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post #2851 of 5472
I use Netflix through my oppo103. Sometimes I watch TV shows that have the sound mixed up. Right now I am watching Revolution and the center is coming from the left surround. I can choose another episode and it will be correct. I have watched other shows and sometimes it seems right sided. Has anyone seen something like this before? It very random and doest not happen that often but I am guessing its Netflix related? I used to get the sasm issue with a different bluray player and a different receiver.
post #2852 of 5472
Is there a version of that sample short that displays the bitrate, but has normal audio instead of the test tones?
post #2853 of 5472
Yesterday I got Super HD. Wierd.
post #2854 of 5472
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Originally Posted by andyross63 View Post

Is there a version of that sample short that displays the bitrate, but has normal audio instead of the test tones?

AFAICT there are no other versions of "Example" with that information burned into them. "Example 8 Hour 23.976" used to have it but not now. Change the audio to "English (Stereo)"; the test tones are only in the English 5.1 track.
post #2855 of 5472
They added some new Example Shorts recently. What was the point if they don't have the overlay info because they are really stupid especially the part were the guy starts to ramble on.
post #2856 of 5472
I am pretty sure that the various "Example" clips aren't there for customers. My guess is that they have variety of specific encoding features and are used in regression testing of players to make sure that they properly handle those.
post #2857 of 5472
Still getting Super HD on TWC on my PS3.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1450510/netflix-adds-3d-and-super-hd/1470#post_23662415
That is what I posted yesterday. Heck I am not complaining except that I can't find any news that they made a deal or that because I am using Google DNS. The Super HD Netflix page on the PS3 says that I can't get Super HD. Weird but I will enjoy it while it lasts.
post #2858 of 5472
I'm getting Super HD as well. I just discovered it on Friday. Im on the 6Mbps AT&T U Verse plan.
post #2859 of 5472
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Originally Posted by MA5CMPB View Post

I'm getting Super HD as well. I just discovered it on Friday. Im on the 6Mbps AT&T U Verse plan.
Are you sure about that? What do you get when you go here?
https://signup.netflix.com/superhd
post #2860 of 5472
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Are you sure about that? What do you get when you go here?
https://signup.netflix.com/superhd

That page is useless. I been getting Super HD since Friday and that page still says I am not configured for Super HD.
post #2861 of 5472
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Originally Posted by MA5CMPB View Post

I'm getting Super HD as well. I just discovered it on Friday. Im on the 6Mbps AT&T U Verse plan.
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Are you sure about that? What do you get when you go here?
https://signup.netflix.com/superhd
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

That page is useless. I been getting Super HD since Friday and that page still says I am not configured for Super HD.
In that case, what's the max bitrate you see when you play the Example Short, MA5CMPB?
Edited by mdavej - 8/26/13 at 12:45pm
post #2862 of 5472

Just -watched it 5800kbps 1920x1080 on the Windows 8 app. Took a screenshot.
Using OpenDNS on the PC though the router. My PS3 uses Google DNS directly.
Edited by reddice - 8/26/13 at 12:47pm
post #2863 of 5472
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5800kbps 1920x1080 the last time I checked.
Thanks, but I meant the OP since his is the first and only report we have of AT&T Uverse being on Open Connect, as well as being able to get a 5.8 Mbps stream on a 6 Mbps line of service. That's awfully tight, with no headroom for buffering. It would be nice to know how it sustains the top bitrate.
Edited by mdavej - 8/26/13 at 12:57pm
post #2864 of 5472
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Thanks, but I meant the OP since his is the first report we have of AT&T Uverse being on Open Connect.

Sorry. Did not mean the OP.
post #2865 of 5472
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post


Just -watched it 5800kbps 1920x1080 on the Windows 8 app. Took a screenshot.
Using OpenDNS on the PC though the router. My PS3 uses Google DNS directly.

Now you just have to figure out how to get CBS programming. wink.gif


Ian biggrin.gif
post #2866 of 5472
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post



In that case, what's the max bitrate you see when you play the Example Short, MA5CMPB?
4300 Kbps
post #2867 of 5472
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Originally Posted by MA5CMPB View Post

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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post



In that case, what's the max bitrate you see when you play the Example Short, MA5CMPB?
4300 Kbps

That makes sense. You need about 130% of an encode's bandwidth to stay ahead of it; 1.3 * 4300 Kbps = 5590 Kbps. You'd need about 7540 Kbps available bandwidth to play the 5800 Kbps encode.

What are you watching on? Do you see the Super HD logos in the player's browser?
post #2868 of 5472
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Originally Posted by mailiang View Post

Now you just have to figure out how to get CBS programming. wink.gif


Ian biggrin.gif

Who cares about CBS programs unless they are classics. I watch mostly classic TV shows on Netflix anyway which are way better than the dribble that is out now.
post #2869 of 5472
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

Who cares about CBS programs unless they are classics. I watch mostly classic TV shows on Netflix anyway which are way better than the dribble that is out now.
Wow. I am sure glad that the mass majority does not follow your advice. BTW, what is your definition of dribble?
post #2870 of 5472
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

That makes sense. You need about 130% of an encode's bandwidth to stay ahead of it; 1.3 * 4300 Kbps = 5590 Kbps. You'd need about 7540 Kbps available bandwidth to play the 5800 Kbps encode.

What are you watching on? Do you see the Super HD logos in the player's browser?

Remember the audio - probably still about 384 Kbps if 5.1 so 4300 stream is really 4684 Kbps.

I think the 130% was pre-adaptive streaming but you still need some overhead. It would be tough to do the 5800 + 384 = 6184 Kbps on a 6 Mbps DSL stream.....
post #2871 of 5472
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Originally Posted by undecided View Post

Remember the audio - probably still about 384 Kbps if 5.1 so 4300 stream is really 4684 Kbps.

I think the 130% was pre-adaptive streaming but you still need some overhead. It would be tough to do the 5800 + 384 = 6184 Kbps on a 6 Mbps DSL stream.....
We were watching Blitz last night, and all we could get was between 288-384, a couple of times at 480, Multi-in. Even when I was watching Terminator 2, which is supposed to be 5.1, it was 384-480, Multi-in, which is pathetic for what we are paying for as consumers. Netflix of course comes back blaming consumers LAN equipment, stating that the consumer is saturating their connection through their provider, even though most like myself that have U-Verse are seeing 20-22.5meg Down, which should be getting 720p-1080p 5.1 for Netflix streaming.

After almost a year and a half, it is really sad, that Netflix has not fixed this continuing issue with their CDN's, even though when you report problems to Amazon, they are right on top of it, and fix their problems with their CDN's. almost immediately. If Netflix plans to stay afloat after Sony starts their streaming platform, and if Sony and other platforms start allowing Redbox streaming, it is a gamble whether we are going to stay with Netflix for shoddy product that they state is supposed to be good enough that it will do what they are stating that it should do, even though it is not any better than watching Low Def Youtube videos in full screen on a Widescreen HDTV.
post #2872 of 5472
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Originally Posted by undecided View Post

Remember the audio - probably still about 384 Kbps if 5.1 so 4300 stream is really 4684 Kbps.

I think the 130% was pre-adaptive streaming but you still need some overhead. It would be tough to do the 5800 + 384 = 6184 Kbps on a 6 Mbps DSL stream.....

You're right, I am forgetting bandwidth for sound. So 4684 Kbps needs about 6 Mbps to stay ahead of it.

I don't think that it measures that 130%; I think that it fills the buffer and adjusts to a lower bit rate encode if it's emptying out and to a higher bit rate encode if it stays full for a while when using less than the highest. I just think that 120%-130% is what it takes to fill the buffer and keep it full. Obviously you have to be pulling higher than the bit rate of the stream to fill the buffer; if, after the buffer is full, available bandwidth on your connection to Netflix's server (as distinct from available bandwidth to your service provider's CO) stayed rock solid at 4684 Kbps or above you wouldn't need any more than that.
post #2873 of 5472
I am finding even with Super HD on my PS3 the stream will still take the same amount of time to ramp up. About 30 seconds.

Last night was worse taking up to a minute to go up to Super HD but it stayed there. I never bothered with the Roku which I know would have been worse.

Also with poor quality is there any word when Netflix is going to get rid of those useless 240 SD encodes? If they used the eyeiO codec on SD content maybe they can then.
post #2874 of 5472
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

Who cares about CBS programs unless they are classics. I watch mostly classic TV shows on Netflix anyway which are way better than the dribble that is out now.


I guess you're not a big sports fan.


Ian
post #2875 of 5472
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

That makes sense. You need about 130% of an encode's bandwidth to stay ahead of it; 1.3 * 4300 Kbps = 5590 Kbps. You'd need about 7540 Kbps available bandwidth to play the 5800 Kbps encode.

What are you watching on? Do you see the Super HD logos in the player's browser?
I am using a PS3. The overlay says 1080 Super HD
post #2876 of 5472
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Originally Posted by mailiang View Post

I guess you're not a big sports fan.

Ian

No I am not. Sports are as boring as watching paint dry.
post #2877 of 5472
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

No I am not. Sports are as boring as watching paint dry.
Is there anything that does not bore you?
post #2878 of 5472
Lost SuperHD. On my PS3 it only goes up to 1080 HD. No big deal I knew it was a fluke since there was crap info about it. Also even with SuperHD it still did not ramp up as quickly.
post #2879 of 5472
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Originally Posted by MA5CMPB View Post

I am using a PS3. The overlay says 1080 Super HD
Thanks for the screen shot. Anything over 3850 is technically Super HD even though you're still one level shy of the top rate of 5800. So it looks like Uverse is indeed using Open Connect now, assuming you aren't using a proxy. It appears the thing limiting you to 4300 is your 6Mbps service.

It's good to see more providers getting on board.
post #2880 of 5472
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

It's good to see more providers getting on board.

It's just a fluke. I have heard nothing from TWC or AT&T about Open Connect. I was the only one from TWC that got Super HD and I searched for news and message boards and heard nothing about it. I avoid social media because of all the profanity on there. smile.gif

Now I lost Super HD I know it was just a fluke.
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