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post #1921 of 2112
visakk
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I used the cable came with Subwoofer, Subwoofer cone shakes little when bomb explodes, other than that not much,...

Just to make sure the sub cable is connected to the "Subwoofer IN" (white) from RC-160 "Pre Out Subwoofer", right?
post #1922 of 2112
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

visakk


Just to make sure the sub cable is connected to the "Subwoofer IN" (white) from RC-160 "Pre Out Subwoofer", right?

Yes, Subwoofer IN to Pre Out on RC160
post #1923 of 2112
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Front = 80hz
Center= 80hz
Surround = 80hz
LPF of LFE = 120hz
Double Bass = OFF

Audyssey 2EQ does not set Double Bass, its on because Front is set to Full Band and Subwoofer is set to Yes.

What are the Channel Levels for all speakers include sub?

Question, first post you only mention Fronts, Center and Sub and now you are showing readings for Surrounds?

Initially I felt surrounds reading may not be necessary, but now included to have full information.

After your mentioned settings, Juster inserted HULK to verify the same, now I started feeling subwoofer, looks like need more tweaking and more break-in time.
post #1924 of 2112
What size is your room? If you aren't feeling anything, either your room is way too big for that sub, or something isn't set up right, so I would say a lot of tweaking is needed. I would also take the front off of full range and set to 60 or 80.
post #1925 of 2112
This is an apartment, 12x18x9 with opening to dining area(L-Shaped).
Trying to learn, what 60 or 80hz means, Does it say, cut off below 80 to Sub and above 80 to Fronts..?, What is center channel frequency..?
post #1926 of 2112
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This is an apartment, 12x18x9 with opening to dining area(L-Shaped).
Trying to learn, what 60 or 80hz means, Does it say, cut off below 80 to Sub and above 80 to Fronts..?, What is center channel frequency..?

The crossover frequency for each set of speakers is the frequency at the bottom of their range at which they stop producing sound, and direct it to the fronts (if they are set to full range) and no sub is present, or to the subwoofer. Center is the center speaker, the one between the fronts (the CS1). The way I will have my similar setup with M60's will be 80hz on the fronts, 80 center and 100 on the surrounds. The sub will be set to 100 via the receiver, which is the top of it's range. Meaning the fronts at 80 and the sub at 100 will blend, since they overlap by 20hz.
post #1927 of 2112
If you set the crossover, it doesn't completely stop producing any sound, it just tapers it. For example if you set it at 80Hz, your speakers will still get some frequencies below 80Hz.
post #1928 of 2112
Are there any differences between the PA-120 and the PA-10W other than power and size?
post #1929 of 2112
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Are there any differences between the PA-120 and the PA-10W other than power and size?

PA-10W has the volume and crossover knobs on the front, and it doesn't have a phase knob - only a 0/180 switch.
post #1930 of 2112
Well, I pop in Terminator Salvation and realize there is no bass coming from my PA120 sub. I flip the Onkyo 805 to Sound Level Calibration and go through the test tones, none coming from the sub. During the movie the display on the Onkyo shows an LFE channel. What gives?
post #1931 of 2112
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Well, I pop in Terminator Salvation and realize there is no bass coming from my PA120 sub. I flip the Onkyo 805 to Sound Level Calibration and go through the test tones, none coming from the sub. During the movie the display on the Onkyo shows an LFE channel. What gives?

Does the sub indicator light show green when recieving the LFE?
post #1932 of 2112
Yep it's green when "On" and when in the "Auto" position.
post #1933 of 2112
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Does the sub indicator light show green when recieving the LFE?

I've tried 3 differnt cables, plugged it in at 3 different locations, nothin'.
post #1934 of 2112
Are you sure you have it plugged into the right pre-out on the onkyo? I used to own an onkyo 806, and there were two labeled subwoofer, and only one works. It was confusing.
post #1935 of 2112
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Are you sure you have it plugged into the right pre-out on the onkyo? I used to own an onkyo 806, and there were two labeled subwoofer, and only one works. It was confusing.

Oh yeah, it's in the right one, it has worked for a year and a half, until today.
post #1936 of 2112
Sounds like an amp issue. Maybe call PA for a replacement.
post #1937 of 2112
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Sounds like an amp issue. Maybe call PA for a replacement.

Thanks. Done, just got off the phone with them, they're sending a replacement amp. Those guys have incredible customer service.
post #1938 of 2112
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Thanks. Done, just got off the phone with them, they're sending a replacement amp. Those guys have incredible customer service.

Are they sending you just the amp plate? If so why not remove the amp and check for loose connections. With a green indicator light being on its a possible chance a loose connection, maybe at the amp or at the driver.
post #1939 of 2112
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Are they sending you just the amp plate? If so why not remove the amp and check for loose connections. With a green indicator light being on its a possible chance a loose connection, maybe at the amp or at the driver.

Hmmmm, they said a replacement amp, not sure exactly what all that entails. I will try that first thing tomorrow.
post #1940 of 2112
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Hmmmm, they said a replacement amp, not sure exactly what all that entails. I will try that first thing tomorrow.

You may not find a disconnected wire but may find a connection thats not completely pushed in. Please update us on your situation, good luck.
post #1941 of 2112
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You may not find a disconnected wire but may find a connection thats not completely pushed in. Please update us on your situation, good luck.

I'm not seeing anything, everything seems to be snug. All the solder joints are still intact.
post #1942 of 2112
thats unfortunate..... I have had both of mine for about a year now,,, and im hoping they will continue to play.... I also dont play mine that loud
post #1943 of 2112
has anyone played CASTAWAY yet... my dualies played the plane crash and the waves just nicely... I was surprised
post #1944 of 2112
Yeah, I have the movie...

For strictly bass movies, I like "9", terminator salvation, and wall-e.

I can feel a gust of wind hit me from the sub, and it will blow papers off my coffee table when I play those movies.
post #1945 of 2112
I just watched "9" earlier today with my youngest son..... pretty good movie....

and wall-e,, I just got on bluray,,,much better than DVD
post #1946 of 2112
Ok all, total newbie here, so far the PA-120 sounds really good to me. So I ran Audessey last night, and here are my questions:
1)For audessy I had the crossover on the back of the sub all the way up, now that I've ran it, do I leave that dial where it is and assume audessey will handle it from there? Or am I supposed to dial it back down now (I'm talking on the back of the sub only - not on my Onkyo receiver).

2)Also, I'm confused about the phase setting: I have my Tv mounted above the fire place, and the sub is in the front left corner, HOWEVER it is not facing forward like my front speakers, because of some built-in cabinets I have to have it in that corner facing sideways (so the front of the sub is facing the tv actually, and sits along the same wall as the tv - if that makes sense). So is my phase set to zero since its in the front, or do I need adjust the phase because of the angle the sub is facing? Any help appreciated.
post #1947 of 2112
Oh and if I adjust the phase, does that mean I should re-run the audessey? Thanks
post #1948 of 2112
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Originally Posted by strikesystems View Post

Ok all, total newbie here, so far the PA-120 sounds really good to me. So I ran Audessey last night, and here are my questions:
1)For audessy I had the crossover on the back of the sub all the way up, now that I've ran it, do I leave that dial where it is and assume audessey will handle it from there? Or am I supposed to dial it back down now (I'm talking on the back of the sub only - not on my Onkyo receiver).

That's correct set it to highest setting as the crossover is control by the receiver. Don't not touch the dials after running Audyssey.

2)Also, I'm confused about the phase setting: I have my Tv mounted above the fire place, and the sub is in the front left corner, HOWEVER it is not facing forward like my front speakers, because of some built-in cabinets I have to have it in that corner facing sideways (so the front of the sub is facing the tv actually, and sits along the same wall as the tv - if that makes sense). So is my phase set to zero since its in the front, or do I need adjust the phase because of the angle the sub is facing? Any help appreciated.

Phase should be set to zero.

Set sub Volume just below half, Phase to zero and Crossover to highest setting and then run Audyssey.
Do not touch any dials on the sub after running Audyssey. If adjustment are needed, adjust crossover and sub channel level in the receiver.
post #1949 of 2112
Thanks JChin,
It looks like I should be good to go then, because that's essentially what I've done and how I left it after Audyssey. Again, it sounded pretty good to me.

I still don't really understand how to adjust the crossover on the receiver yet (even thought I've read the directions) I'm too afraid to touch the settings post Audyssey at this point. I've got a professional calibrator coming for the tv this week sometime - he's also a sound geek (I mean that in a good way Chad, if your reading this), and I'm hoping he wont mind walking me through the advanced speaker adjustments to make sure the sub is getting all the work she deserves! Now back to Transformers BD.
post #1950 of 2112
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Originally Posted by bloodta View Post

I'm not seeing anything, everything seems to be snug. All the solder joints are still intact.

so what was the outcome..



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Originally Posted by subiefast View Post

Yeah, I have the movie...

For strictly bass movies, I like "9", terminator salvation, and wall-e.

I can feel a gust of wind hit me from the sub, and it will blow papers off my coffee table when I play those movies.

have you watched AVATAR yet.. ???
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