 'total commitment' to the cause. Try to fake the whalers out and make them think 'we have a LRAD too' when anyone with a pair of binoculars could see it's a sat dish. How pathetic. This crew should take up the cause of keeping the crows out of my uncles corn fields. I think they already have the outfits...and brains.
post #358 of 1454
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Originally Posted by rotohead View Post

The thing that kills me about the Sea Sheperds is the bravado about what they are going to do...WWE tough...willing to give their lives, etc. Then when the 'battle' starts a three stich cut to someones eye lid will be put them down and running back to shelter. 'I'm willing to die, but don't throw those metal nuts at me'....as phony a bunch of crusadors as I've ever seen.

Your kidding me right? Yes we can call the Sea Sheperd crew a lot of things but being cowards is certainly not one of them. The stunts they try may not be effective and can seem down right inept at times but that does not mean they are any less dangerous. The crews in the speed boats and the heli pilot especially, know with just the slightest mistake they might not be coming back and that alone shows a lot of guts in my book. Hell, not to mention they are in the Antarctic Ocean on a ship that they know is not approved for ice breaking surfaces proves a lot of moxy in and of itself. Sure it is easy to root against them but give credit where credit is due, ball-less they are not!
post #359 of 1454
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Originally Posted by Lodef View Post

Your kidding me right? Yes we can call the Sea Sheperd crew a lot of things but being cowards is certainly not one of them. The stunts they try may not be effective and can seem down right inept at times but that does not mean they are any less dangerous. The crews in the speed boats and the heli pilot especially, know with just the slightest mistake they might not be coming back and that alone shows a lot of guts in my book. Hell, not to mention they are in the Antarctic Ocean on a ship that they know is not approved for ice breaking surfaces proves a lot of moxy in and of itself. Sure it is easy to root against them but give credit where credit is due, ball-less they are not!

I agree and disagree. Yes, they have courage, but only from a certain stand-point. Once you get them in the line of fire, they start to question things, which makes them unreliable.

The problem isn't them per say, it's that they haven't been trained. For instance, you can take the "baddest" gang bangers from Compton and put them in Iraq, and guess what, they'd fold like a bunch of "bitchy little girls" (sorry for the Burn Notice reference). But it's true. If you aren't trained properly, you can talk a lot on camera.

Honestly, if the crew were as hard-core as they say they are, "willing to die for the whales" and all, they would have tried to seriously take out one of the Japanese ships by now. Not this little, try and foul the prop stuff....
post #360 of 1454
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Originally Posted by Lodef View Post

Your kidding me right? Yes we can call the Sea Sheperd crew a lot of things but being cowards is certainly not one of them. The stunts they try may not be effective and can seem down right inept at times but that does not mean they are any less dangerous. The crews in the speed boats and the heli pilot especially, know with just the slightest mistake they might not be coming back and that alone shows a lot of guts in my book. Hell, not to mention they are in the Antarctic Ocean on a ship that they know is not approved for ice breaking surfaces proves a lot of moxy in and of itself. Sure it is easy to root against them but give credit where credit is due, ball-less they are not!


No...they are ball-less. I really hope they show a couple guys on their crying...it will make my day. bunch or gutless pansies. If they want to save these whales, they'd find something better to do than use sat. dishes and little bottles of smelly stuff. give me a break...wonder how much they are all getting paid for this stuff. I mean c'mon...the LRAD makes an annoying sound...the dish does nothing...how can you even attempt to try and fool them. phonies!!
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