Originally Posted by Star Hawk
You must not have placed your PA 120 in the best location then. Because when I listen to U-571, WOTW, Hell Boy II, Star Trek 2009 (when the ships warp out of space dock) and others having loud ultra low bass tracks (all on Blu-ray and lossless audio), the impact on my chest is with such a wallop that it's a bit scary at times. I sit 13 feet away from my sub too. Audessey did the auto EQ. I did the sub crawl to locate the best spot to put the PA 120. The PA 120 literally does have breathtaking performance in the ultra low bass. If the svs pb 12 hit me harder than that, I'd be reluctant to buy one for fear that once it knocked me down, I might not be able to get back up!
I couldn't imagine wanting more bass than what the PA 120 puts out. I have no doubt that the pb12 puts out more. But I don't think I need it. My friends love coming over to watch movies because they love getting kicked in the chest by the powerful low bass.
I completely agree that in terms of output, the PA-120 is awesome once it's dialed in with the correct placement and the correct tuning. It would give me
huge hits in the chest and I loved listening to it. What it doesn't do is to get ultra-low. When I say ultra low, I'm talking about levels under 25Hz. The question is... do you really need to get that low to enjoy a movie. Maybe not. There are certain scenes with my VTF-3.3 that I can't even hear a bass scene, but I only feel the couch vibrating.
When it comes to music, however, I think that the PA-120 falls short. the bass does feel a bit muddy and not precise. I never noticed it until I got a sub that does it better. But that being said, the time I've owned the PA, I never thought... "Man, this sub lacks." I really enjoyed it and was even more happy that I got to enjoy it at such a low price.