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post #3271 of 5444
Just downloaded IE 11 for win 7 stable today works pretty good so far I still use Chrome mostly it is my default browser.

IE 11 seems a little smother than IE10 Netflix playback renders well in IE 11 still Silverlight 720p in win 7 though .No joy on Netflix super HD either in win 7 .

My discrete video card up scales it to 1080p before it gets to the TV
so it looks pretty good vid card has a good scalar.

No support for premium HTML5 video content (1080p and super HD Netflix ) in IE 11 win 7 Only in win 8.1 version .

Only same Silverlight and Flash in win 7 IE 11 .
Hopefully Firefox and Chrome will fix us win 7 users up there soon .
Edited by tubetwister - 11/8/13 at 12:57pm
post #3272 of 5444
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Originally Posted by tubetwister View Post

No support for premium HTML5 video content (1080p and super HD Netflix ) in IE 11 win 7 .
Only in win 8.1 version . Only same Silverlight and Flash in win 7 IE 11 .

Well, that sucks. The HTML5 Netflix player on Windows 8.1 is entirely superfluous given the Win8 Netflix app (which can bitstream DD+ to your AVR if you have sound over HDMI on your graphics card; the HTML5 player can't do this). The HTML5 player does, of course, offer Netflix web version of the library browser, from which you can browse the entire library which can't be done from the app.
post #3273 of 5444
Maybe chrome can come up with a win 7 app that can play 5.1 over HDMI I use win 7 PC for my second set
and PS 3 Netflix app for the big set .

Google is starting to make win 7 on line/offline app launchers now they have a pretty cool one out already it has all the Google services and You tube in it, it loads the browser in about one second .

I have the Google app launcher pinned to the task bar it works well
even if you just want to launch the browser or You Tube it's actually a little faster than a shortcut .
If they could make an HTML5 premium video player app that would be cool .

I think Google eventually want's to 'colonize' the windows desktops in that way .
post #3274 of 5444
It's after 8PM here. I just tried streaming a title on my TiVo Mini. As usual it quickly ramped up to the top SuperHD stream.
post #3275 of 5444
IE 11 renders webpages terrible in 8.1 anyway. I can't wait for Chrome to support premium HTML5 standards for W7.
post #3276 of 5444
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

IE 11 renders webpages terrible in 8.1 anyway. I can't wait for Chrome to support premium HTML5 standards for W7.

Since I don't use IE for anything other than playing with the Netflix HTML5 player I've made Netflix my home page. It renders Netflix's site well enough.
post #3277 of 5444
Time of day no longer even seems to matter for me. Tried out Netflix about 15 minutes ago and got about 6 seconds of 5800 on the example clip but then quickly dropped down to 3000 (or sometimes lower). Maybe the school providing my Internet is limiting Netflix intentionally.
post #3278 of 5444
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Video streaming is overtaking physical media. Here are the numbers to prove it: In 2012, an estimated 3.4 billion movies were streamed by households in the U.S., while only 2.4 billion Blu-rays and DVDs were watched during the same period — a dip from the year before.
http://hdguru.com/page/4/

Thought this was interesting ofc it's obvious also at least here in the sf bay area .
post #3279 of 5444
And "the customer is always right" is something the ISPs need to learn even if streaming is beginning to hurt their TV biz. I think it will also effect how people watch TV in that after a while of watching streaming content they may not want to invest long term in a series and pick a movie instead.
post #3280 of 5444
I might also get a PS4 after a year or so. If anyone gets a PS4 post here on how it streams Netflix. Thanks.
Edited by reddice - 11/10/13 at 3:58pm
post #3281 of 5444
Some interesting data.

Netflix and Youtube now over 50% of the North America Download Traffic

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57611722-93/netflix-youtube-gobble-up-half-of-internet-traffic/



Surprised Amazon is only 1.6% of the download traffic and how does Netflix get to be 4.4% of the upload traffic?
post #3282 of 5444
And with Comcast getting ever closer to re-implementing usage caps of 300GBs.

Comcast Usage Caps, Overages Arrive in Atlanta
post #3283 of 5444
I would wonder how Comcast would react if it was Hulu causing the traffic since they have controlling interest? The telecoms are once again threatening getting rid of Net Neutrality. We broadband users need to unite and rise up against them in the attempt.
post #3284 of 5444
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Originally Posted by undecided View Post

how does Netflix get to be 4.4% of the upload traffic?


It's possible those figures come from smaller independent film makers submitting their movie titles and trailers for review.


http://www.distribber.com/?referral_code=JASONB


Ian
post #3285 of 5444
When you're streaming a movie from Netflix there's a constant trickle of data going back the other way; the process is controlled by the player, with Netflix only sending bits of the stream as requested. With millions of people playing Netflix titles simultaneously its conceivably 4.4% of the upload traffic.
post #3286 of 5444
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

And with Comcast getting ever closer to re-implementing usage caps of 300GBs.

Comcast Usage Caps, Overages Arrive in Atlanta

Who the hell is the user in the example usage graph? The guy was up to 3.8 TB in a single month; that's business class consumption. With a 300 GB cap and $10 per 50GB over, he'd owe an additional $716.
post #3287 of 5444
I tried to use the Windows 8 app and IE 11 to watch Iron Man Adventures and it kept dropping down to that fuzzy SD crap. Actually the Windows 8 app only dropped down to 1750 kbps while the HTML5 player started out great then dropped down to fuzzy SD. I tried it on the Silverlight player on Firefox and it started out fuzzy but went to HD after about 15 seconds and then after about a minute it had a long 4 minute buffer and stayed in HD 720p 3000kbps. I watched about 5 minutes of it but now I am not in the mood.

Also a mood point as the ATV is even giving me problems with the stream buffering after about 10 seconds of playback then buffering and reverting to that fuzzy SD mess. After a couple of reloads it might be fine but yesterday I had to use my PS3.

When I do get a PS4 if anything happens to my PS3 which should be even better for Netflix all I am going to use it for is Netflix, DVD & BD playback. I am not interested in games anymore.

Also I do see why Netflix and YouTube is so popular. YouTube I can't watch anything after around 5 PM EST till 11:30 PM EST. I can watch a video but I have to let it fully buffer and it takes up to five minutes for a 3 minute video. Netflix as you all know is only playable in Super HD on the PS3. Enough ranting. Thanks for being patent.
post #3288 of 5444
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

When you're streaming a movie from Netflix there's a constant trickle of data going back the other way; the process is controlled by the player, with Netflix only sending bits of the stream as requested. With millions of people playing Netflix titles simultaneously its conceivably 4.4% of the upload traffic.

That too!

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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Who the hell is the user in the example usage graph? The guy was up to 3.8 TB in a single month; that's business class consumption. With a 300 GB cap and $10 per 50GB over, he'd owe an additional $716.

Porn!



Ian biggrin.gif
post #3289 of 5444
Or a heavy torrent user.
post #3290 of 5444
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

When I do get a PS4 if anything happens to my PS3 which should be even better for Netflix all I am going to use it for is Netflix, DVD & BD playback. I am not interested in games anymore.

Pretty pricey disc and media player.

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Netflix as you all know is only playable in Super HD on the PS3.

You should put smilies on your jokes biggrin.gif. Netflix readily plays in Super HD on every platform I own, other than the Silverlight-based web browser player and the Xbox 360, both of which are limited to 720p.
post #3291 of 5444
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Pretty pricey disc and media player.
You should put smilies on your jokes biggrin.gif. Netflix readily plays in Super HD on every platform I own, other than the Silverlight-based web browser player and the Xbox 360, both of which are limited to 720p.
Well lucky you then. Not to be mean or a jerk but you never have problems with any devices which is annoying when you keep pointing it out.

I tried all different devices for Netflix even returning the Roku 3 because it performed so bad and the PS3 is the only device that performed the best under congestion. Nothing comes close. Why because of its huge buffer.

I don't care if the PS3 uses 90 watts or more and the streaming box uses 5 watts if it streams like crap or less I use the PS3 screw the power consumption.
post #3292 of 5444
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

Well lucky you then. Not to be mean or a jerk but you never have problems with any devices which is annoying when you keep pointing it out.

Surely no less annoying than your constantly harping on your problems with it. I feel a need to continuously point out that I'm not having any problems so people don't get the idea that your poor experience with these things is anything close to the norm. You say, "as you all know", so I feel the need to point out that not nearly all of us "know" any such thing.

It's mind boggling that you, who, after having sold your Roku 3 months ago out of frustration with it, continues to haunt the Roku threads in these forums and even the Roku site forums just so that you can make negative comments about it would call anyone's contributions here "annoying". What you're doing in those Roku threads is the definition of trolling.
post #3293 of 5444
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

Well lucky you then. Not to be mean or a jerk but you never have problems with any devices which is annoying when you keep pointing it out.

I tried all different devices for Netflix even returning the Roku 3 because it performed so bad and the PS3 is the only device that performed the best under congestion. Nothing comes close. Why because of its huge buffer.

I don't care if the PS3 uses 90 watts or more and the streaming box uses 5 watts if it streams like crap or less I use the PS3 screw the power consumption.

I'm sorry to say that my experience pretty much mirrors Mike Scott ... eek.gif ... consistent 40Mbps connection, two PS3's and 3 various BD players ..
post #3294 of 5444
I am done trolling on the Roku forums I don't say anything on there anymore after the last post and since I can't close my forum account there I just lurk. Also I unsubscribed and deleted some of my last posts on the Roku 3 discussion here after a personal attack (thanks mods for cleaning that up). I am still curious of the happenings of the Roku but I will be seen not heard.

I wish I had no problems like you do but I don't have choices of providers and TWC is still way better at FiOS.

I want Netflix to add a option like you said to turn off Super HD. I was perfectly happy with the 1080p 3850kbps HD as it has a bigger buffer (4 minutes on the PS3) but since they turned on Super HD for anyone there has been more congestion which the PS3 can handle great. Right now anything but best gives you horrible low definition.
Edited by reddice - 11/11/13 at 1:44pm
post #3295 of 5444
Also forgot to say but I even this switch Saturday http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KZQM8W?ie=UTF8&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links which suppose to be for HD playback and the first thing I watched on the ATV buffered and dropped down to low SD after 10 second of playback on Netflix. Columbo on the PS3 would start out bad then a couple of reloads it was fine although the first 15 minutes it will drop down to 1080 HD but not any lower.

So much for a HD switch. Since yesterday I hooked up my old Monoprice Gigabit Switch and except having to reload Quincy ME once when it started at 240 SD it was flawless all evening on the PS3.

I will most likely return that crappy HP switch to Amazon.
Edited by reddice - 11/11/13 at 1:57pm
post #3296 of 5444
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Originally Posted by Brian Conrad View Post

I would wonder how Comcast would react if it was Hulu causing the traffic since they have controlling interest? The telecoms are once again threatening getting rid of Net Neutrality. We broadband users need to unite and rise up against them in the attempt.
As part of the deal to purchase NBC/Uni Comcast had to give up voting power with regards to Hulu affairs, they're basically a silent non-voting partner. I'd imagine they'd treat it just like any other OTT video provider, they would probably like to dump it in fact, the other principals have been trying to sell it off for years.
post #3297 of 5444
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Who the hell is the user in the example usage graph? The guy was up to 3.8 TB in a single month; that's business class consumption. With a 300 GB cap and $10 per 50GB over, he'd owe an additional $716.
Yeah, that image gets pulled out every time the subject of caps comes up, it's crazy.

I'm hoping Sonic decides to expand their $70 Gigabit broadband fiber service to their hometown of Santa Rosa. I could move 12 miles west to Sebastopol I suppose! biggrin.gif

Sonic doesn't have caps.
post #3298 of 5444
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Originally Posted by mailiang View Post

Porn!

An inconceivably large amount thereof biggrin.gif.

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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

Or a heavy torrent user.

If we assume an average of 30 GB, 3.8 TB is 126 full bit rate Blu-ray disc downloads.
post #3299 of 5444
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Yeah, that image gets pulled out every time the subject of caps comes up, it's crazy.

I'm hoping Sonic decides to expand their $70 Gigabit broadband fiber service to their hometown of Santa Rosa. I could move 12 miles west to Sebastopol I suppose! biggrin.gif

Sonic doesn't have caps.
Yeah, sell your house and move to Sebastopol just to watch streaming TV without caps. Let's do the math. biggrin.gif

Probably better to start organizing streaming users who are getting billed for going over caps for protests. Every U-Verse ad I see features being able to stream movies. Of course their whole TV service is streaming. These telecom companies CEOs are dinosaurs with retro 20th century business school thinking.
post #3300 of 5444
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

I'm sorry to say that my experience pretty much mirrors Mike Scott ... eek.gif ... consistent 40Mbps connection, two PS3's and 3 various BD players ..

+1 with a couple dozen netflix devices including three Rokus.
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