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post #241 of 5082
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Originally Posted by JimmyR View Post

Hey, your were told not to say anything.

Good news for a few of us and more just around the corner.


The lady who called me didn't mention anything about 'not saying anything'. She just wanted to verify my shipping info. I had told Jason that mine would have to go to a friends house if it was going to ship after the 12th.

If I spilled the beans early, I apologize.

I got no info on how many were coming, just that they had received notice that they would get RS20s on Friday.
post #242 of 5082
Teasing you Paul.
post #243 of 5082
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Originally Posted by JimmyR View Post

Teasing you Paul.

No problem, I'm just overly sensitive and grumpy because I won't get to play with mine before Christmas!

I told my friend that the box had better still be *sealed* when I get back!
post #244 of 5082
No call for me today.
post #245 of 5082
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Originally Posted by pmeyer View Post

The lady who called me didn't mention anything about 'not saying anything'.
If I spilled the beans early, I apologize.
I got no info on how many were coming, just that they had received notice that they would get RS20s on Friday.

Hey, remember how AVS told the intelligent people that we were the ONLY ones getting the extra-early shipment, and THEN the OTHER less important and less-intelligent people would be getting...uh...um...never mind.
post #246 of 5082
Grumpiness could be a serious medical symptom Paul and I don't think you look very good either.

Take care of yourself, you probably should play safe and stay home.. I can give you a note .
post #247 of 5082
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Originally Posted by JimmyR View Post

Grumpiness could be a serious medical symptom Paul and I don't think you look very good either.

Take care of yourself, you probably should play safe and stay home.. I can give you a note .


*Sniff* *Sniiff* Yup, I can feel the 10 day flu coming on. Maybe it's bubonic plague. Probably not safe to fly. For the public good. Do we have any medical doctors out there that can make it official?
post #248 of 5082
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Originally Posted by Lawguy View Post

No call for me today.

I think the only reason I got the call is because I had sent Jason a note with the window I wouldn't be home. I told him to let me know if shipping would hit in that window so I could give him an alternate address.

Now that I think of it, Laurie never actually said mine would be in the first batch, just that mine wouldn't make it by the 19th since the first batch they were getting was coming on Friday the 12th. Add QC and 5 days ground shipping and we are almost at Christmas.
post #249 of 5082
You know, Jason really has his work cut out for him. He's got the RS20s coming in on Friday and the Epsons coming in on Monday.

How is he ever going to get his holiday shopping done?
post #250 of 5082
You can bet Jason's working all weekend with the RS20's. I almost said screw the Epsons but I won't.
post #251 of 5082
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Originally Posted by takisot View Post

We did not test how the CMS operates, but we watched a lot of material with THX preset mode which seemed pretty accurate except for a green push. Cinema 1 & 2 were oversaturated for my taste, especially when directly compared to the calibrated HD-1 via Lumagen.
-The image sharpness of our unit was good but not as good as our HD-1 due to worse panel alignment (our HD-1 has really good convergence). I am talking about minor differences though and they are clearly related to our unit's convergence.

Two concerns for me. Convergence and accuracy of THX mode (I almost said screw the THX mode but I won't)

Everything else sounds great
post #252 of 5082
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Originally Posted by JimmyR View Post

You can bet Jason's working all weekend with the RS20's. I almost said screw the Epsons but I won't.

Yes, if they do arrive on Friday, Jason is going to have a busy weekend. But it's service like this that makes us all loyal AVS customers. (As well as very competitive prices!)
post #253 of 5082
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Originally Posted by pmeyer View Post

I think the only reason I got the call is because I had sent Jason a note with the window I wouldn't be home. I told him to let me know if shipping would hit in that window so I could give him an alternate address.

Now that I think of it, Laurie never actually said mine would be in the first batch, just that mine wouldn't make it by the 19th since the first batch they were getting was coming on Friday the 12th. Add QC and 5 days ground shipping and we are almost at Christmas.

Are you getting your RS20 QCed or just thinking the QCing of other orders will delay the ones that are not getting QCed?

It's only two days shipping from Rochester to my home.

By the way, I checked the UPS site for transit time from Rochester to Austin, too, and it was four days.
post #254 of 5082
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Originally Posted by hrd View Post

Are you getting your RS20 QCed or just thinking the QCing of other orders will delay the ones that are not getting QCed?

It's only two days shipping from Rochester to my home.

By the way, I checked the UPS site for transit time from Rochester to Austin, too, and it was four days.

I'm getting QC'd. If they get in on Friday, Jason works all weekend, and mine ships out on Monday, 4 days puts it at Thursday. My UPS truck rolls around at ~5:30pm. I'll be leaving on a 6:45am plane Friday morning.

Murphy's law says that mine would get shipped out Tuesday, or take 5 days. Then, assuming it needs a signature, it would end up back at AVScience after a few failed attempts and me stuck with double shipping.

Now that I think of it, I'm only diverting it to a friends house two miles away. If it happens to come Wednesday or Thursday, I'll just drive up and get it. No risk, and lots of peace of mind.
post #255 of 5082
Yes, I'm having Jason's QC and calibration service. Though I'm sure the THX setting will be very good, it's worth it for me to have Jason's calibration set up in User 1. Then I can tweak from there (putting my results into User 2), exploring various gamma's etc. I have recently gotten a I1lt colorimeter and want to begin to learn how to do CMS, grayscale, etc., but it will be good to have something to start with.
post #256 of 5082
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Originally Posted by pmeyer View Post

I'm getting QC'd. If they get in on Friday, Jason works all weekend, and mine ships out on Monday, 4 days puts it at Thursday. My UPS truck rolls around at ~5:30pm. I'll be leaving on a 6:45am plane Friday morning.

Murphy's law says that mine would get shipped out Tuesday, or take 5 days. Then, assuming it needs a signature, it would end up back at AVScience after a few failed attempts and me stuck with double shipping.

Now that I think of it, I'm only diverting it to a friends house two miles away. If it happens to come Wednesday or Thursday, I'll just drive up and get it. No risk, and lots of peace of mind.

I always thought four days meant anything shipped out on a Monday would arrive on a Friday. Maybe UPS will move faster because of the holidays. They tend to hire more workers for the holiday season.
post #257 of 5082
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

Yes, I'm having Jason's QC and calibration service. Though I'm sure the THX setting will be very good, it's worth it for me to have Jason's calibration set up in User 1. Then I can tweak from there (putting my results into User 2), exploring various gamma's etc. I have recently gotten a I1lt colorimeter and want to begin to learn how to do CMS, grayscale, etc., but it will be good to have something to start with.

There are some top-notch calibrators in my area, like Gregg Loewen and Jim Doolittle, so I have that option. Ideally, someone will reverse engineer the THX mode so that we can have the benefits of it along with 2.4-2.5 gamma.
post #258 of 5082
My RS1 worked perfectly with PS3 in 1080i via hdmi. Now my RS20 is not accepting the EXACT same signal. It has HDCP issues I guess. Info says 2880 X 540
I am so DISGUSTED by these HDMI issues that are destroying the industry. I have tried everything, but the RS20 will NOT accept a signal that earlier projectors did. Looks like JVC rushed this area.
post #259 of 5082
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Originally Posted by hrd View Post

There are some top-notch calibrators in my area, like Gregg Loewen and Jim Doolittle, so I have that option. Ideally, someone will reverse engineer the THX mode so that we can have the benefits of it along with 2.4-2.5 gamma.

Yes, I agree that Jason's calibration service is not as good as having in done in your own home, but it is probably 95+% as good, and half the cost of having a 'top notch' calibrator come to your home. I just grateful that he was willing to do it. As noted, I really want to get into this myself, and this is just a jump-start for me.
post #260 of 5082
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Originally Posted by adidadi View Post

My RS1 worked perfectly with PS3 in 1080i via hdmi. Now my RS20 is not accepting the EXACT same signal. It has HDCP issues I guess. Info says 2880 X 540
I am so DISGUSTED by these HDMI issues that are destroying the industry. I have tried everything, but the RS20 will NOT accept a signal that earlier projectors did. Looks like JVC rushed this area.

Wow, that's quite concerning. Have you tried forcing the PS3 to output 1080p (you mentioned 1080i but not sure why you are not using 1080p)?

Also, what happens if you run through the PS3 video setup wizard thing, where you tell it "go connect to my display and choose the highest possible config" and then it makes the connection. Have you tried that? If so what resolution does it connect at?
post #261 of 5082
You know, I was watching my RS1 tonight and thought to myself, man this is still such a beautiful image. After almost 2 years and close to 1000 hours on the bulb and only running at 8.5fL it still knocks my socks off. At any rate, there's always room for improvement and looking forward to seeing what the RS20 will do to surpass it.
post #262 of 5082
I have NO problem sending PS3 directly to RS 20 in 1080p 24 fps. But, I can no longer send it to my Levinson 40 via hdmi even at 1080i 60fps. It used to work fine on RS1, but RS20 will not accept signal. I am so frustrated. Bought a splitter and that does not pass anything to PJ. This RS20 is a picky Bull. Will not take PS3 unless direct. No processor, no switcher, nothing!!!
post #263 of 5082
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Originally Posted by John Ballentine View Post

Two concerns for me. Convergence and accuracy of THX mode (I almost said screw the THX mode but I won't)

Everything else sounds great

Both of those concerns could be related to this specific unit we saw.
And, as others mentioned, THX mode could be close to accurate but it wont give you the results of a calibration performed by a professional in your own home theater space..
post #264 of 5082
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Originally Posted by lovingdvd View Post

Cine4home got results on a HD750 pre-production unit using the CMS that are pretty darn close. From http://www.cine4home.de/news/JVCHD75...ew.htm#Update:

The secondaries seem off a tad. I'm not sure it that's because he ran out of time and decided to go with that in lieu of lots more experimenting (he did mention working with the CMS was a bit challenging), or if its because that was the best he could get it without causing something else to shift. Either way this is pretty darn close and not likely noticeable.

Of course the one thing we cannot gauge from the CIE chart is Y, and whether he could dial Y in spot on as well to have a very good dE for all the colors. I presume so since he did not say otherwise, and actually said he had to do a good deal of work with regards to getting all this in balance.

I have a few general questions about the nature of CMS, and apologies in advance if they aren't phrased in a technically correct way. (Fyi, I'm having Jason perform an initial calibration and after a few hundred hours on the bulb I'll have an ISF pro do an in-home calibration if needed. But, I'm curious about this.)

The JVC website (RS20, tech specs) says this about the CMS: "The DLA-RS20 features color management that interpolates colors individually by R, G, B, C, Y, or M, in three separate axes of color phase, chroma saturation and brightness. Up to three customized color settings can be stored for future use."

1. Does this statement imply that adjustments made to each of these colors (or at least to the primaries) will not affect the settings for the other colors, and thus that at least in theory each color can be dialed in perfectly independent of the others?

2. If "yes," does the "challenging" nature of the CMS that Cine4Home mentioned suggest that the adjustments are not truly independent of one another?

3. Do other pjs have CMS that allow such truly independent adjustments, or is that impossible for any CMS: that adjustments to one color inevitably affect the others and thus you have to "tweak back and forth" to achieve a final "proper balance"? Do high end video processors (e.g., Lumagen models) allow it? (No; I'm not planning to get one; not with the RS20).

Thanks.
Mike W.
post #265 of 5082
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Originally Posted by hrd View Post

I always thought four days meant anything shipped out on a Monday would arrive on a Friday. Maybe UPS will move faster because of the holidays. They tend to hire more workers for the holiday season.

Last week, two large packages from Secaucus, New Jersey made it to the UPS facility in Lenexa, KS in 20 hours. From that arrival they took 18 hours to arrive on my door step in Wichita. How's that for standard ground shipping?
post #266 of 5082
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Originally Posted by tstybr View Post

Last week, two large packages from Secaucus, New Jersey made it to the UPS facility in Lenexa, KS in 20 hours. From that arrival they took 18 hours to arrive on my door step in Wichita. How's that for standard ground shipping?

That is why I drive down and pick up my stuff when it hits local.
post #267 of 5082
Anyone planning to put the RS 20 in a Hush box?
JVC recommends 10 inches on each side of the projector. That would make the box about the size of a SmartCar! Any ideas?
post #268 of 5082
Yeah I looked at those recommendations and gulped too. I hope I don't have to use my
hushbox (the projector will be above our heads) but the hushbox does have a fan for ventilation.
post #269 of 5082
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Originally Posted by Swampfox View Post

Anyone planning to put the RS 20 in a Hush box?
JVC recommends 10 inches on each side of the projector. That would make the box about the size of a SmartCar! Any ideas?

Why on Earth you want to put the JVC in a hush box?!
Unless your ear is right next to the projector, I can't find a reason for doing that... The RS-20 is REALLY quiet..
post #270 of 5082
I got an e-mail from AVS and then spoke with someone. Apparently the first shipment from JVC is a small batch.

I would not worry too much if you are not in the first batch because I suspect that JVC is just rolling them out to dealers as they get QCd by JVC.

Honestly, I don't expect Jason to work the weekend to get these out. He has a family and small kids. If all goes well, I'll have mine by next weekend.
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