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post #2281 of 2766
Tulli,

Okay, after a week I was able to sit down and go through point 4 on your list. I uninstalled the 6 to 8 additional monitors that showed up. They no longer show up in device mgr, but the following is still there under playback devices:



None of the new audio formats show up as supported any longer. I am still bypassing the 7970 and using the iGPU for all info. I have not deleted Realtek...yet.

I am connected through the receiver currently. Some formats appear supported below, but lots of other strange monitor/receiver info from Moninfo (again this is a 46-48" monitor, not a tablet):

Monitor
Model name............... LG TV
Manufacturer............. LGE
Plug and Play ID......... GSM0001
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2010, ISO week 1
Filter driver............ None
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 160 x 90 mm (7.2 in)
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.330
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.300 - Gy 0.600
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.150 - By 0.060
White point (default).... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 31-82kHz
Vertical scan range...... 57-63Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 160MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 720x480p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync

Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA STD
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA STD
640 x 480p at 60Hz - VESA STD

EIA/CEA-861 Information
Revision number.......... 3
IT underscan............. Supported
Basic audio.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
Native formats........... 4
Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #2....... 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #3....... 1920x1080p at 24Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2558 2602 2750 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
1440 x 480p at 60Hz - DVD (4:3, 4:9)
1440 x 480p at 60Hz - DVD (16:9, 16:27)
2880 x 480p at 60Hz - Console (4:3, 2:9)
2880 x 480p at 60Hz - Console (16:9, 8:27)
NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio data (formats supported)
LPCM 2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
LPCM 8-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
AC-3 6-channel, 640k max. bit rate at 32/44/48 kHz
DTS 7-channel, 1536k max. bit rate at 32/44/48/88/96 kHz
SACD 6-channel at 44 kHz
DD+ 8-channel at 44/48 kHz
DVD-A 8-channel at 48/96/192 kHz
DTS-HD 8-channel, 16-bit at 48/96/192 kHz

CE speaker allocation data
Channel configuration.... 7.1
Front left/right......... Yes
Front LFE................ Yes
Front center............. Yes
Rear left/right.......... Yes
Rear center.............. Yes
Front left/right center.. No
Rear left/right center... Yes
Rear LFE................. No

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
CEC physical address..... 1.0.0.0
Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
Supports 48bpp........... No
Supports 36bpp........... Yes
Supports 30bpp........... Yes
Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... Yes
Supports dual-link DVI... No
Maximum TMDS clock....... 225MHz
Audio/video latency (p).. n/a
Audio/video latency (i).. n/a
HDMI video capabilities.. No
Data payload............. 030C001000B82D00

CE colorimetry data
xvYCC709 support......... Yes
xvYCC601 support......... Yes
sYCC601 support.......... No
AdobeYCC601 support...... No
AdobeRGB support......... No
Metadata profile flags... 0x01

Report information
Date generated........... 10/11/2012
Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
Data source.............. Real-time 0x0061
Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

Raw data
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post #2282 of 2766
That EDID is already a merge of a 720p LG with HD audio, so it can be used to override. But a driver clean reinstall would be needed first anyway.
post #2283 of 2766
I knew this was a merge of the two b/c I was connected to the receiver, but its the totally wrong info that has me frustrated and confused, as it's a 1080p monitor. I said 46-48, but I think it's the 42" model of the LE5400:

Screen size: 42-inch class (42 inches diagonal)
Resolution: 1920 x 1080 (1080p Full HD)
Dynamic contrast ratio: 4,000,000:1
Viewing angle: 178 degrees horizontal/vertical
Response time: 2.6ms
Built-in tuner: ATSC/NTSC/Clear QAM
Audio output: 20 watts (10W x 2)
Speaker system: 2-way, 4 speakers
Dolby Digital decoder: Yes
Surround system: Infinite Sound

Strange. I'll connect to the monitor, bypass the receiver, and re-post (I'm sure the info is still corrupted since I've done it before). I'll follow your instructions on the receiver and post it too...I'd REALLY like to find the source of this problem.
Edited by kluvlaw - 10/12/12 at 11:58am
post #2284 of 2766
The screen size reported in the EDID is for informational purposes only and does not affect any settings or functionality. We can set it to say you have a 52 ft diagonal screen if you like. wink.gif
post #2285 of 2766
I've posted on the LG LE5400 monitor forum to see if someone can provide EDID info that is not corrupted.

Here is the monitor only info when 7970 is connected to monitor (looks like 128 bit info...no real time option is showing up):

Monitor
Model name............... LG TV
Windows description...... Generic PnP Monitor LG TV
Manufacturer............. LGE
Plug and Play ID......... GSM0001
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2010, ISO week 1
Filter driver............ Monitor
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 160 x 90 mm (7.2 in)
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... 1 (Unknown - 0x00)
DDC/CI................... n/a

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.330
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.300 - Gy 0.600
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.150 - By 0.060
White point (default).... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 31-82kHz
Vertical scan range...... 57-63Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 160MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA STD
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA STD
640 x 480p at 60Hz - VESA STD

Report information
Date generated........... 10/13/2012
Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
Data source.............. Registry-Active
Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

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This is the is the Yamaha rx-v 3900 receiver info (again, real time is not showing up, so I assume it's 128 bit and not useful for an over ride):

Monitor
Model name............... RX-V3900
Windows description...... Generic PnP Monitor RX-V3900
Manufacturer............. Yamaha
Plug and Play ID......... YMH3130
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2008, ISO week 0
Filter driver............ Monitor
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. Undefined or variable
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... 1 (Unknown - 0x00)
DDC/CI................... n/a

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.625 - Ry 0.340
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.280 - Gy 0.595
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.155 - By 0.070
White point (default).... Wx 0.283 - Wy 0.298
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 15-91kHz
Vertical scan range...... 49-121Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 150MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080i at 50Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported

Report information
Date generated........... 10/13/2012
Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
Data source.............. Registry
Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

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post #2286 of 2766
onkyo609 and samsung 60es6100˘
I need you dts and dolby digital fix

moninfogetedit.zip 5k .zip file
post #2287 of 2766
Quote:
Originally Posted by kluvlaw View Post

I've posted on the LG LE5400 monitor forum to see if someone can provide EDID info that is not corrupted....

Yes, both captures are only 128 bytes.
post #2288 of 2766
Quote:
Originally Posted by rudi77 View Post

onkyo609 and samsung 60es6100˘
I need you dts and dolby digital fix
moninfogetedit.zip 5k .zip file

Wait, are TrueHD and DTS-HD listed as "Supported Formats" for the HDMI audio device? What is your graphic adapter? Have you tried with different players?
post #2289 of 2766
Sorry im bad file send.
This is good file: moninfogetedit.zip 5k .zip file
post #2290 of 2766
Quote:
Originally Posted by rudi77 View Post

Sorry im bad file send.
This is good file: moninfogetedit.zip 5k .zip file

...

Samsung 58c6500 - ONKYO TX-NR609.zip 1k .zip file
post #2291 of 2766
Tulli, I've seen "[Real time ...]" 256 bit info before, but I think it was when I was connected via the HDMI on the motherboard rather than through the 7970. I've been through Moninfo's file menu's and cannot find any option to get "[Real time ...]" info back.

Since it's the monitor info I'm capturing, would it matter if I'm using the motherboard HDMI? If not, I'll make the switch and try again.
post #2292 of 2766
The capture with the motherboard HDMI will be fine.
post #2293 of 2766
Can EDID Override be used as a workaround for a TV that lacks an HDCP compatible HDMI port for PC? The reason I ask is because the Nvidia Control Panel sometimes shows my TV as HDCP compatible, but usually it doesn't.

I have a Panasonic TC-L32U3 TV that may only have one HDCP compliant HDMI port, which is the main video input with ARC that has to be used with my receiver, otherwise my Blu-ray player might not pass HD video to the TV.

I recently tried upgrading my GTS 250 GPU with an MSI 660 Ti that has HDMI with HD audio. The W7 Sound panel shows Nvidia HD Audio device as unplugged and NCP usually shows my TV as not being HDCP compatible (for PC anyway).

I can use optical audio from the PC to the receiver, but neither DVI port on the GPU wil allow me to boot to desktop. The HDMI port usually alows me to boot to destop, but then I get black screen when trying to switch input modes on the TV from TV to PC.

I hooked my PC tower up to a neighbor's TV that is HDCP compatible and it booted to desktop via a DVI to HDMI cable and had no problem switching from TV to PC and back without black screen. The last MSI tech I spoke to seemed to think it was a problem with my TV not being HDCP compatible for PC use.
post #2294 of 2766
AFAIK HDCP and EDID are unrelated.
post #2295 of 2766
Hello, I was hoping someone could help me. I have an old Sony KP-46WT510 rear projection TV that supports 1080i. It has a DVI input in the back and I'm trying to connect my laptop computer with Intel HD 3000 graphics to it via HDMI to DVI cable. The problem is, the computer refuses to show 1080i as an available graphics mode once I plug it in. My best guess is that here is something wrong with the EDID that the television is reporting and I want to find some way to override this and force the laptop to output at 1920x1080i at 60Hz. Is this possible? I know intel HD 3000 supports 1080i since it works on one of my flat panel screens.

I did MonInfo for my television, and this is what I got:
Code:
Monitor
  Model name............... SONY TV
  Manufacturer............. Sony
  Plug and Play ID......... SNY00F8
  Serial number............ n/a
  Manufacture date......... 2002, ISO week 0
  Filter driver............ None
  -------------------------
  EDID revision............ 1.3
  Input signal type........ Digital
  Color bit depth.......... Undefined
  Display type............. RGB color
  Screen size.............. Undefined or variable
  Power management......... Not supported
  Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
  Default color space...... Non-sRGB
  Display gamma............ 2.20
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.625 - Ry 0.340
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.280 - Gy 0.595
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.155 - By 0.070
  White point (default).... Wx 0.283 - Wy 0.298
  Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
  Horizontal scan range.... 15-46kHz
  Vertical scan range...... 59-61Hz
  Video bandwidth.......... 80MHz
  CVT standard............. Not supported
  GTF standard............. Not supported
  Additional descriptors... None
  Preferred timing......... Yes
  Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080i at 60Hz 
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #1....... 720x480p at 60Hz 
    Modeline............... "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync

Standard timings supported
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA

EIA/CEA-861 Information
  Revision number.......... 1
  IT underscan............. Not supported
  Basic audio.............. Not supported
  YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Not supported
  YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Not supported
  Native formats........... 0
  Detailed timing #1....... 1280x720p at 60Hz 
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #2....... 1440x480i at 60Hz 
    Modeline............... "1440x480" 27.000 1440 1478 1602 1716 480 488 494 524 interlace -hsync -vsync

Report information
  Date generated........... 10/13/2012
  Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
  Data source.............. Real-time 0x0041
  Operating system......... 6.1.7600.2

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Thanks so much !!
post #2296 of 2766
Unfortunately EDID override is not possible on Intel HD3000 (and Intel IGPs in general; not sure about HD4000).
post #2297 of 2766
My memory served me correctly and the real time date was available immediately through the motherboard (any idea why it's available through one HDMI connection and not the other?):

Monitor
Model name............... LG TV
Manufacturer............. LGE
Plug and Play ID......... GSM0001
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2010, ISO week 1
Filter driver............ None
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 160 x 90 mm (7.2 in)
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.330
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.300 - Gy 0.600
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.150 - By 0.060
White point (default).... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 31-82kHz
Vertical scan range...... 57-63Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 160MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA STD
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA STD
640 x 480p at 60Hz - VESA STD

EIA/CEA-861 Information
Revision number.......... 3
IT underscan............. Supported
Basic audio.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
Native formats........... 1
Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1096 1116 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #2....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #3....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #4....... 720x480p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync
Detailed timing #5....... 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 138.620 1920 1968 2000 2080 1080 1082 1087 1111 +hsync -vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 30Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio data (formats supported)
LPCM 2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48 kHz

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
CEC physical address..... 2.0.0.0
Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
Supports 48bpp........... No
Supports 36bpp........... Yes
Supports 30bpp........... Yes
Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... Yes
Supports dual-link DVI... No
Maximum TMDS clock....... 225MHz

CE colorimetry data
xvYCC709 support......... Yes
xvYCC601 support......... Yes
sYCC601 support.......... No
AdobeYCC601 support...... No
AdobeRGB support......... No
Metadata profile flags... 0x01

Report information
Date generated........... 10/20/2012
Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
Data source.............. Real-time 0x0061
Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

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Here is the receiver info (the new HD codecs still do not show up in the properties even though my motherboard is compatible with them all up to 192 kHz):

Monitor
Model name............... LG TV
Manufacturer............. LGE
Plug and Play ID......... GSM0001
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2010, ISO week 1
Filter driver............ None
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 160 x 90 mm (7.2 in)
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.330
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.300 - Gy 0.600
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.150 - By 0.060
White point (default).... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 31-82kHz
Vertical scan range...... 57-63Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 160MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 720x480p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync

Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA STD
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA STD
640 x 480p at 60Hz - VESA STD

EIA/CEA-861 Information
Revision number.......... 3
IT underscan............. Supported
Basic audio.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
Native formats........... 4
Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #2....... 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #3....... 1920x1080p at 24Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2558 2602 2750 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
1440 x 480p at 60Hz - DVD (4:3, 4:9)
1440 x 480p at 60Hz - DVD (16:9, 16:27)
2880 x 480p at 60Hz - Console (4:3, 2:9)
2880 x 480p at 60Hz - Console (16:9, 8:27)
NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio data (formats supported)
LPCM 2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
LPCM 8-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
AC-3 6-channel, 640k max. bit rate at 32/44/48 kHz
DTS 7-channel, 1536k max. bit rate at 32/44/48/88/96 kHz
SACD 6-channel at 44 kHz
DD+ 8-channel at 44/48 kHz
DVD-A 8-channel at 48/96/192 kHz
DTS-HD 8-channel, 16-bit at 48/96/192 kHz

CE speaker allocation data
Channel configuration.... 7.1
Front left/right......... Yes
Front LFE................ Yes
Front center............. Yes
Rear left/right.......... Yes
Rear center.............. Yes
Front left/right center.. No
Rear left/right center... Yes
Rear LFE................. No

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
CEC physical address..... 1.0.0.0
Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
Supports 48bpp........... No
Supports 36bpp........... Yes
Supports 30bpp........... Yes
Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... Yes
Supports dual-link DVI... No
Maximum TMDS clock....... 225MHz
Audio/video latency (p).. n/a
Audio/video latency (i).. n/a
HDMI video capabilities.. No
Data payload............. 030C001000B82D00

CE colorimetry data
xvYCC709 support......... Yes
xvYCC601 support......... Yes
sYCC601 support.......... No
AdobeYCC601 support...... No
AdobeRGB support......... No
Metadata profile flags... 0x01

Report information
Date generated........... 10/20/2012
Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
Data source.............. Real-time 0x0061
Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

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I also found the following info on an AMD forum that looks similar to my issues since installing 12.8 (and I'll see with GPUz if I have similar results with power to my pci-e):

"I am having a problem with audio out of my HD7970 to My Samsung TV VIA HDMI, Audio is dropping out on avg every 2-3 sec, making playing movies or music impossible/all other days I use Headphones,with no problem. (YES)
I have tried 12.4 , 12.6 and 12.7 also tried Realtek R2.70 Drivers no difference audio still dropping. (YES, EXCEPT 12.4)

I have found a work around, I have noticed in GPUz that the BUS Interface at idle is 1.1 , when the card needs to be working on something more taxing e.g. (game) it bumps up to 2.0.
When playing media at GPU idle, sound drops in/out. When I use the GPUz Render Test, which makes the GPU BUS Interface works at 2.0. Magic all the audio dropping is fixed, all music and movies work with no sound dropping over HDMI.

Can some one suggest a way to stop the Mother board from power saving the PCI-E slot?
I have tried Power Options PCI Express>Link State Power Management>Setting>OFF
Or is there a driver that works properly?"
post #2298 of 2766
post #2299 of 2766
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Unfortunately EDID override is not possible on Intel HD3000 (and Intel IGPs in general; not sure about HD4000).

Even though it is a simple matter of getting the card to output a basic resolution like 1080i? Could you tell anything from the MonInfo report that would cause the Intel HD3000 to think that my television doesn't support 1080i?

Oddly enough, it seems to think I can display 1920x1080 at 20Hz, 25Hz, or 30Hz (progressive). I tried all these modes, but only the 30Hz gave me a picture. The picture looked quite dim though, and I was afraid I might be damaging the television by leaving that on an unsupported mode (1080p at 30Hz?), so I turned it off.

Thanks for any input you have. smile.gif
post #2300 of 2766
The EDID is fine, so the problem is with the driver detection of the EDID. But as I said, the EDID override feature is not accepted by Intel IGPs and the only EDID manipulation for Intel that I'm aware of is with the DTD calculator.
post #2301 of 2766
Quote:
Originally Posted by thedealman View Post

Even though it is a simple matter of getting the card to output a basic resolution like 1080i? Could you tell anything from the MonInfo report that would cause the Intel HD3000 to think that my television doesn't support 1080i?
Oddly enough, it seems to think I can display 1920x1080 at 20Hz, 25Hz, or 30Hz (progressive). I tried all these modes, but only the 30Hz gave me a picture. The picture looked quite dim though, and I was afraid I might be damaging the television by leaving that on an unsupported mode (1080p at 30Hz?), so I turned it off.
Thanks for any input you have. smile.gif
1920x1080 30Hz = 1080i
1920x1080 60Hz = 1080p
post #2302 of 2766
Quote:
Originally Posted by vladd View Post

1920x1080 30Hz = 1080i
1920x1080 60Hz = 1080p

Is that right? Even though the MonInfo file says 1920x1080i @ 60Hz?
So it's 'safe' to run the television at 1920x1080 at 30Hz then?

There were two problems when I ran that mode that made me worry. First the picture looked really dim, even though my Xbox at 1080i looks perfect. And secondly, there was lots of overscan so I couldn't access any of the OS menus.
post #2303 of 2766
The Intel driver is not correctly detecting the 1080i timings of your TV (and "1920x1080@30Hz" in the driver does not give proper timings). Of course you won't "break" your TV by using it, but AFAIK other than (maybe) the DTD calculator, the other solution would be a Gefen Detective between the PC and the TV, set to pre-programmed, standard 1080i timings. It is an expensive solution though (~$100).

P.D.:

Try unticking the "Hide modes that this monitor cannot display" in the advanced options of the display and select a 29.97 or 30Hz refresh rate at 1920x1080.
Edited by Tulli - 10/22/12 at 6:48am
post #2304 of 2766
Hey Tulli, you helped me a while ago with some issues I was having with my Onkyo NR515 and Panasonic TV and Optoma projector. I hit some issues but will pick up on this again soon.

I have a question specifically around receivers with dual HDMI output like the Onkyo NR515.

My media centre is connected to the receiver by a single HDMI, then the TV is on the MAIN output of the receiver and the projector is on the SUB output. When outputs are switched on the receiver does windows7 allow for multiple overrides (i.e. a different override per output as the TV and projector have different capabilities)? I'm wondering if others have had success specifically with dual output receivers?

If I want to follow up with Onkyo Japan, what is a real reason for this not working properly in the first place? Is it the way the NR515 is merging the video capabilities from the output device with the audio capabilities of the receiver, or could it be related to the fact my TV is an HDMI 1.4 device and my projector is a 1.3 device?

thanks again everyone for an awesome thread!
post #2305 of 2766
AFAIK the EDID override would apply to the NR515 display device, regardless of the detected, real-time EDID, so no chance of multiple overrides for one single connection/display device.

Is the NR515 not replicating the corresponding video capabilities of the TV and proj. when switching? Have you compared the detected EDIDs?
post #2306 of 2766
thanks. The problem I have is that if I connect the projector directly to the HTPC then I'm able to set the desktop to 1280x720 at 120HZ. As soon as the signal goes via the NR515, I can't put the projector into 120HZ mode. The only way I can get 120HZ through the N$R515 is if I manually merge the first 128byte block from the projector with the 128byte block from the receiver in the way RandomFoe originally suggested at the start of this thread. However when I try RandomFoe method then I can't get HD audio - I get everything in PCM and I have additional unreliability with switch on/off order which I don't have with the standard monitor driver.

If I try your override files, then I don't get 120HZ through.
If I use the moninfo function of merging in an extension block then I can't get 120HZ through either.
If I connect the HD66 direct to the HTPC, then 120hz mode works perfectly.

I've attached the moninfo traces (with a txt extension so I can upload them). I can see some differences but have no idea why it would stop 120HZ going through - any ideas?

In these traces I had disconnected the TV to rule out issues with a device on the other HDMI output impacting the way the NR515 was merging.

It's driving me nuts!

The issue must be on the NR515 side - but I'm just trying to collect enough debug information so they can look at their firmware and don't know where to go next.

amd-hd66-realtime.bin.txt 0k .txt file amd-nr515-hd66-realtime.bin.txt 0k .txt file
post #2307 of 2766
This is odd. Native resolution of the proj., also replicated in the AVR EDID, is 1312x800@59. Never seen something like it:

post #2308 of 2766
Thanks Tulli, I've just had some feedback from Onkyo Japan and they have been able to replicate the issue with 120hz pass-through not working on the NR515 to an Optoma HD33 (1080p HDMI1.4 version of the HD66) from a PC so they have sent the traces through to their engineering department. So I'm probably going to wait to see what Onkyo can do.

The native resolution is indeed odd (via moninfo I don't see that) as the native resolution is most definitely 1280x800 (I replaced the DMD chip on the projector a few months ago so I can confirm this).

I still can't believe HDMI is the cause of so many issues - it's not like HDMI 1.3 is new - it seems to have been out since 2006 but these sorts of issues here seem to be just the tip of the iceberg.
post #2309 of 2766
Hi Tulli, seen your great work and would like to ask for an override for my HTPC --> Onkyo sr-607 --> Panasonic PX70 (all connections via HDMI).

All my audio formats works perfectly though i am wondering if an EDID override can help me force the HTPC to always output 1280x720 (60Hz).

Also if it is possible to keep the audio path open to the receiver if i am playing audio through WASAPI even if i turn on or turn off the TV.
With my current setup the PAP is broken and the wasapi playback crashes.

I will attach the EDIDs for both devices.

Hopefully these issues can be resolved by this fix.

Thanks!

EDIDs.zip 5k .zip file
Edited by Frippeee - 10/25/12 at 12:25am
post #2310 of 2766
Here's your mod:

Panasonic PX70 - ONKYO sr-607 (720p@60Hz).zip 1k .zip file

The broken audio path cannot be solved via an EDID override. A Gefen Detective device that keeps the HDMI connection opened would be the solution. Or just use an S/PDIF connection if it is good enough, regarding bandwidth, for your audio needs.
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