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post #1891 of 3084
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Originally Posted by Gardinenstange View Post

Hi there,

i discovered this thread after hours of trying to get dolby digital 5.1 and dts sound working with my gtx460 card. i had no success and so i tried serveral inf files from the first post. at least i can now select 5.1. in the speakers options of windows 7 instead of only having the stereo setting displayed.

display: Samsung UE40D5700 (inf file attached)
receiver: Pioneer VSX-C300 (no hdmi input so i cannot retrieve EDID, any ideas?)

pc -> hdmi -> tv -> receiver

Is someone able to modify the inf file so that i can use dd and dts streams?

Thanks in advance.

So lonG
Daniel

Use a separate S/PDIF connection (onboard) to AVR. AFAIK The Samsung TV won't passthrough DTS anyway.
post #1892 of 3084
im tired of pulling my hair. so i reformatted my pc. and its works okay now. turning off tv does not turn off monitor. im using latest nvidia beta driver.

thanks anyway.
post #1893 of 3084
Quick help , how do you set a custom res in ATI. I see no where to select the 1080p 60 hz option I forced. It doesn't show up anywhere and I'll be damned if I can find out where I can now select it. I know damn well the hdtv is 1080p 60hz, why after all these damn years does the video cards still play stupid. It's unreal.
post #1894 of 3084
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Originally Posted by hdtv00 View Post

Quick help , how do you set a custom res in ATI. I see no where to select the 1080p 60 hz option I forced. It doesn't show up anywhere and I'll be damned if I can find out where I can now select it. I know damn well the hdtv is 1080p 60hz, why after all these damn years does the video cards still play stupid. It's unreal.

AFAIK (haven't used an ATI card for a while so maybe in 11.12...) there's no way of setting a custom resolution for ATI cards. Do a driver clean install or follow section 4 of 1st. post of link in my sig. to remove leftovers of monitor drivers in the registry.
post #1895 of 3084
Hey, Tulli. Just want to thank you for all the help you have given the community here! I hope you can help me as well.

I've made a custom edid override, and I am still having problems. I got it to install, and followed your post on cleaning up the old configs. What happens is when I boot my machine, everything is good. Then I put it to sleep, wake it up, and it has been hit or miss after that. Whenever it fails in WMC with the "display driver error" I go to device manager and see the edid monitor with an error. Code 38. When I check "show hidden devices" the generic upnp monitor is there again! No matter how many times I uninstall it, it still pops back after resume from sleep. Seems if I could just get that generic ini from coming back everything would be good.

Could you take a look at my ini's and make a custom one for me. I have an ati 5450 and haven't been able to get trueHD working either.

ati hd5450-->
sony_str_dh710-->
samsung_LN46b550K1FXZA

Thanks much for your help!

 

moninfo output.zip 2.400390625k . file
post #1896 of 3084
Well ok, how about in hdtv panel area it lets you add 1080p 60hz if you check it. Problem is I can't find where in the settings or options where to actually select that once you've checked it as adding it. But I don't see the stupid option showing up anywhere after checking it to add it...thanks for your help in this, I'm finding this annoying beyond belief.
post #1897 of 3084
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Originally Posted by ichoozjc View Post

Hey, Tulli. Just want to thank you for all the help you have given the community here! I hope you can help me as well.

I've made a custom edid override, and I am still having problems. I got it to install, and followed your post on cleaning up the old configs. What happens is when I boot my machine, everything is good. Then I put it to sleep, wake it up, and it has been hit or miss after that. Whenever it fails in WMC with the "display driver error" I go to device manager and see the edid monitor with an error. Code 38. When I check "show hidden devices" the generic upnp monitor is there again! No matter how many times I uninstall it, it still pops back after resume from sleep. Seems if I could just get that generic ini from coming back everything would be good.

Could you take a look at my ini's and make a custom one for me. I have an ati 5450 and haven't been able to get trueHD working either.

ati hd5450-->
sony_str_dh710-->
samsung_LN46b550K1FXZA

Thanks much for your help!

If the problem is with waking up in WMC it can't be fixed with an EDID override.

As for the HD audio problem: are all formats listed on the HDMI audio properties? Are you using AMD HDMI native audio driver? Which version?
post #1898 of 3084
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Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

If the problem is with waking up in WMC it can't be fixed with an EDID override.

As for the HD audio problem: are all formats listed on the HDMI audio properties? Are you using AMD HDMI native audio driver? Which version?

All the formats are listed and checked, yes. The PC wakes up fine, it's just i get an error in WMC "display driver not found" and when i do it's only when the custom .ini I made shows a failure in device manager. This is what happens.

Load custom ini. everything is working well.
Put computer to sleep, wake up..... still working but now device manager shows the generic listed again when I check "show hidden devices" but it's still using my custom ini just fine.
Then when I sleep again, and resume, I will get the error in WMC again and in device manager there is a conflict because there are 2 devices showing under monitor again.

I am now running 5450 to tv through hdmi and audio to reciever through spdif. This allows me to have a functioning sleep, but of course there is no chance of trueHD now.
post #1899 of 3084
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Originally Posted by ichoozjc View Post
All the formats are listed and checked, yes. The PC wakes up fine, it's just i get an error in WMC "display driver not found" and when i do it's only when the custom .ini I made shows a failure in device manager. This is what happens.

Load custom ini. everything is working well.
Put computer to sleep, wake up..... still working but now device manager shows the generic listed again when I check "show hidden devices" but it's still using my custom ini just fine.
Then when I sleep again, and resume, I will get the error in WMC again and in device manager there is a conflict because there are 2 devices showing under monitor again.

I am now running 5450 to tv through hdmi and audio to reciever through spdif. This allows me to have a functioning sleep, but of course there is no chance of trueHD now.
Try the attached mod after cleaning up all registry leftovers again. Then, after waking up from sleep try applying the EDID override again to the active GenericPnP monitor and reboot.

 

Samsung ln46b550k1fxza - SONY STRDH710.zip 1.2578125k . file
post #1900 of 3084
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Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Try the attached mod after cleaning up all registry leftovers again. Then, after waking up from sleep try applying the EDID override again to the active GenericPnP monitor and reboot.

Ok, Tulli, thanks! However it's still doing the same thing.

First resume from sleep is fine, but causes the generic pnp to load but as inactive. Next resume breaks my live TV with

Quote:


Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware because a previous instance of the device driver is still in memory. (Code 38)

Any ideas why this is happening?

Edit:

I do remove all instances of Monitor in device manager first, reboot machine, then loaded your custom ini. Then reboot again. Then begin testing sleep.
LL
post #1901 of 3084
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Originally Posted by ichoozjc View Post

Ok, Tulli, thanks! However it's still doing the same thing.

First resume from sleep is fine, but causes the generic pnp to load but as inactive. Next resume breaks my live TV with



Any ideas why this is happening?

Edit:

I do remove all instances of Monitor in device manager first, reboot machine, then loaded your custom ini. Then reboot again. Then begin testing sleep.

No idea, except that an expensive Gefen HDMI Detective is the only 100% solution that I'm aware of.
post #1902 of 3084
hey tulli,
i've got a philips 6606 connected to my computer via hdmi (ati 5770 with realtek sound driver). The tv has a digital sound output to my 5.1 soundsystem. It is possible for me to get (dolby-ac3)surround audiostream (via hdmi-passthrough) from movies but in the windows sound-settings however i've got stereo-sound only. I think that's because the edid of the tv tells my pc that there are only two speakers built in. which i am not using. So here's my question, since i don't get how to get this stuff in hex straight by myself, could you edit the edid so i can get 5.1 sound? with multiple pcm-channels? and a dts-stream would be great but i'm not sure, could that damage my tv if it doesn't support that natively? my soundsystem has a decoder for everything.
many thanks in advance.

 

monitor.zip 1.212890625k . file
post #1903 of 3084
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Originally Posted by KILLA-CONNI View Post

hey tulli,
i've got a philips 6606 connected to my computer via hdmi (ati 5770 with realtek sound driver). The tv has a digital sound output to my 5.1 soundsystem. It is possible for me to get (dolby-ac3)surround audiostream (via hdmi-passthrough) from movies but in the windows sound-settings however i've got stereo-sound only. I think that's because the edid of the tv tells my pc that there are only two speakers built in. which i am not using. So here's my question, since i don't get how to get this stuff in hex straight by myself, could you edit the edid so i can get 5.1 sound? with multiple pcm-channels? and a dts-stream would be great but i'm not sure, could that damage my tv if it doesn't support that natively? my soundsystem has a decoder for everything.
many thanks in advance.

Read first update in 1st.post of my sig. You only require an EDID override if AC3 is not listed on the HDMI audio device properties.

EDIT:

The EDID of your TV shows AC3 capability, so you should be able to passthrough multichannel AC3 (provided the application or game is setup to send an AC3 compressed stream).
post #1904 of 3084
Hello.

Is there any chance this EDID could be changed to support to 8 channels in stead of 2?

Many thx for the great work here in this thread.

Kind regards
Jens

 

SamsungEU40D6505.inf.txt 3.0078125k . file
post #1905 of 3084
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Originally Posted by budtz View Post
Hello.

Is there any chance this EDID could be changed to support to 8 channels in stead of 2?

Many thx for the great work here in this thread.

Kind regards
Jens
As above, read first update in 1st.post of my sig.

 

SamsungEU40D6505+6(LPVM,AC3,DTS).zip 1.2841796875k . file
post #1906 of 3084
This may not be the best place to post this as I'm running into a side effect of using an override and I don't really have an override issue per se, but I figured I'd start here...

I've got a couple of PC's in a rack in the basement hooked up to an Octava HDMI Matrix Switch that sends HDMI to my family room surround sound system (with a Denon AVP with the 3D hardware upgrade and a 3D capable Mits RPTV) and HDMI to my bedroom system which just has a Panasonic 1080p plasma (not 3D, but this isn't really an issue). If the matrix is configured to send the same source device to both systems, the EDID it presents to the source is for the most capable system. I've installed an HDMI override that Tulli made that makes the PC's always think they're connected to the most capable system.

Without the override, I have to be careful to have the matrix configured to send each PC to the family room system at boot up in order to get full audio capabilities. Once the boots, the audio capabilities don't change if the HDMI matrix configuration changes.

PC#1 doesn't appear to have any issues. I'm running TheaterTek, J River Media Center, and BeyondTV on this system and so far, audio and video both work well in both rooms for everything I've tried.

PC#2 is used pretty much exclusively for Windows Media Center with a pair of Ceton InfiniTV 4 cards for tuners. It works fine on the family room system. On the bedroom system video works fine and I get audio when navigating Windows Media Center (the blips that you normally get when scrolling through the recorded TV list, for example), but when I try to watch a recording, there's no sound. I'm assuming this is because the PC / Windows Media Center is sending an audio format the TV doesn't support.

One obvious option to resolve the problem with PC#2 is to add a low-end receiver that can handle all the current audio codecs (such as a Denon AVR-1612) and a pair of small speakers (or a sound bar that supports the various audio formats over HDMI) to the bedroom system, but I'd prefer to keep this system as simple as possible. This is a simple solution, but would probably cost at least $400 for a budget receiver and a pair of half way decent speakers (I could pick up a pair of used NHT Super Zero's pretty inexpensively, so the bulk of the cost would be in a receiver).

Another possible solution could be to install a device that could install inline on the HDMI cable, convert all audio formats to 2 channel LPCM, and pass along the original video and down mixed audio to the TV via an HDMI output. This would be nice because it would keep the bedroom system simple. But I'm not aware of any such device.

Is there a simple way (emphasis on simple) to tell Windows Media Center to output audio the TV in the bedroom will support when I want to watch TV in the bedroom and then change back for use in the family room? To keep usability high, I'd rather not have to exit WMC, change my audio config, and restart WMC each time.
post #1907 of 3084
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Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Read first update in 1st.post of my sig. You only require an EDID override if AC3 is not listed on the HDMI audio device properties.

EDIT:

The EDID of your TV shows AC3 capability, so you should be able to passthrough multichannel AC3 (provided the application or game is setup to send an AC3 compressed stream).

Okay, read it. My point was to get uncompressed sound trough my TV to get surround sound in games but that doesn't seem to be possible. I don't think any game i know encodes its audio output in AC3^^
But thanks anyway, now i know.
post #1908 of 3084
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Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

As above, read first update in 1st.post of my sig.

My problem is i can only get dolby digital 5.1 from dts 5.1 or dolby digital 5.1 audio. I have some files that are 6.1 dts-es and theese 7-channel soundtracks do not work. I thought this was because with the above mod i only get 6 and not 7 channels. But i do not know if this is correct. Right now 6.1 tracks just become dolby pro logic II.
post #1909 of 3084
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

This may not be the best place to post this as I'm running into a side effect of using an override and I don't really have an override issue per se, but I figured I'd start here...

I've got a couple of PC's in a rack in the basement hooked up to an Octava HDMI Matrix Switch that sends HDMI to my family room surround sound system (with a Denon AVP with the 3D hardware upgrade and a 3D capable Mits RPTV) and HDMI to my bedroom system which just has a Panasonic 1080p plasma (not 3D, but this isn't really an issue). If the matrix is configured to send the same source device to both systems, the EDID it presents to the source is for the most capable system. I've installed an HDMI override that Tulli made that makes the PC's always think they're connected to the most capable system.

Without the override, I have to be careful to have the matrix configured to send each PC to the family room system at boot up in order to get full audio capabilities. Once the boots, the audio capabilities don't change if the HDMI matrix configuration changes.

PC#1 doesn't appear to have any issues. I'm running TheaterTek, J River Media Center, and BeyondTV on this system and so far, audio and video both work well in both rooms for everything I've tried.

PC#2 is used pretty much exclusively for Windows Media Center with a pair of Ceton InfiniTV 4 cards for tuners. It works fine on the family room system. On the bedroom system video works fine and I get audio when navigating Windows Media Center (the blips that you normally get when scrolling through the recorded TV list, for example), but when I try to watch a recording, there's no sound. I'm assuming this is because the PC / Windows Media Center is sending an audio format the TV doesn't support.

One obvious option to resolve the problem with PC#2 is to add a low-end receiver that can handle all the current audio codecs (such as a Denon AVR-1612) and a pair of small speakers (or a sound bar that supports the various audio formats over HDMI) to the bedroom system, but I'd prefer to keep this system as simple as possible. This is a simple solution, but would probably cost at least $400 for a budget receiver and a pair of half way decent speakers (I could pick up a pair of used NHT Super Zero's pretty inexpensively, so the bulk of the cost would be in a receiver).

Another possible solution could be to install a device that could install inline on the HDMI cable, convert all audio formats to 2 channel LPCM, and pass along the original video and down mixed audio to the TV via an HDMI output. This would be nice because it would keep the bedroom system simple. But I'm not aware of any such device.

Is there a simple way (emphasis on simple) to tell Windows Media Center to output audio the TV in the bedroom will support when I want to watch TV in the bedroom and then change back for use in the family room? To keep usability high, I'd rather not have to exit WMC, change my audio config, and restart WMC each time.

In PC#2 try setting Windows default audio device to 2 channels. In any case it's a WMC issue.
post #1910 of 3084
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Originally Posted by budtz View Post

My problem is i can only get dolby digital 5.1 from dts 5.1 or dolby digital 5.1 audio. I have some files that are 6.1 dts-es and theese 7-channel soundtracks do not work. I thought this was because with the above mod i only get 6 and not 7 channels. But i do not know if this is correct. Right now 6.1 tracks just become dolby pro logic II.

AFAIK Samsung TVs only passthrough dolby digital 5.1.
post #1911 of 3084
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Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

AFAIK Samsung TVs only passthrough dolby digital 5.1.

ah ok so there would be no way to make that work anyway. many thx
post #1912 of 3084
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Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

In PC#2 try setting Windows default audio device to 2 channels. In any case it's a WMC issue.

I'm sure that would fix sound on the bedroom system, but would result in the loss of surround sound on the family room system (when watching TV on PC#2). So it would require exiting WMC each time I want to switch rooms, so it's not really a practical solution from an ease of use perspective.

It's too bad that WMC doesn't have an easy way to switch audio output modes within WMC.

In any event, I realized this wasn't an EDID override issue as the EDID override is doing what it's supposed to do. I was just hoping someone else might have run into the same scenario and had come up with some sort of clever solution.
post #1913 of 3084
i have a mac mini 2011, connected to an onkyo tx-nr809, connected to samsung un55d8000. i already use a custom EDID that Tulli made for me a while back, thanks again. what i want to do now, is create a different custom EDID for a different reason.

mac mini will output 16-235 color space connected to a TV, or 0-255 connected to Monitor. so i'm wondering if this can be done via an EDID. i do use an HDMI Detective already, so i would just program the EDID to that device.
post #1914 of 3084
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Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

In PC#2 try setting Windows default audio device to 2 channels. In any case it's a WMC issue.

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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

I'm sure that would fix sound on the bedroom system, but would result in the loss of surround sound on the family room system (when watching TV on PC#2). So it would require exiting WMC each time I want to switch rooms, so it's not really a practical solution from an ease of use perspective.

It's too bad that WMC doesn't have an easy way to switch audio output modes within WMC.

In any event, I realized this wasn't an EDID override issue as the EDID override is doing what it's supposed to do. I was just hoping someone else might have run into the same scenario and had come up with some sort of clever solution.

I just played around with things a bit. It turned out that the Windows default audio device (the AMD HDMI HD audio device) was already set to 2 channels. It looks like WMC ignores that configuration, so I tried changing the speaker configuration settings in WMC and still couldn't get audio on the TV while playing media after configuring WMC for 2 speakers.

Weird, but it clearly isn't an EDID override issue.
post #1915 of 3084
Hey Tulli,
I came upon this thread after a lot of searches on Google. I have got a Toshiba laptop using an NVidia GeForce GT 330m graphics card connected to a Sony 40CX523 through HDMI. I also have a Sony receiver which does full DTS. I know this works because I’ve got and Xbox connected to the TV through HDMI and audio through optical which I receive full surround sound.
However I cannot get the laptop to do the same. When I check under settings for the HDMI audio properties ac3 or DTS is not listed, it only gives me stereo and that’s it. I was wondering if you could please make an EDID file for so that I can get full surround sound?
Also I still use the laptop screen I only connect it to my TV if I want to watch something, if I install the new file will that change the settings for the laptop display?
Thanks
post #1916 of 3084
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Originally Posted by kish1 View Post
Hey Tulli,
I came upon this thread after a lot of searches on Google. I have got a Toshiba laptop using an NVidia GeForce GT 330m graphics card connected to a Sony 40CX523 through HDMI. I also have a Sony receiver which does full DTS. I know this works because Ive got and Xbox connected to the TV through HDMI and audio through optical which I receive full surround sound.
However I cannot get the laptop to do the same. When I check under settings for the HDMI audio properties ac3 or DTS is not listed, it only gives me stereo and thats it. I was wondering if you could please make an EDID file for so that I can get full surround sound?
Also I still use the laptop screen I only connect it to my TV if I want to watch something, if I install the new file will that change the settings for the laptop display?
Thanks
Try the attached EDID override. No change of settings for the laptop display.

 

Sony 60EX720+6LPCM+6AC3+6DTS.zip 1.2060546875k . file
post #1917 of 3084
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Originally Posted by prophetizer View Post

i have a mac mini 2011, connected to an onkyo tx-nr809, connected to samsung un55d8000. i already use a custom EDID that Tulli made for me a while back, thanks again. what i want to do now, is create a different custom EDID for a different reason.

mac mini will output 16-235 color space connected to a TV, or 0-255 connected to Monitor. so i'm wondering if this can be done via an EDID. i do use an HDMI Detective already, so i would just program the EDID to that device.

Gefen support should deal with the programming with a provided EDID. 0-255 can be forced with an EDID override with no issues for AMD cards; however with Nvidia (at least last time I checked) audio capabillity is lost.
post #1918 of 3084
Thanks for the quick reply.
In device manager there are 2 generic pnp monitors, when I try and update the drivers it says its already up to date, and I cannot rollback the drivers, if I uninstall it will is still show up as generic pnp monitor?

EDIT:
Uninstalled both drivers yet still got the picture on my TV, unistalled it again, diasabled windows update, unplugged and plugged in the HDMI cable, went to device manager and the drivers for some reason where installed. still the same problem
post #1919 of 3084
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

I just played around with things a bit. It turned out that the Windows default audio device (the AMD HDMI HD audio device) was already set to 2 channels. It looks like WMC ignores that configuration, so I tried changing the speaker configuration settings in WMC and still couldn't get audio on the TV while playing media after configuring WMC for 2 speakers.

Weird, but it clearly isn't an EDID override issue.

I played around a bit more. The trick to get sound on the TV in this case is to disable exclusive mode for the HDMI Audio device. Doing so turns off bitstreaming in WMC and then the speaker configuration takes effect and 2 channel LPCM can be sent to the TV. With exclusive mode enabled, WMC will bitstream any format that's listed as supported for the audio device. So this isn't something that I can automate to make it easy to use, but at least I know how to get it to work.

Sorry for the off-topic discussion.
post #1920 of 3084
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Originally Posted by kish1 View Post

Thanks for the quick reply.
In device manager there are 2 generic pnp monitors, when I try and update the drivers it says its already up to date, and I cannot rollback the drivers, if I uninstall it will is still show up as generic pnp monitor?

EDIT:
Uninstalled both drivers yet still got the picture on my TV, unistalled it again, diasabled windows update, unplugged and plugged in the HDMI cable, went to device manager and the drivers for some reason where installed. still the same problem

Follow carefully instructions in 1st. post in my sig.
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