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post #2611 of 3084
All information that I'm aware of is in the linked thread. And as explained there the EDID override won't work if your TV doesn't allow the 120hz hack. Perhaps the best for you would be to post on their forum where there's more experience on the matter.
post #2612 of 3084
hey guys ... can anybody help me with enabled 3D on Playstation 3D TV on the new nvidia drivers 3.x.x ???
because the old inf NVIDIA-UN-3DTV only working on the old drivers 2.x.x .. thanks .. smile.gif

this is the old inf
NVIDIA-UN-3DTV.txt 3k .txt file
post #2613 of 3084
post #2614 of 3084
thanks for the answer ... but i already read those posts and test all inf that you give to him
there are not working .. only ASUS inf work but only with 3D Vision Discover (anaglyph red/blue) that is difference from PlayStation 3D TV
waiting your answer .. rolleyes.gif
post #2615 of 3084
My system is only showing up 2-channel stereo under audio properties.
Been twisting my head around this the last couple of days and stumbeled upon this thread. Have doen my best to generate a EDID overrride file with no success.
PLZ, can enybody help me with a file for the following setup:

HTPC (Win8x64, ASUS P8Q77-M w/Realtek audio device and a Radeon HD7790) --HDMI--> UE55ES7005XXE SAMSUNG 55"LED/FHD/800HzCMR/T2 --OPTICAL--> DENON AVR-1908
post #2616 of 3084
The attached override should work with your TV.

Samsung UE40ES7000+(2LPCM,AC3&DTS,6Spkrs).zip 1k .zip file

2 channels is correct (max bandwitdh for S/PDIF = 2LPCM)
post #2617 of 3084
You are my hero, sir. many thanks!
post #2618 of 3084
Hi,

Just getting to learn more about surround sound setup.

Before I head out to buy a new denon receiver to replace my aging 2801,
I just want to know if it's actually doable to get 5.1 dd or dts with this connection
nvidia gtx 680 (dvi to hdmi) --> samsung ln46a850 (optical out) --> denon AVR-2801

Im in the same boat as few posts i've read, the nvidia hd audiodriver only reported samsung's 2 channel capability (with or without setting tv speaker to denon) with no encoding


Will an edid override get the job done?

I've extracted samsung lcdtv's ini using moninfo
samsuing.zip 1k .zip file
post #2619 of 3084
Your capture has only 128 bytes, but use the attached mod:

Samsung LN46A650+2LPCM+AC3,DTS.zip 1k .zip file
post #2620 of 3084
Tulli .... any help ? frown.gif
post #2621 of 3084
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Originally Posted by genius100 View Post

Tulli .... any help ? frown.gif

As all EDID override attempts failed I think the graphic driver/software is just ignoring the EDID.
post #2622 of 3084
so is there a solution ?? confused.gif
post #2623 of 3084
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Originally Posted by genius100 View Post

so is there a solution ?? confused.gif

Perhaps a Gefen Detective that would need of course to be programmed withe the right EDID.
post #2624 of 3084
Hey everyone, would someone be so kind as to help me with my HDMI sound issue.

Basically I have my PC hooked up via HDMI to my Samsung TV (UE40F8000) which connects to my Panasonic Receiver (SC-BTT290) via HDMI (ARC), Windows Sound Control panel lists Max number of channels as 2 and no encoded formats supported.

I have attached the two .inf files from both my TV and receiver, would someone be able to combine the two so I can output 5.1 audio with all the supported audio formats?

SAM0A7D.zip 1k .zip file

MEI4017.zip 1k .zip file
post #2625 of 3084
Captures are only 128-bytes, but use the attached mod which will work with your TV.

Samsung UA40ES6200+2LPCM+AC3+DTS.zip 1k .zip file
post #2626 of 3084
Hi Tulli,

thanks for taking a look at my setup

I managed to get this to show up. But I forgot to mention I test with game Dead Space 3 for 5.1



Since games dont encode to dd or dts, so im out of luck i think no? The only way i can resolve this is to buy a more recent denon that can take hdmi 5.1 uncompressed directly from nvidia gtx 680

thanks again. I never know there is somuch about surround setting until I got my first htpc/workpc last week.
post #2627 of 3084
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Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

As all EDID override attempts failed I think the graphic driver/software is just ignoring the EDID.

I believe my setup is in the same boat.. the unsupported 3d display override no longer works with 3xx nvidia drivers or is simply ignored by the nvidia driver.

I have:

Denon 1912 -- Mits 3DA-1 converter -- samsung dlp 3d led (hlt_6187S)

I have the 670 gtx plugged into the denon 1912 receiver. I plugged the 3d vision into the pc.. i can get it to light up as 3d vision/play.. i can even get the test image to work in 3D (with my existing dlp-link glasses). Under resolutions, 3d, however, only 720p 60 and 1080 24 show up.

This is where I figured the inf override is needed, so that i get the 1080p 60hz option.
So I was hoping to find a supported inf override for one of the Mitsubishi dlps listed here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-displays.html though i'm unclear if that needs to be a merged denon 1912+ mits model? (so far i've had no luck finding the inf)

I did see that Nvidia actually has a support form for tvs that arent supported.. perhaps they send you an inf? But for those with receivers + tv this may complicate matters: http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774

Though I find it strange they have that support form, but the 3xx drivers no longer take notice of inf overrides?
post #2628 of 3084
You should definitely contact Nvidia. If they send you a .inf it will be easy to add a full audio block.
post #2629 of 3084
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

You should definitely contact Nvidia. If they send you a .inf it will be easy to add a full audio block.

I'll look into contacting them..

However, someone in a different forum says that the inf overrides should still work with hdmi checkerboard mode selected as the 3d type in nvidia..

So i decided to try this again (no luck tho).. but first i hooked up the tv directly to the PC, without the denon 1912 or 3da-1 in the mix:

Ok, so I connected the set directly to card. In dev manager I have the pnp monitor listed.. so for now I tried that unsupported.inf option.. installed the inf (windows 7)..

Then rebooted..

When I go to control panel I see 3DTV Play listed (the logo) under the stereoscopic settings..
When I do the pull down on 3d types its 3dplay and checkerboard hdmi..
I selected checkerboard hdmi.. ran the test image.. can see 3D, no issues..

Now.. when I goto resolutions it gets hokey.. listed under 3D are 1080 24hz and 720 60hz.. thats it.. there is not the expected 1080 60hz option.. if I then look above this area, I see the display that is reported by nvidia (and standard windows resolution tool) says Denon AVAMP.

If i look in device manager under monitors I see the "NVIDIA Unsupported 3DTV (override)" as expected there anyways.

So somehow, both windows resolutions and nvidia still think the display is the "Denon AVAMP", which may be contributing to failure here.
post #2630 of 3084
Try removing all registry leftovers (section 4 in my sig.). The Denon AVAMP detection by nvidia should go away.
post #2631 of 3084
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Try removing all registry leftovers (section 4 in my sig.). The Denon AVAMP detection by nvidia should go away.

By remove leftovers, you mean via the hidden dev manager trick?

Tried that but so far still shows Denon.

EDIT: after removing all monitors including the one that wasnt hidden, all is well (and rebooting).. but back to drawing board so far with inf overrides.. will keep testing and see if make progress..

My two options so far in nvidia control panel, since removing the 3da-1 are:
Generic 3D DLP HDTV and 3D Vision Discover

I'm guessing this is because the 3da-1 was allowing for 3d play due to the 1.4 hdmi (or the denon receiver).
Edited by markm75 - 4/12/13 at 5:18pm
post #2632 of 3084
Quote:
Originally Posted by markm75 View Post

By remove leftovers, you mean via the hidden dev manager trick?

Tried that but so far still shows Denon.

EDIT: after removing all monitors including the one that wasnt hidden, all is well (and rebooting).. but back to drawing board so far with inf overrides.. will keep testing and see if make progress..

My two options so far in nvidia control panel, since removing the 3da-1 are:
Generic 3D DLP HDTV and 3D Vision Discover

I'm guessing this is because the 3da-1 was allowing for 3d play due to the 1.4 hdmi (or the denon receiver).

I moved on to try inf overrides again.. here were the results in round1:

I tried the rollermod.inf trick.. dev manager shows Samsung Override when i do it..

I get the following (no override is visible in screen resolution and nvidia control panel), so so far a bust:






UPDATE: i take that back, it IS WORKING..

For some reason Batman Arkham City, despite saying 3d vision enabled (on), wasn't in 3d, but Tomb Raider 2013 is working and I dare say it looks even better than the Tridef Implimentation... wow.. thanks for the help that got me here, now I need to possibly get an EDID override for the rollermod.inf + denon 1912 (and hook back up to mits 3DA-1) if all that works together. I'm not sure what is up with the Batman AC game though.

Either way.. as seen in the images.. there does not appear a 3D section in nvidia control panel under resolutions.. not to worry as it DOES work in the game (with emitter connected via usb).

I'm getting the red letters for Vesa emitter is disconnected however.. i believe there is a workaround for that.
Edited by markm75 - 4/12/13 at 5:52pm
post #2633 of 3084
I was hoping to figure this out on my own, but I can't seem to get it to work from the OP. I have my HTPC (ASRock ION 330bt) connected to my LG 55LM7600 via HDMI, then my TV connected via HDMI to my Pioneer VSX-1120. Everything worked great going from HTPC -> AVR -> TV, but I would like to use my TV as the main HDMI switch because the AVR doesn't seem as nice with the Simplink functionality. I was able to pull the Pioneer AVR EDID from the registry, and the LG EDID from the active registry from MonInfo. I modified both the HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE fields in the OP .inf file ("0" for TV/"1" for AVR) and installed it as the monitor driver, but 2ch is still the only thing that shows up.

Attached is the inf file I am using. Do I need to modify the TV portion to include something extra? Do I need to delete all the old stuff out of my registry to get this to work? LG7600+VSX-1120.txt 3k .txt file
post #2634 of 3084
The LG EDID has a 6AC3 descriptor so no need to override. And as I'm tired of repeating, 2 channels detection in windows for HDMI means the max bandwidth for uncompressed audio over S/PDIF, which is 2LPCM. Just set your player to send the audio stream undecoded.
post #2635 of 3084
I've been reading through most of the thread and I cant figure out how to get the numbers for my receiver and TV. I am having the stuttering and no audio with DTSMA and DDHD enabled in Frodo.

I followed all of the instructions for removing realtec drivers on my PC and disabling them in the BIOs. It says my playback device is Denon-AVAMP and it supports all HD audio formats in supported formats. I also gave it exclusive control.

Video set to software no acceleration
Audio all WASAPI

My setup is an AMD A10 pc/ Denon AVR-790/ cheap Dynex 42" LCD 1080p

I now have smooth video, but no sound. In Netflix I get the blue HD audio light. But not Frodo.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I just dumped my Boxee for this setup



EDIT: I now have working sound but it's popping. ANy ideas?

EDIT 2: I enabled hardware acceleration and the Dvxa thing and now it works perfect.
Edited by TiSLine - 4/13/13 at 7:06am
post #2636 of 3084
Thanks for your reply. Perhaps I am being dense, but I don't see why S/PDIF would be a bottleneck for HDMI output and cause the HTPC to only output 2ch Stereo as I am not using S/PDIF. When I connect my TV directly to the HTPC, I don't have any supported encoded formats (makes sense, it is a 2ch stereo device afterall). What's weird is when I plug the AVR directly to the HTPC, I am only getting Dolby Digital as a supported format, although I know the AVR can handle DTS, DD+, LPCM, etc. All the correct supported formats show up in MonInfo as well, but they do not show up in the audio properties supported formats. Another interesting thing is that all my DTS and AC3 streams are being converted to PCM when I play them through VLC. I am at a loss of what to do... I know I was able to get 5.1 AC3 and DTS to my AVR when I had it connected HTPC -> AVR -> TV, but after I switched to HTPC -> TV -> AVR I can no longer get it to output any encoded format whichever way I have my setup connected.

Another note is that my PS3 -> TV -> AVR passes encoded formats just fine. I recently updated my NVIDIA drivers, and I am wondering if that might be my issue? Also, I don't really see in VLC how to force it to passthrough the audio and not convert it.

I appreciate any help with this because it is really boggling my mind. I hate when something works perfect one day, then is completely broken the next...

EDIT: According to some google searches, the HTPC is capable of outputting DTS, DD, and LPCM (ASROCK ION 330HT).

EDIT: I had the wrong output selected in VLC, I am now seeing a direct AC3/DTS stream to AVR. When I connect HTPC -> TV -> AVR, I no longer get the option to outpu to SPIDF (which is how I got it working when I had it HTPC -> AVR -> TV.
Edited by dasjude - 4/13/13 at 11:05am
post #2637 of 3084
By "S/PDIF" I meant the bandwidth you get when connected to the TV through HDMI.

Anyway, if AC3 is not listed as a supported format when connecting to the TV capture the EDID when connected to the AVR, and use it for overriding the EDID when connected to the TV.

EDIT: I had it in my DB:

LG7600.zip 1k .zip file
Edited by Tulli - 4/13/13 at 1:30pm
post #2638 of 3084
Thanks Tulli, I tried that driver, but it did not seem to work. I do have the EDID info from my stereo. Do I just use that for my monitor driver, or do I merge the two together? Attached is my stereo EDID info. Also, this is a monitor EDID issue and not a graphics card driver issue correct? This is the output I get from my sound properties. vsx-1120.zip 1k .zip file

Thanks again!
post #2639 of 3084
No need of a different override. It should have worked. Do a clean-up of registry leftovers (section 4 in my sig.) and double-check the installation procedure (did you reboot after install?).
post #2640 of 3084
I keep going round and round in circles. I uninstall monitor, delete drivers, reboot. Then once booted, install the .inf you sent and reboot. Then when it reboots I check sound settings and still no supported codecs. Any ideas?

EDIT: I installed the AVR driver as the display and now I get 7.1 and DD support, but I am still lacking DTS.
Edited by dasjude - 4/13/13 at 5:23pm
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