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post #61 of 430
His name is Heath Ledger (short for Heathcliff, named after the character in the classic novel WUTHERING HEIGHTS)), not Keith. That's why folks were wondering if it was a typo. For somebody who seems to be such a fan of his, it's odd that you don't know his real name.

And, while the tragedy of his death obviously helped spur additional interest in the film, it doesn't account for how much this movie made. Curiousity over his death could account for some of the opening weekend numbers, but well over $520-million in the U.S. alone over the long haul has to do with a lot more than that. The film connected with people, and it wasn't just because of Heath's great performance.

Vincent

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Originally Posted by kinglerxt View Post

Nope its not a type-o... They (Warner) will make a LOT of money off this film and it was because of Keith...
post #62 of 430
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Originally Posted by Vincent Pereira View Post

And, while the tragedy of his death obviously helped spur additional interest in the film, it doesn't account for how much this movie made.

The boxoffice performance of The Dark Knight is an effect of how popular Batman begins were. Of course other factors like good reviews helps aswell.

But in general the reason if a sequel makes good money, its because the first movie was good.

Thats why Batman begins didnt do as much, because the franchise had hit rock bottom with Batman and Robin.

The third Batman movie would show how good this movie was for the general public.
post #63 of 430
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Originally Posted by Vincent Pereira View Post

His name is Heath Ledger (short for Heathcliff, named after the character in the classic novel WUTHERING HEIGHTS)), not Keith. That's why folks were wondering if it was a typo. For somebody who seems to be such a fan of his, it's odd that you don't know his real name.

And, while the tragedy of his death obviously helped spur additional interest in the film, it doesn't account for how much this movie made. Curiousity over his death could account for some of the opening weekend numbers, but well over $520-million in the U.S. alone over the long haul has to do with a lot more than that. The film connected with people, and it wasn't just because of Heath's great performance.

Vincent

Honestly, everybody always tells me that the main character in this movie is not even Batman, but it's the Joker (or Harvey Dent). I disagree, and my favorite scenes are when Batman's kicking ass and the score is being played behind him. I love the Joker (do impressions all the time, have the Why So Serious poster, etc.), but Batman was still the main focus with Ledger's and Eckhart's characters being great causes for the things Bale's character does. Bale is my favorite actor, and he certainly didn't disappoint here. While the Joker is one of those great villains, I had no problem wanting to see him fall to Batman. He is the villain, after all.

Anyway, I was hyped for this movie well before seeing trailers. The fact that I knew Nolan was directing made me know that at least the Joker will be a realistic portrayal. Let's face it, if someone else directed this film, nothing would be portrayed to that realistic level that we've seen in these past two movies. Nolan is the ****!

I can't wait to get this movie, but unfortunately I will have to. It's a Christmas pickup for me.
post #64 of 430
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George, do you not consider the mattes just another type of "black bars?" The content in this movie was filmed in a couple of distinctly different processes, with different aspects. The compromise made for this bD release is a good one, I think.

However, you could simply matte to 2.40:1, and replicate the "normal theatrical" experience. Your choice.

No, I really don't consider mattes another type of black bars. The black bars from a 2:35/40 AR when projected are more a dark grey than black. By framing the 2:40 AR in black, I have no distractions. You say I can simply matte to 2:40 ( I already do this ) and replicate the "normal theatrical" experience. That would be fine with me, but it wasn't my understanding that the Blu-ray disc allowed this choice . Correct me if I am wrong, but I understood the Blu-ray disc was only available with the multi aspect ratio 1:85 ( Imax ) and 2:40 ( normal ), and to watch this, you would have to have the mattes off, exposing the entire 1:85 screen.
post #65 of 430
Just finished watching this film all I can say absolute fantastic loved it, audio quality perfect, Pq was fine I have to admit I did not see any halos maybe i was too immersed in the film to notice but nothing stood out that was abnormal. Heath did an awesome job as the Joker and its sad to see our local boy not with us anymore.I have to admit not having a CIH setup I did not notice the aspect ratio change,like I said before I was too immersed into the film to notice.
post #66 of 430
Good review! Just bought a Sony 350 player and preordered Dark Knight as my first Blu-Ray movie. Thought this one would be a good starting point So did I understand it correctly that the sound is only 5.1 not 7.1, if so bummer.
post #67 of 430
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Originally Posted by BlueLeader View Post

Good review! Just bought a Sony 350 player and preordered Dark Knight as my first Blu-Ray movie. Thought this one would be a good starting point So did I understand it correctly that the sound is only 5.1 not 7.1, if so bummer.

Greetings,

You understand correctly. It sounds great...


Cheers,
post #68 of 430
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I am glad to see it's not 2.35! Few things are worse for BR than having to zoom in to get anywhere near a full pic on my plasma!

It's 2.40, though it does switch into 1.78 for a few sequences. You'll have fun trying to zoom in and zoom out because the zoom in on the 1.78 stuff will look funky.
post #69 of 430
Thanks for the review. I have watched this now as well and fully agree with the review. And seeing how great the IMAX scenes are, i'd almost wished they'd shot the whole film in the IMAX format. But the changing aspect ratios work very well. Using a fp set up the change from 2.4 to IMAX is very impressive, it has a great "Whoa!" effect.

And besides being a greek drama, TDK is of course also a 'comic book' film. The IMAX scenes can be e.g., compared to the comic book style of showing major events on a full page in a printed graphic novel.

Overall i am more than pleased with this release!
post #70 of 430
Heath did such a good job with the Joker, I cannot see him being replaced.
post #71 of 430
I will be in line at walmart at midnight to pick this up before i miss a chance to get it before xmas, hope warner has at least 500,000 copies ready for the 9th! Just like Paramount with Iron Man, also a great movie this year!
post #72 of 430
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Originally Posted by Vincent Pereira View Post


And, while the tragedy of his death obviously helped spur additional interest in the film, it doesn't account for how much this movie made. Curiousity over his death could account for some of the opening weekend numbers, but well over $520-million in the U.S. alone over the long haul has to do with a lot more than that. The film connected with people, and it wasn't just because of Heath's great performance.

Vincent

Agreed. The performance upon first view may be a tour de force, but there were so many great performances from the entire ensemble - first time in years I can recall an occurrence like this - that you can say every1 on the set was @ the top of their game.
Writers, Directors, FX, Cinematography, etc.

Based on pure entertainment, this stands on its own.
Unlike BB - which I kept thinking I've seen somewhere before during that viewing.
If u want me to pinpoint what was 'wrong' for me in BB - it was the extraneous story of the Scarecrow. it just ruins the pacing of that movie.

If ppl are going to blame HL for overwhelming TDK, then I can surely blame the Scarecrow. haha.
post #73 of 430
great review, can not wait to watch this on blu ray!
post #74 of 430
just out of curiousity...how did some of you people already manage to get your hands on the blu rays already?
post #75 of 430
I wonder when Amazon will actually ship this. The release date is the 9th, but my arrival date is listed as the 11th. Don't they usually ship a day or two earlier so it arrives on the release date?
post #76 of 430
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just out of curiousity...how did some of you people already manage to get your hands on the blu rays already?

I think sites like DVD Pacific and Movietyme. I didn't take advantage of it, and I think doing it now will only get it to you as early as Monday anyway unless you want to pay $50. I'd say hold off if you can. I'm personally waiting until Christmas to get this, which is difficult enough as is.
post #77 of 430
^ Pssst, might wanna edit that a bit - they don't allow listing here the "where to try and get 'em early" info for obvious reasons. =)

I haven't watched any of the special features, so I could have missed it, but I was a little surprised that in light of what happened to HL (not to mention his actual performance pushing this one tremendously), there was no special nod to him, no "dedicated to", or "in memory of", etc....course it could be there in the credits which I admit I didn't fully watch, but then again, maybe that type of thing is just frowned upon in the biz and nobody wanted it mentioned?
post #78 of 430
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Originally Posted by Schils View Post

^ Pssst, might wanna edit that a bit - they don't allow listing here the "where to try and get 'em early" info for obvious reasons. =)

I haven't watched any of the special features, so I could have missed it, but I was a little surprised that in light of what happened to HL (not to mention his performance pushing this one tremenously), there was no special nod to him, no "dedicated to", or "in memory of", etc....course it could be there in the credits which I admit I didn't fully watch, but then again, maybe that type of thing is frowned upon and nobody wanted it mentioned?

They give special mention to Heath Ledger in the end credits almost immediately after the film ends...You don't have to fast forward to the very end of the titles its actually at the beginning of the titles.
post #79 of 430
Oh cool, thanks, I'll be checking that out then, not that I needed any reason to run TDK for its second time, but why not, lol!
post #80 of 430
Mods: Can we discuss the PQ here or only the review? I just want to clarify so we can avoid any confusion or problems. Thank you.
post #81 of 430
This thread is for a review only.


We have a thread on PQ in the software forum. I fyou choose to post in the other thread....Please note the following message from Alan Gouger of AVS. This message is a copy of a post he made in our current DK PQ Thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...089714&page=18

Moving forward this thread is about PQ. OT will be deleted.
Make your comment pro or con and move on. For those few who repeatedly ( you know who you are) quote posts and say +1 to bump the thread in their favor these will be deleted.

The other TDK threads were closed to allow for easier manageability.
We had a thread for PQ and one for the movie or story but sadly the same few people who partake in the PQ thread spreading their gospel invaded that thread taking it OT causing reported posts to pile in so thanks to those few we narrowed this down to one thread.
Once the title ships next week this thread will continue and a new one will be allowed for the movies story.

If you find one of your posts are ever deleted and you are in need of an explanation contact a moderator via PM, please do not make a post. Doing so will cause it to be deleted.

Thanks for your participation.
post #82 of 430
I for one loved this movie and the performance given by Heath Ledger. I also hope Ledger receives an Oscar for his performance. It is a true shame he is not hear to enjoy the praise he is receiving. I can't wait to own this movie.
post #83 of 430
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I for one loved this movie and the performance given by Heath Ledger. I also hope Ledger receives an Oscar for his performance. It is a true shame he is not hear to enjoy the praise he is receiving. I can't wait to own this movie.

It is a shame. After seeing his version of the joker I cannot envision anyone replacing him. He carried the movie.
post #84 of 430
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Originally Posted by Alan Gouger View Post

It is a shame. After seeing his version of the joker I cannot envision anyone replacing him. He carried the movie.

They dont really have to replace him.
post #85 of 430
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Originally Posted by MovieSwede View Post

They dont really have to replace him.

I am sure we can expect a sequel.
What is everyone's prediction to how they move forward with the joker...will he be killed off?
post #86 of 430
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Originally Posted by Alan Gouger View Post

I am sure we can expect a sequel.
What is everyone's prediction to how they move forward with the joker...will he be killed off?

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Well, he's been arrested, and perhaps moved to Arkham. I guess, with Ledger dead and all, there's not really all that much they can do with him (unless they have some footage left over from TDK that they can put in or something).
post #87 of 430
Maybe a more sinister villian is rumoured to kill him in the upcoming movie.
post #88 of 430
Just a quick question.

I've noticed there's been some inconsistencies regarding the subtitles on the various releases around the world. Amazon in particular lists both the US and UK version having English, French and Spanish subtitles, but I've read on the forum that the UK version also includes Korean (along with a plethora of other subs not mentioned).

Does the US release contain Korean subtitles? Warner included Korean subs for Batman Begins, but I'm not sure if I should buy the US version or just hunker down for the Hong Kong version.
post #89 of 430
My local BB is having a screening on Sunday night for TDK. They are also raffling off a copy.

Hope I win.
post #90 of 430
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Originally Posted by Fanaticalism View Post

My local BB is having a screening on Sunday night for TDK. They are also raffling off a copy.

Hope I win.


If you win it you must give it to me.

I just got put on 1st shift so I will not be able to rent it
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