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post #691 of 973
Just bought an Infocus x10. Using the remote control I can either switch on or switch off the projector but its not responding to any of the other button on the remote control like source, auto image or menu button. Does anybody have an idea whats wrong here? I tried connecting my DVD players using HDMI, component or composite ports but its not detecting any signals even after pressing the SOURCE and AUTO IMAGE button many times. All I can see is the Red INFOCUS screen after power on.
post #692 of 973
It sounds like a defective remote. Does the backlight come on when other buttons are pressed? That issue has surfaced before. I would contact Infocus for a replacement.
post #693 of 973
Thanks for the quick response. Yes the backlight comes on when I press other buttons like source or auto image etc. Do you remember you heard something of that sort before?
post #694 of 973
Yes, those are the symptoms others have reported in this thread. I believe one person opened the remote and fixed it while another got a replacement. You'll have to read through the thread for specifics. The remote from my IN76 worked on the X10, so if you have a remote that has a code for the IN series it should work with the X10.
post #695 of 973
Now that i have both x 10 and in 76 they use the same remote is there any way to set it up so one remote works one projector and the other remote the other. That way i wont be turning on both projectors ant the same time. thanks
post #696 of 973
After reading the entire 24 pages of this thread..Ive learned a lot about the x10 projector I was set on and waiting for the Infocus sp8602 which was gonna come in september now its october and I may not even get one from the first batch and football season is just around the corner..


I need to make up a 10 inch vertical offset can a combination of keystoning plus the projector tilt/screen tilt be used. I will be using a 110 " screen throw distance is between 14 feet and 18 feet how much image quality would suffer if I made the adjustments of 10" vertical with keystoning alone.
post #697 of 973
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Originally Posted by sargeant View Post

After reading the entire 24 pages of this thread..Ive learned a lot about the x10 projector I was set on and waiting for the Infocus sp8602 which was gonna come in september now its october and I may not even get one from the first batch and football season is just around the corner..


I need to make up a 10 inch vertical offset can a combination of keystoning plus the projector tilt/screen tilt be used. I will be using a 110 " screen throw distance is between 14 feet and 18 feet how much image quality would suffer if I made the adjustments of 10" vertical with keystoning alone.

I don't recall specifically where, but i believe in the early part of this thread (first 4 or 5 pages) one x10 owner graciously created a spreadsheet to determine the offset. IIRC it also determined how much offset could be, well, offset (for lack of a better word) by tilting the projector 1,2,3 degrees etc. If the spreadsheet didn't determine that then it was the spreadsheet creator who helped me with that.

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post #698 of 973
Has anyone compared the X10 image quality to the viewsonic pro8100? and has the longer throw distance of the X10 hiden the fan noise? I have the optoma hd65 and it sits just over my head, the fan noise is a little bothersome.
post #699 of 973
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Originally Posted by streetcredit View Post

Has anyone compared the X10 image quality to the viewsonic pro8100? and has the longer throw distance of the X10 hiden the fan noise? I have the optoma hd65 and it sits just over my head, the fan noise is a little bothersome.

I had the HD65. The X10 is less noisy.
post #700 of 973
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Originally Posted by anirbana View Post

I had the HD65. The X10 is less noisy.

Did you find that there was a big difference in image quality?
post #701 of 973
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Did you find that there was a big difference in image quality?

Substantial. Even my wife noticed it and for the first time she said this is premium quality. She didn't notice any difference between H27, IN72 and HD65 and always wondered why I keep upgrading. But with the IN80 (X10 variant) She was at awe...

I have had 5 DLP PJS so far. The IN72 was the best 480p PJ. The Optoma H27 was better in blacks though.

I really enjoyed the HD65 and you can browse the HD65 forum where i posted many screenshots and used to think why ppl buy expensive PJs when thsi can offer such a quality.

But after having the IN80 and now the X10, I know what the difference is.

The first thing that hits you on the X10 against the HD65 is the colour fidelity and sharpness. If you like punchy colors HD65 will be good for you but if you like natural colors the X10 is miles ahead. Use the IRIS and you will be amazed.

I don't have the IN80 (X10+) with me anymore and I have posted many shots before here. The following shots are from IN81 (DC2). You will get similar colors but with slightly less contrast and slightly higher black level. (Somehow it is my monitor or my camera which adds a pink tone which is not there in the image. The real image is flawless to me in terms of colors. I never enjoyed this qulaity from the HD65 and didn't expect also since it was a budget PJ. But honeslty for it's price the HD65 was fantastic. But once you move up you know what you are missing. I have posted many shots in the HD65 thread using the same camera and same equipments. You will notice the difference even in so called screenshots.










post #702 of 973
I have seen many shots that you have posted in the past.They have helped me a lot even though I have not bought the an infocus yet I am just waiting for cedia to pass next week before I pull the trigger.

I wanted to ask you something my offset with the X10 works out to be that my image will be projected 21 inches below from the top of my ceiling..FOr me that is too low I wanted it to project at 11 inches my screen size will 110 inches and throw is 16 1/2 feet...
Can I make up this 10 inches by tilting the projector and than use key stoning to fix it will this ruin my projected image will I notice a lower quality image with a correction this big.....I wanted to avoid tilting my screen if i could.

Last question Ive been looking at the stats seems that the X10 is the loudest projector out there in normal mode stats show that its at 33db People usually complain about projector noise when its over 30 db with your x10 on silent movies or the quiet scenes was it irratating to watch.

Are you going to update to the SP8602 ?
post #703 of 973
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Originally Posted by ht bug View Post

I have seen many shots that you have posted in the past.They have helped me a lot even though I have not bought the an infocus yet I am just waiting for cedia to pass next week before I pull the trigger.

Thanks for your kind words. I do post many screenshots and glad you liked them. Don't go by screenshots since they are just a fractional representation of what you can see and since various different equipments are involved in the entire process of capturing and viewing, it does not represent the true image quality. In real they look much better.

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Originally Posted by ht bug View Post

I wanted to ask you something my offset with the X10 works out to be that my image will be projected 21 inches below from the top of my ceiling..FOr me that is too low I wanted it to project at 11 inches my screen size will 110 inches and throw is 16 1/2 feet...
Can I make up this 10 inches by tilting the projector and than use key stoning to fix it will this ruin my projected image will I notice a lower quality image with a correction this big.....I wanted to avoid tilting my screen if i could.

Keystoning is not bad actually, for film material you won't be able to notice much of a difference. I am snot sure if you would notice any difference with PC mode.

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Originally Posted by ht bug View Post

Last question Ive been looking at the stats seems that the X10 is the loudest projector out there in normal mode stats show that its at 33db People usually complain about projector noise when its over 30 db with your x10 on silent movies or the quiet scenes was it irratating to watch.
Are you going to update to the SP8602 ?

X10 in economy mode is not any louder than most DLPs in fact it is quiter than many and it makes a low frequency hmmmmm kind of noise which is only heard in very quiet scenes. I have used 5 DLPs before including the HD65 and IN72 and IN80/81/ X10 is the quietest of all and less distracting due to its low freq noise.

In high mode it is loud but you won't need it since it is very bright in eco anyway.

The SP8602 is the PJ everyone is looking forward to. if it offers better image quality than the IN83, many will opt for it as it offers many other interesting features incluidng a short throw lens.

Will I upgrade? only time will tell. As of now I am extremely happy with the IN81, it rocks.

Hope this helps.

Ani
post #704 of 973
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Originally Posted by ht bug View Post

I have seen many shots that you have posted in the past.They have helped me a lot even though I have not bought the an infocus yet I am just waiting for cedia to pass next week before I pull the trigger.

I wanted to ask you something my offset with the X10 works out to be that my image will be projected 21 inches below from the top of my ceiling..FOr me that is too low I wanted it to project at 11 inches my screen size will 110 inches and throw is 16 1/2 feet...
Can I make up this 10 inches by tilting the projector and than use key stoning to fix it will this ruin my projected image will I notice a lower quality image with a correction this big.....I wanted to avoid tilting my screen if i could.

Last question Ive been looking at the stats seems that the X10 is the loudest projector out there in normal mode stats show that its at 33db People usually complain about projector noise when its over 30 db with your x10 on silent movies or the quiet scenes was it irratating to watch.

Are you going to update to the SP8602 ?

Read through the thread. Keystoning as well as screen and projector tilt are both discussed (with pictures even). I'm eliminating ~10" of offset with a 3.5" tilt.

I haven't seen anyone really complain much about the noise in low power mode. If you mount it directly over the main seating you might notice it. In silent moments I can hear it if I try to. But it's no more distracting than the other projectors I've watched.
post #705 of 973
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Originally Posted by ht bug View Post

Can I make up this 10 inches by tilting the projector and than use key stoning to fix it will this ruin my projected image will I notice a lower quality image with a correction this big.....I wanted to avoid tilting my screen if i could.

I finally pulled the trigger and picked up the X10 last week (coming from an IN72 ... convinced the wife that since we were finishing the basement, I better get the HD projector now so I could run all the wires and such before drywall). I had it set-up for two days before it had to come down for the remodel. I had to use keystone correction and I really could not tell the difference. I know that technically the picture is degraded but my novice eyes could not tell. IMHO, I would not worry too much about having to use keystone correction, the picture you get is simply amazing ... even the wife notice the difference.

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Originally Posted by ht bug View Post

Last question Ive been looking at the stats seems that the X10 is the loudest projector out there in normal mode stats show that its at 33db People usually complain about projector noise when its over 30 db with your x10 on silent movies or the quiet scenes was it irratating to watch.

Maybe I am just easy to please but I didn't even notice the sound of the project and I was sitting directly under it. I also sat directly under the IN72 for years and never once thought about the noise from the projector. Again, IMHO, this should not deter you from purchasing the X10. From my short time with it, I think it is a great projector for a great price.

FYI ... this forum has been a huge help in deciding to purchase the X10, thanks to everyone that has taken the time to upload images and give their opinions.
post #706 of 973
I wish cedia was here today.....Benq w6000 has caught my eye 50000:1 contrast ratio wow, plus vertical lens shift..

Hard to walk away from a $1199 X10. Glad to see so many quick respones...A lot of pride in this infocus thread.

Well I am going with the 110 inch screen with this X10 as soon as cedia is over I hope I dont get distracted with the new projectors coming next week, grapevine tells me there some surprises more LED projectors are coming and with 60000 hours of life are coming...If these are here and they are under the 8k then I would get a LED instead of the x10.

Back to X10 which 110 "screen is best ?
draper onyx 110 inch
Da lite cinema vision
Carada brilliant white
Do the above screens have the same fabric will I notice a differance with an x10 between the screens ? Price is not an issue for me between these 3 I just want the best amongst them.
post #707 of 973
At 110" you will want a high contrast or grey screen to enhance black level. There is no need for a high gain screen with the light output this unit has unless you have major ambient light issues.
post #708 of 973
Are the black levels sub par with the x10 even if I use the iris.
post #709 of 973
Any suggestions on cleaning this machine - frequency, techniques, best practices?
post #710 of 973
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Originally Posted by sargeant View Post

Are the black levels sub par with the x10 even if I use the iris.

Black levels are fairly low when the iris is engaged. If it's still not dark enough the lens is threaded for use with a 72mm neutral density filter.
post #711 of 973
I'd love to know where the, "Black levels of the x10 are inferior" came from. It couldn't be from an owner. How many times must this be asked?

As for the noise, I sit directly under my X10 as well and in low lamp mode (what most seem to use anyhow) the projector is inaudible. At least mine is. Now in high power mode, I admit it's loud. Enough so to bother me, but I have no intent of running in high power mode so it's a non-issue to me. Fact is, there is so little difference in picture from low to high that I'm not sure why they bother. Probably to eat up bulbs I guess.

If people want the best projector money can buy, why not go spend accordingly instead of bashing this one that most owners are quite happy with.
post #712 of 973
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Originally Posted by sargeant View Post

I wish cedia was here today.....Benq w6000 has caught my eye 50000:1 contrast ratio wow, plus vertical lens shift..

Hard to walk away from a $1199 X10. Glad to see so many quick respones...A lot of pride in this infocus thread.

Well I am going with the 110 inch screen with this X10 as soon as cedia is over I hope I dont get distracted with the new projectors coming next week, grapevine tells me there some surprises more LED projectors are coming and with 60000 hours of life are coming...If these are here and they are under the 8k then I would get a LED instead of the x10.

Back to X10 which 110 "screen is best ?
draper onyx 110 inch
Da lite cinema vision
Carada brilliant white
Do the above screens have the same fabric will I notice a differance with an x10 between the screens ? Price is not an issue for me between these 3 I just want the best amongst them.

I have the da-lite HCCV (110" diagonal) which is silver/gray for better blacks and the gain is 1.1. Black levels are superior to my last projector (Infocus 5700) which I had little complaint. Right now I am using my old DVD player (a Marantz) which does not upscale standard DVD's. I am trying to borrow a blue ray player and see what it looks like with a good blue ray disk and upscaling for standard disks.

John
post #713 of 973
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Any suggestions on cleaning this machine - frequency, techniques, best practices?

To answer this poor fellow's question,

My X10 has gotton a tad louder in recent weeks, and hot weather has meant open windows and the ensuing dust, so I figured it might be a good idea to see if there were any filters, etc. that could use a cleaning. I took it down to have a look.

There are a few vents on the bottom (which is the top for mine because it's upside down) that had a fair bit of dust on them. I cleaned that with a vacuum cleaner, first with the soft brush attachment, then with the long, narrow corner attachment.

There's also a metal grill visible along one of the sides, in behind the plastic ridging. I gave it the same treatment, though I couldn't make out if there was much dust there to begin with.

I took out the lamp casing by unscrewing the two clearly marked screws on the access panel on the bottom, then by unscrewing the two Phillips screws holding the lamp assembly in place. Note that all screws should not be removed, but simply unscrewed, since you don't want to lose one of those little screws into the bowels of the projector. Carefully remove the lamp casing by pulling up on the small fold-up metal handle. There's a small metal filter in the lamp casing which I also gave the soft brush vacuum treatment, but that was pretty clean to begin with as well.

I also carefully put the long corner attachment of the vacuum cleaner up near the fan inside, which is visible once the lamp casing has been removed, and turned the vacuum cleaner on which set the fan spinning. I was careful not to let the vacuum attachment catch in the fan. I did about a minute of that.

I reassembled everything and voilÃ*, it does seem to be quieter. Note that this should be done when the lamp is well cooled down, and that you should of course avoid touching the lamp with your fingers. I don't know which part of the procedure had the most effect - I would venture to guess the first - but the result is an X10 which not only is a bit quieter, but on which hopefully the lamp will last a little longer.
post #714 of 973
Hi all I've just installed an X10 for a friend of mine today, I personaly have got an Optoma HD65 and as Anirbana has stated in a earlier post the X10 leaves HD65 for dead it's defo a step up I just wish I could fit it in my apartment I would go out tomorrow and get one

1 point I would like to say is that the distance calculator on the Infocus site was a bit off for me he's screen is 234cm x 132cm and the calculator put it at min 4.36m & max 5.22m from screen to lens well I put the lens at 4.45m and it was short I had to put it back another 20cm luckily he had the room to go back but just about though... another thing is the X10 is much quieter than HD65 if you've got the room it's a no brainer for me
post #715 of 973
My X10 is making a grinding sound whenever I am switching on the power from wall outlet. Post no 41 on page 2 mentions similar thing, and the next post states it is the sound of wheel starting. But the sound in my case is not a whirling sound. It sounds more like forcefully rotating a gear but in low volume. Is it normal?
post #716 of 973
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Originally Posted by atanuray View Post

My X10 is making a grinding sound whenever I am switching on the power from wall outlet. Post no 41 on page 2 mentions similar thing, and the next post states it is the sound of wheel starting. But the sound in my case is not a whirling sound. It sounds more like forcefully rotating a gear but in low volume. Is it normal?

Hi Atanu,

That sound is normal. It is there on X10/IN8X models. I think it is the automatic test of the Iris or something that is done at startup.

Regards

Ani
post #717 of 973
Thanks Anirbana for the assurance. And yes, the sound is like rapid movement of iris.
post #718 of 973
Something to think about when using air on fans. A fan is nothing more than an electric motor and electric motors when forced to turn become a generator. Probably this isn't an issue so much with a vacuum, but for those who clean out fans on their pj or even a computer, you do not want to spin fans with forced air. Motherboards don't like it, power supplies don't like it, it's just not a great idea. Not to mention that usually the bearings in the fans don't like it.

I do use a compressor to blow dust out of computer power supplies, cpu fans and such, but... I always stick something in the fan first to make certain it can't turn. This way, the bearings don't get spun at 300x normal rpms, and the voltage regulator circuit on the motherboard / ps doesn't have foreign current to deal with.

ps. Brushless fans are essentially a servo motor with a set of blades attached. servo motors or a variant of them are what is used for power generation (like on a windmill/hydroelectric waterwheel).
post #719 of 973
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Originally Posted by ricochet315 View Post

Jeff, I guess you have accurately described what I am observing in my PJ. In fact the realization that I may have a faulty PJ has sent chills down my spine as I ordered the X10 from Amazon and had it shipped via a courier to where I'm staying, the tropical paradise called the Philippines. Called TigerDirect just a few moments ago and was told they will have nothing to do in so far as the shipment cost from here to the great US of A. Oh, I'm in deep s**t.

I will try to find out on Monday whether the local distributor will honor the warranty here.

I just would like to issue an update on my case.

The local Infocus distributor in the Philippines, American Technologies Incorporated (ATI) has honored the international warranty of my X10. Though it took about a month to wait for the replacement part which came still from Singapore, all is well with my projector now. The shadow-like band of stripes is completely gone. The culprit has something to do with the HDMI input. I suggest that both the source and the X10 be unplugged during set-up, as the ATI engineer suggested, to avoid unwanted electrical surges that could damage the input/output circuitry.

Thanks to ATI.
post #720 of 973
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Originally Posted by ricochet315 View Post

I just would like to issue an update on my case.

The local Infocus distributor in the Philippines, American Technologies Incorporated (ATI) has honored the international warranty of my X10. Though it took about a month to wait for the replacement part which came still from Singapore, all is well with my projector now. The shadow-like band of stripes is completely gone. The culprit has something to do with the HDMI input. I suggest that both the source and the X10 be unplugged during set-up, as the ATI engineer suggested, to avoid unwanted electrical surges that could damage the input/output circuitry.

Thanks to ATI.

galing!

nice job man!
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