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post #2371 of 3084
Is there an INF out there that works for a 2012 Samsung 3Dtv? My exact model is the 55ES7500. I'm trying to find one that allows me to output 5.1 surround to the TV while retaining all 3D properties for use with Nvidia 3D vision.
Edited by CeeJayII - 12/10/12 at 10:45am
post #2372 of 3084
See if the following EDID override works for your Samsung. Otherwise post the real-time EDID:

Samsung UE40ES7000+(2LPCM,AC3&DTS,6Spkrs).zip 1k .zip file
post #2373 of 3084
Tulli & all, Would an EDID override of some sort help my situation as follows?:

I had an existing setup as follows that worked great.

HTPC (Nvidia gts450)->>>HDMI Spliitter->>>>one output to a Pioneer VSX-01 (Samsung Plasma) and the other to a Pioneer VSX-21 (Epson projector). This worked great to output the HTPC to either AVR/display both individually or at the same time. I originally turned on the HTPC with just the VSX-21 connected to the splitter which Windows 7 would from then on report as the attached device even with the VSX-01 attached to the splitter.

So now the problem, I switched out the VSX-21 for a Denon 4311, Now I can only have the display work on one device. When I first installed the Denon win7 still thought the 21 was attached and the display showed through the VSX-01 but not the Denon (although audio worked.) So I restarted the computer with just the Denon and HTPC plugged into the splitter. After doing that Win7 sees the Denon as a monitor and audio device and I can get the display to work however now their is no display through the VSX-01 when also connected to the splitter. I realize now that this worked originally because the Pioneers were basically the same AVR. So is there a way to create an EDID so that even though the HTPC would see the Denon that it would still pass the proper info for the pioneer to work?

Thanks in advance!

PS Double posted this in the other edid thread as not sure which is right
post #2374 of 3084
Hey everyone,

I'm trying to bitstream HD audio in MKV/M2TS from my PC (Nvidia GT-520) to my Denon AVR-1713 for decoding. The picture is then sent out from the AVR to my 60" LG Plasma.

I've followed all the guides out there but I can't get the HD audio to bitstream to the receiver. The best I get is DTS/Dolby, The video card in my PC supports bitstreaming HD audio and the Denon 1713 is capable of decoding HD audio so this should work.

Under the "Supported Formats" of the Sound Control panel I don't see HD audio listed. See the pic below. I understand this could be the source of my problems and it might be the result of an EDID issue,.I'm using HDMI 1.4 cable.

This is all new to me so I'm not sure if my EDID suspicions are correct. Does someone care to chime in? If it is an EDID issue, I'll get to work on dumping the data for you.

Thanks a bunch.






Edited by gliese581g - 12/10/12 at 9:11pm
post #2375 of 3084
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

See if the following EDID override works for your Samsung. Otherwise post the real-time EDID:
Samsung UE40ES7000+(2LPCM,AC3&DTS,6Spkrs).zip 1k .zip file

Still only showing up as a 2 channel output when I look at hdmi output properties. Here is my real-time inf renamed to .txt Hopefully this will work. Thanks so much for your help and generosity. 55es7500.txt 2k .txt file
post #2376 of 3084
Quote:
Originally Posted by CeeJayII View Post

Still only showing up as a 2 channel output when I look at hdmi output properties. Here is my real-time inf renamed to .txt Hopefully this will work. Thanks so much for your help and generosity. 55es7500.txt 2k .txt file

It must show as 2 channels LPCM, which is the maximum bandwidth of S/PDIF. Just set your player to stream 5.1 DD and it will work. DTS most probably won't work natively, but encapsulated in a WAV format (2-channels).
post #2377 of 3084
Quote:
Originally Posted by gliese581g View Post

Hey everyone,
I'm trying to bitstream HD audio in MKV/M2TS from my PC (Nvidia GT-520) to my Denon AVR-1713 for decoding. The picture is then sent out from the AVR to my 60" LG Plasma.
I've followed all the guides out there but I can't get the HD audio to bitstream to the receiver. The best I get is DTS/Dolby, The video card in my PC supports bitstreaming HD audio and the Denon 1713 is capable of decoding HD audio so this should work.
Under the "Supported Formats" of the Sound Control panel I don't see HD audio listed. See the pic below. I understand this could be the source of my problems and it might be the result of an EDID issue,.I'm using HDMI 1.4 cable.
This is all new to me so I'm not sure if my EDID suspicions are correct. Does someone care to chime in? If it is an EDID issue, I'll get to work on dumping the data for you.
Thanks a bunch.

What is the set up resolution of your TV? It must be HDTV (1080p/i or 720p) to bitstream HD audio. Otherwise see 1st thread in my sig, for an EDID override closest to your TV (disregard the AVR if necessary). Or capture the real time EDID of your TV with moninfo (see instr. in my sig.) and post it.
post #2378 of 3084
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

What is the set up resolution of your TV? It must be HDTV (1080p/i or 720p) to bitstream HD audio. Otherwise see 1st thread in my sig, for an EDID override closest to your TV (disregard the AVR if necessary). Or capture the real time EDID of your TV with moninfo (see instr. in my sig.) and post it.

MY TV is 1080p and is set up for this resolution. Here's the specific model number: http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-60PV450-plasma-tv

I'll get to work on grabbing the EDID info for you tonight.

When you say an EDID override closest to your TV I'm not sure I know what you mean.

This is how I have things set up now PC (GT520) --> Denon AVR 1713 --> LG Plasma.

Do I keep things the same when grabbing the EDID?
post #2379 of 3084
"Closest" means more similar TV model.

Capture the real time EDID by directly connecting to the TV (not passing through the AVR).
post #2380 of 3084
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

It must show as 2 channels LPCM, which is the maximum bandwidth of S/PDIF. Just set your player to stream 5.1 DD and it will work. DTS most probably won't work natively, but encapsulated in a WAV format (2-channels).

Will this also work for games that use 5.1 DD. I don't think there is a way to force surround when it comes to games.
post #2381 of 3084
Quote:
Originally Posted by CeeJayII View Post

Will this also work for games that use 5.1 DD. I don't think there is a way to force surround when it comes to games.

Yes.
post #2382 of 3084
Some 1 that can make a proper edid file that also can be flashed on tv itself?

Is for a samsung ue40d5000 u want to add ac3 5.1 so that I can use my decoder with dolby channels trough hdmi.
post #2383 of 3084
These EDID overrides cannot be flashed to the TV. Even if you flashed your TV, it will most likely not work. Most TVs will only decode AC-3 from the tuner, not any of the HDMI inputs.
post #2384 of 3084
Zo even if edid says ac3 5.1 support , whene set decoder to ac3 trough hdmi I wont here any sound trough tv speakers?
post #2385 of 3084
Correct. All the EDID does is tell the PC what the TV is capable of doing. Overrides are to fix EDID errors, they will not make the TV capable of doing things it was not designed to do.

Some TVs actually can decode AC-3 on HDMI ports but they report that correctly in the EDID. If your TV is not reporting it already, it's not capable of doing it and an EDID flash would not change that.
post #2386 of 3084
Quote:
Originally Posted by gliese581g View Post

Hey everyone,
I'm trying to bitstream HD audio in MKV/M2TS from my PC (Nvidia GT-520) to my Denon AVR-1713 for decoding. The picture is then sent out from the AVR to my 60" LG Plasma.
I've followed all the guides out there but I can't get the HD audio to bitstream to the receiver. The best I get is DTS/Dolby, The video card in my PC supports bitstreaming HD audio and the Denon 1713 is capable of decoding HD audio so this should work.
Under the "Supported Formats" of the Sound Control panel I don't see HD audio listed. See the pic below. I understand this could be the source of my problems and it might be the result of an EDID issue,.I'm using HDMI 1.4 cable.
This is all new to me so I'm not sure if my EDID suspicions are correct. Does someone care to chime in? If it is an EDID issue, I'll get to work on dumping the data for you.
Thanks a bunch.

I have an LG TV as well and am unable to bitstream HD audio. Same deal in that HD formats do not show up in the 'Supported Formats' box. Maybe it's an LG tv thing? I have this connected via an Onkyo AVR to the onboard HD4000 video.
post #2387 of 3084
Do you have your AVR's HDMI audio setting set to "passthrough" or "TV"?
post #2388 of 3084
Mine's an LG 47LV4400. It has a Dolby Digital decoder on board. I have a digital to analog decoder on the LG's SPDIF to push the sound from the TV through an analog 5.1 speaker set rather than the tinny little speakers LG puts in there to convince you to buy their soundbar...

The TV outputs 5.1 to the thing from the cable box connected via HDMIs, and from the XBox 360, also connected to the beast via HDMI- these work great. My W7Pro 64bit HTPC, however, only sees a 2 channel device when it looks at the LG, so I only get 2 channel stereo from the HTPC, which the digital to analog decoder does a poor job with. I would like to use an override so windows will output to the TV as having Dolby 5.1 since I won't be buying a decent receiver for the setup until I finish remodeling the entire house... Video card is a Galaxy GT520 (nvidia chip).

Is an override the right approach? I've seen a lot about passthroughs and the like, but how would I just add this audio stuff? MonInf show no audio section at all in the TVs alarmingly brief EDID:

Monitor
Model name............... 47LV4400
Windows description...... Generic PnP Monitor 47LV4400
Manufacturer............. LGE
Plug and Play ID......... GSM0001
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2011, ISO week 22
Filter driver............ None
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 1040 x 590 mm (47.1 in)
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... 1 (Unknown - 0x00)
DDC/CI................... n/a

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.639 - Ry 0.343
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.316 - Gy 0.595
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.152 - By 0.058
White point (default).... Wx 0.279 - Wy 0.292
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 31-70kHz
Vertical scan range...... 50-77Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 150MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1096 1116 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA STD
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA STD
640 x 480p at 60Hz - VESA STD

Report information
Date generated........... 12/20/2012
Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
Data source.............. Registry-Active
Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

Raw data
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post #2389 of 3084
post #2390 of 3084
Thanks, Tulli! I'll give that a shot.

Q: Is there a "guide" to what each section of the .inf file can contain, the potential values and their meanings? I'd really like to understand better how to mod a .inf, but am either having a block over what I am able to find, or haven't yet stumbled upon that bit of info that would allow me to add this to my bag of tricks.

And thanks again for solving my immediate problem smile.gif
post #2391 of 3084
post #2392 of 3084
Thanks - that was the missing bit!
post #2393 of 3084
Here is a puzzle, should you know how to solve it Tulli. The PS3 3D display is not recognized by Nvidia 3D vision as a device that can dislpay 3d in games, only movies. It is an active 3d display at 240hz. I was think maybe we could spoof the inf. with a display that is recognized by 3d vision or 3dtv play. Is this something you might be able to tackle? I have attached the inf for the model and renamed it as .txt

SCE0301.txt 2k .txt file
post #2394 of 3084
I'm actually unsure whether the inf I posted previously is the correct format, so I'm posting another just in case. Noob here smile.gif SCE0301.txt 3k .txt file
post #2395 of 3084
I am looking for a EDID override for my LG 32LD350. I did my best searching to see if anybody else posted. I am stuck with only 2 channel audio through HDMI in Windows 7. I am running the HDMI from my nVidia 550ti directly to my LG. Here is my real time report from MonInfo if anybody can help me out! Is there any more information needed?
Code:
Monitor
  Model name............... LG TV
  Manufacturer............. LGE
  Plug and Play ID......... GSM0001
  Serial number............ n/a
  Manufacture date......... 2009, ISO week 1
  Filter driver............ None
  -------------------------
  EDID revision............ 1.3
  Input signal type........ Digital
  Color bit depth.......... Undefined
  Display type............. RGB color
  Screen size.............. 1150 x 650 mm (52.0 in)
  Power management......... Not supported
  Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
  Default color space...... Non-sRGB
  Display gamma............ 2.20
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.340
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.300 - Gy 0.690
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.138 - By 0.038
  White point (default).... Wx 0.282 - Wy 0.297
  Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
  Horizontal scan range.... 31-60kHz
  Vertical scan range...... 57-63Hz
  Video bandwidth.......... 90MHz
  CVT standard............. Not supported
  GTF standard............. Not supported
  Additional descriptors... None
  Preferred timing......... Yes
  Native/preferred timing.. 1360x768p at 60Hz 
    Modeline............... "1360x768" 85.500 1360 1424 1536 1792 768 771 777 795 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #1....... 1280x720p at 60Hz 
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
     720 x  400p at  70Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA
     800 x  600p at  60Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA
    1280 x  720p at  60Hz - VESA STD

EIA/CEA-861 Information
  Revision number.......... 3
  IT underscan............. Supported
  Basic audio.............. Supported
  YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
  YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
  Native formats........... 1
  Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080p at 60Hz 
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1096 1116 1125 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #2....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz 
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #3....... 1280x720p at 60Hz 
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #4....... 720x480p at 60Hz 
    Modeline............... "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync
  Detailed timing #5....... 1920x1080p at 60Hz 
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 138.620 1920 1968 2000 2080 1080 1082 1087 1111 +hsync -vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
    1920 x 1080p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  30Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1280 x  720p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
    NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio data (formats supported)
  LPCM    2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48 kHz

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
  IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
  CEC physical address..... 1.0.0.0
  Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
  Supports 48bpp........... No
  Supports 36bpp........... Yes
  Supports 30bpp........... Yes
  Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... Yes
  Supports dual-link DVI... No
  Maximum TMDS clock....... 225MHz

Report information
  Date generated........... 12/29/2012
  Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
  Data source.............. Real-time 0x0051
  Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

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post #2396 of 3084
I've been playing with the override provided, and am either not quite understanding things, or have bumped up against an override limitation. Thanks to Tulli's file, the HTPC now sees the 47LV4400 as having Dolby, but it is still only sees the two channels. Is there a way to "convince" the HTPC that the LG has a 5.1 speaker setup via the override, or am I barking up the wrong tree?

Thanks again for all your help. I'm usually a little quicker on the uptake, but this EDID stuff seems to be drawing circles around my head...
post #2397 of 3084
Quote:
Originally Posted by sayocean View Post

I am looking for a EDID override for my LG 32LD350. I did my best searching to see if anybody else posted. I am stuck with only 2 channel audio through HDMI in Windows 7. I am running the HDMI from my nVidia 550ti directly to my LG. Here is my real time report from MonInfo if anybody can help me out! Is there any more information needed?

LG 32LD350 (AC3 & DTS).zip 1k .zip file
post #2398 of 3084
Quote:
Originally Posted by thejanitor View Post

I've been playing with the override provided, and am either not quite understanding things, or have bumped up against an override limitation. Thanks to Tulli's file, the HTPC now sees the 47LV4400 as having Dolby, but it is still only sees the two channels. Is there a way to "convince" the HTPC that the LG has a 5.1 speaker setup via the override, or am I barking up the wrong tree?
Thanks again for all your help. I'm usually a little quicker on the uptake, but this EDID stuff seems to be drawing circles around my head...

Max bandwidth for uncompressed audio over S/PDIF is 2 channels LPCM, which is windows detection. Of course to send multichannel it must be a compressed audio stream (e. g. AC3).
post #2399 of 3084
I have the problem where my Windows 7 HTPC is not recognizing my AVR. I have set up everything correctly according to this forum topic http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=146911 . However the windows system only seems to see my TV. Now i can play 5.1 DTS fine and it is playing through my 5.1 system as i am getting sound through all of the speakers. However when I try to play HD audio, video playback starts to stutter and i have no sound frown.gif Disabling the HD audio options in xbmc allows the audio to work again and playback is fine but i'm not getting HD audio then frown.gif Here is my setup.



HTPC = AMD A10-5700, Windows 7, XBMC FRODO RC2 --> AVR = AVR Samsung HT-D6750W.txt 1k .txt file --> TV = TV LG LM670T.txt 1k .txt file

Thanks in advance to anyone that can solve this issue for me.
Edited by eProDarkAngel - 12/30/12 at 7:25pm
post #2400 of 3084
Hello everyone!

So I'm yet another noob getting on board here, hoping to find some help with solving his problem. Case is as many previous ones:

To get the 5.1 sound out from notebook (w/ NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M) with HDMI to pass through Sony Bravia KDL-46EX720 over to an old Technics SA DX930 home theater amp.
In other words: GT650M >> HDMI >> TV SONY EX720 >> S/PIDF >> AMP

My Windows 8 says I can only get 2 channels. However, upon the same setup the TV can pass 5.1 with no problem when other source is connected to it (Blu-ray player, VG consoles). So I presume this must be the case of EDID info going back from the TV to Windows.
I tried to use one of Tulli's files with the override combo (EX720 + an Onkyo amp), but it didn't work, not sure if becasue of the wrong amp, or a completely mistaken approach from my side. I hardly get the problem in general, but from what I've gathered so far, the best way to get things work is to hope for Tulli to mod the file I attach smile.gif I would really appreciate any help! Thanks in advance!

Best regards!
Tomasz

SONY BRAVIA KDL-46EX720.zip 1k .zip file
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