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post #2851 of 3084
Samsung un55es8000f+HD audio.zip 1k .zip file

Let me know if it works.
post #2852 of 3084
Thanks, Now I see All the formats, but when i play some DTS-hd or True HD, i get clicking and hissing sound, what is the problem?

Thanks again!
.
post #2853 of 3084
What is your player? Check setup/filters.
post #2854 of 3084
I have tried, xbmc, potplayer, vlc, mpc-HC,
They are all the something
post #2855 of 3084
No passthrough of HD audio over HDMI-in with these HTs then, as stated at the beginning ... only S/PDIF (mutichannel compressed DD or DTS and 2-LPCM).
post #2856 of 3084
Quote:
Originally Posted by THEDAMN316 View Post

I have tried, xbmc, potplayer, vlc, mpc-HC,
They are all the something

Here's how to configure MPC-BE (which is identical to MPC-HC):

Disable all internal filters:


Set LAV filters as PREFERED, HAALI filters as BLOCKED:


Check all formats that apply to your AVR:


Set video renderer to MadVR:


Check formats you want the splitter apply to:


You need to install the LAV Filters as well as the MadVR renderer.

All audio formats work as well as video plays with proper refresh rate (e.g. 24Hz mode for movies).
Edited by shpitz - 9/13/13 at 12:30pm
post #2857 of 3084
Hi Tulli

I suspect from what I've read (and the little I can actually understand) I have an AVR problem maybe needing an override ...

Config: Win 7 / XBMC ---> GeForce 8400GS video card (NVIDA) ---> HDMI ---> Pioneer VSX321 AVR ---> HDMI Panasonic TCP60U50 TV.

No Realtek drivers. 8 channels & "exclusive" set.

Can't see any evidence in Windows of an AVR. Shouldn't i see wither a "monitor" in device manager, or an option for the AVR in Windows Sound Settings? All I see is the Panasonic TV.

As a result, the only "supported Formats" I see are the 4 or so --- I think what the TV supports. I know the receiver supports many more. But, I can't find a way to get it listed as a device, and/or select it.

Don't know if "TV Passthrough" is selected in the AVR - the op. instructions are almost useless (and the AVR is new, so I'm not familiar with it).

Might this be an Override candidate?
post #2858 of 3084
Just in case, here is the Panasonic info:

Monitor
Model name............... PanasonicTV0
Manufacturer............. Panasonic
Plug and Play ID......... MEIA0D8
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2012, ISO week 0
Filter driver............ None
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. Undefined or variable
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.345
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.291 - Gy 0.635
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.163 - By 0.093
White point (default).... Wx 0.288 - Wy 0.296
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 15-68kHz
Vertical scan range...... 23-61Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 150MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported

EIA/CEA-861 Information
Revision number.......... 3
IT underscan............. Not supported
Basic audio.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
Native formats........... 1
Detailed timing #1....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #2....... 720x480p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync
Detailed timing #3....... 720x480p at 60Hz (4:3)
Modeline............... "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync
Detailed timing #4....... 1440x480i at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1440x480" 27.000 1440 1478 1602 1716 480 488 494 524 interlace -hsync -vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
720 x 480i at 60Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 32:27)
720 x 480i at 60Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 8:9)
640 x 480p at 60Hz - Default (4:3, 1:1)
NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio data (formats supported)
LPCM 2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
LPCM 8-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
AC-3 6-channel, 640k max. bit rate at 32/44/48 kHz
DTS 7-channel, 1536k max. bit rate at 44/48/88/96 kHz
DD+ 8-channel at 44/48 kHz
DTS-HD 8-channel, 16-bit at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
DVD-A 8-channel at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz

CE speaker allocation data
Channel configuration.... 7.1
Front left/right......... Yes
Front LFE................ Yes
Front center............. Yes
Rear left/right.......... Yes
Rear center.............. No
Front left/right center.. No
Rear left/right center... Yes
Rear LFE................. No

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
CEC physical address..... 2.3.0.0
Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
Supports 48bpp........... No
Supports 36bpp........... Yes
Supports 30bpp........... Yes
Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... Yes
Supports dual-link DVI... No
Maximum TMDS clock....... 225MHz
Audio/video latency (p).. n/a
Audio/video latency (i).. n/a
HDMI video capabilities.. No
Data payload............. 030C002300B82D0F

CE colorimetry data
xvYCC709 support......... Yes
xvYCC601 support......... Yes
sYCC601 support.......... Yes
AdobeYCC601 support...... Yes
AdobeRGB support......... Yes
Metadata profile flags... 0x01

Report information
Date generated........... 9/18/2013
Software revision........ 2.70.0.989
Data source.............. Real-time 0x0051
Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

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post #2859 of 3084
Only recent (specific) Fermi and Kepler based Nvidia cards bitstream HD audio. With a Geforce 8 series you can get at best (if any) S/PDIF bandwitdth (2LPCM and plain DD/DTS).
post #2860 of 3084
So - the reason for the short list of formats is my crappy video card, right?



Recommendation of an inexpensive (non 3D) video card? I only use the machine to play movies.

Will a new video card solve the problem of "not seeing" the AVR?
post #2861 of 3084
Get any cheap AMD 5xxx or above. As for NVidia a gt430 or gt640 will do.
post #2862 of 3084
Thx!

Found an open box ECS 430 for $35 & ordered it.
post #2863 of 3084
I need help to make a EDID for my Samsung F7100. I tried to do it myself without luck or perhaps didn't understand it fully from the beginning of this thread. I don't have a receiver in my setup but a 5.1 Surround Sound System directly connected via Optical out from my TV. I would like to get HDMI 5.1 sound output from my PC to my TV, then from my TV Optical Out to a 5.1 Surround Sound System if possible. Thank you!

Monitor
Model name............... SAMSUNG
Manufacturer............. Samsung
Plug and Play ID......... SAM0A7D
Serial number............ 1
Manufacture date......... 2012, ISO week 46
Filter driver............ None
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 1020 x 570 mm (46.0 in)
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.330
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.300 - Gy 0.600
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.150 - By 0.060
White point (default).... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 15-81kHz
Vertical scan range...... 24-75Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 230MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1366x768p at 60Hz
Modeline............... "1366x768" 85.500 1366 1436 1579 1792 768 771 774 798 +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 67Hz - Apple Mac II
640 x 480p at 72Hz - VESA
640 x 480p at 75Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 75Hz - VESA
832 x 624p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 75Hz - VESA
1152 x 870p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
1152 x 864p at 75Hz - VESA STD
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1280 x 800p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1440 x 900p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1600 x 900p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1680 x 1050p at 60Hz - VESA STD

EIA/CEA-861 Information
Revision number.......... 3
IT underscan............. Supported
Basic audio.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
Native formats........... 1
Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080i at 50Hz
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #2....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #3....... 1280x720p at 50Hz
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #4....... 1280x720p at 60Hz
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
1920 x 1080p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
720 x 576p at 50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
1920 x 1080p at 24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 25Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 30Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 480i at 60Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 32:27)
720 x 576i at 50Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 64:45)
NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio data (formats supported)
LPCM 2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48 kHz

CE speaker allocation data
Channel configuration.... 2.0
Front left/right......... Yes
Front LFE................ No
Front center............. No
Rear left/right.......... No
Rear center.............. No
Front left/right center.. No
Rear left/right center... No
Rear LFE................. No

CE video capability data
CE scan behavior......... Supports overscan and underscan
IT scan behavior......... Supports overscan and underscan
PT scan behavior......... Not supported
RGB quantization range... Not supported
YCC quantization range... Not supported

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
CEC physical address..... 4.0.0.0
Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
Supports 48bpp........... No
Supports 36bpp........... Yes
Supports 30bpp........... Yes
Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... Yes
Supports dual-link DVI... No
Maximum TMDS clock....... 225MHz
Audio/video latency (p).. n/a
Audio/video latency (i).. n/a
HDMI video capabilities.. Yes
EDID screen size......... Rounded to nearest cm
3D structures supported.. Top-and-bottom, Side-by-side w. horizontal sub-sampling
3D formats supported..... Mandatory formats plus some primary VICs
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
1920 x 1080p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 25Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 30Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001
Data payload............. 030C004000B82D21D0080140073F405090A0

Report information
Date generated........... 9/20/2013
Software revision........ 2.70.0.989
Data source.............. Real-time 0x0021
Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

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post #2864 of 3084
post #2865 of 3084
BINGO !

THANKS, TULLI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
post #2866 of 3084

I'm trying to get LPCM sound, but only Dolby Digital shows up...

 

 

 

SONY TV XV.zip 1k .zip file

post #2867 of 3084
That's odd. Maybe a driver corruption. You can use that same .inf to override the EDID, but if it's not fixed a clean driver reinstall would be needed.
post #2868 of 3084

I've never been able to access anything other than Dolby Digital even though LPCM is supported. It never shows up.

 

I've tried installing the inf and nothing changes.

 

Don't exactly know what I need to do to get LPCM to show up.

post #2869 of 3084
What is your setup (graphic & sound adapter, OS)?
post #2870 of 3084

HDMI out straight to TV from NVIDIA 770 GTX.

 

Not using my soundcard.

post #2871 of 3084
Weird indeed! Should be a driver problem. Standard solutions: later drivers from Nvidia (clean install) and even a fresh OS install.
post #2872 of 3084

All drivers have the exact same behavior going back several years with older cards as well.

 

Did a clean Windows 7 install and still the same. I think the EDID is not reported correctly. Can someone try and make a different driver?

post #2873 of 3084
FWIW the EDID that you posted was correct (2LPCM & 6AC3). That's why I thought it was a driver problem.

Have you tried changing the HDMI cable?
post #2874 of 3084

Yeah, I've tried different cables.

 

There is no driver for the TV, just Generic PnP Monitor.

 

I'm currently using a HDMI 1.4 cable from AmazonBasics. Was using DVI to HDMI Monster Cable before, but decided to go HDMI since this graphics card has an HDMI connection unlike the last one I had.

 

Is there no way to get the NVIDIA HDMI to see LPCM  as a supported format?

post #2875 of 3084
I'm curious if this EDID override thing might help me with my problem:

I have an Intel HD GPU hooked up to an Marantz AVR and in turn to a Samsung TV. While this setup works fine after a regular boot-up, I sometime only get a black screen or wrong screen resolution after waking the system from standby. My guess is some kind of handshake problem when the AVR has not yet been turned on before waking the HTPC.

Would it be possible to override the EDID information for the TV+AVR combination and solve the handshake problem in my case?
post #2876 of 3084
Quote:
Originally Posted by angelgraves13 View Post

Yeah, I've tried different cables.

There is no driver for the TV, just Generic PnP Monitor.

I'm currently using a HDMI 1.4 cable from AmazonBasics. Was using DVI to HDMI Monster Cable before, but decided to go HDMI since this graphics card has an HDMI connection unlike the last one I had.

Is there no way to get the NVIDIA HDMI to see LPCM  as a supported format?

I meant graphic driver. What is baffling is that the reported EDID audio block as per your capture is fine. OTOH the EDID override should have worked. Please double-check the installation with the instructions in my sig.
post #2877 of 3084
Quote:
Originally Posted by TOMillr View Post

I'm curious if this EDID override thing might help me with my problem:

I have an Intel HD GPU hooked up to an Marantz AVR and in turn to a Samsung TV. While this setup works fine after a regular boot-up, I sometime only get a black screen or wrong screen resolution after waking the system from standby. My guess is some kind of handshake problem when the AVR has not yet been turned on before waking the HTPC.

Would it be possible to override the EDID information for the TV+AVR combination and solve the handshake problem in my case?

No. Also note that Intel IGPs do not accept EDID overrides.
post #2878 of 3084

It's always been the same with NVIDIA drivers. It has NEVER read them right, not even on my old graphics card.

 

Everything else works great.

post #2879 of 3084
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

No. Also note that Intel IGPs do not accept EDID overrides.
I've found this threat over at the Intel site:

https://communities.intel.com/message/204712#204712

There's an Intel rep who claims that "In fact the video driver does support and respects EDID overrides." Maybe they changed something in one of the newer drivers?!
post #2880 of 3084
Quote:
Originally Posted by TOMillr View Post

I've found this threat over at the Intel site:

https://communities.intel.com/message/204712#204712

There's an Intel rep who claims that "In fact the video driver does support and respects EDID overrides." Maybe they changed something in one of the newer drivers?!

I've tested it myself with no success (on HD3000 and HD4000).
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