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post #4861 of 5082
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Originally Posted by Jason Turk View Post

Agreed.

Wish you guys would of offered calibration on these units..
post #4862 of 5082
Normally we do, but it was sort of tricky due to the sheer quantity we had coming in. I do them all myself and as experienced as I am, it still takes time to do each one. Basically had I done it we'd of had to ship them 3 weeks after they arrived.
post #4863 of 5082
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Originally Posted by Jason Turk View Post

Normally we do, but it was sort of tricky due to the sheer quantity we had coming in. I do them all myself and as experienced as I am, it still takes time to do each one. Basically had I done it we'd of had to ship them 3 weeks after they arrived.

How much do you guys usually charge for calibration?
post #4864 of 5082
It is a 2 part thing. QC is included (in your case we normally would have caught the horizontal problem before sending it). Pending it passes QC, we do a full ISF. It is $299 normally unless we are running a special.
post #4865 of 5082
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Originally Posted by Jason Turk View Post

It is a 2 part thing. QC is included (in your case we normally would have caught the horizontal problem before sending it). Pending it passes QC, we do a full ISF. It is $299 normally unless we are running a special.

Do you guys ever let people send there PJ's to you guys for calibration? I might do this with UMR (Jeff Meier)
post #4866 of 5082
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Originally Posted by Chrisx510 View Post

Do you guys ever let people send there PJ's to you guys for calibration? I might do this with UMR (Jeff Meier)

Doesn't a projector need to be calibrated firing onto the screen that will be used?
post #4867 of 5082
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Originally Posted by Chrisx510 View Post

Do you guys ever let people send there PJ's to you guys for calibration? I might do this with UMR (Jeff Meier)

Give me a call.
post #4868 of 5082
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Doesn't a projector need to be calibrated firing onto the screen that will be used?

According to Jeff Meier a projector can still be calibrated without being in the room it will be used. He did mention that calibrating it in the HT room it will be used in does have its advantages though.

Reason I would consider having Jeff or Jason calibrate my projector is one the price is just way better! Out here in the Bay Area the calibrators I talk to want $500-600. Also I would want someone who has a lot of experience calibrating JVC projectors and though some of the dealers I have spoke with out here in my area sell JVC they aren't big fans of them and usually steer there customers to something else.. Mostly SIM2,Projection Design,Runco.. I had a dealer recently tell me he only keeps the one JVC model for demo to show how crappy it is compared to the SIM2's..

Personally I would feel more comfortable having Jason or Jeff calibrate my projector even if it was done in my HT Room. They both have a lot of experience with JVC's and I think they could get the most out of my projectors PQ..
post #4869 of 5082
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Originally Posted by Chrisx510 View Post

some of the dealers I have spoke with out here in my area sell JVC they aren't big fans of them and usually steer there customers to something else.. Mostly SIM2,Projection Design,Runco.. I had a dealer recently tell me he only keeps the one JVC model for demo to show how crappy it is compared to the SIM2's..

Bet it's more to do with margins than quality. Plus I wouldn't trust anyone like that to not purposely detune the the one they didn't want to sell. Bastards.
post #4870 of 5082
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Bet it's more to do with margins than quality. Plus I wouldn't trust anyone like that to not purposely detune the the one they didn't want to sell. Bastards.

I'm sure it has a lot to do with Margin. This is the Silicon Valley so most people who have the room for a Home Theater out here and can afford to have it installed by one of the high end companies out here probably has $100k+ to spend.

They just don't seem to care for LCOS technology as they put it. I haven't seen a C3X Lumis in action yet and I don't know if I should. I don't want to get back home and start picking out flaws my RS20 has compared to a C3X
post #4871 of 5082
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Originally Posted by Chrisx510 View Post

I'm sure it has a lot to do with Margin. This is the Silicon Valley so most people who have the room for a Home Theater out here and can afford to have it installed by one of the high end companies out here probably has $100k+ to spend.

They just don't seem to care for LCOS technology as they put it. I haven't seen a C3X Lumis in action yet and I don't know if I should. I don't want to get back home and start picking out flaws my RS20 has compared to a C3X

A C3X won't have the cr of a JVC, anyway. But apparently it's got enough other stuff to make up for it!
post #4872 of 5082
Jeff (UMR) will be in the Bay Area doing calibrations in early June, and his prices are better than what you are hearing about, Chris. Check his web site. He is not only a respected calibrator, but also a former RS20 owner.
post #4873 of 5082
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Originally Posted by nathan_h View Post

Jeff (UMR) will be in the Bay Area doing calibrations in early June, and his prices are better than what you are hearing about, Chris. Check his web site. He is not only a respected calibrator, but also a former RS20 owner.

Yea I originally wanted Jeff to come this June but the dates he will be here I will be in Southern California working.
post #4874 of 5082
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Originally Posted by Chrisx510 View Post

Yea I originally wanted Jeff to come this June but the dates he will be here I will be in Southern California working.

Wife? Girlfriend? Neighbor? Friend? I guess it would be good to be there, but not absolutely necessary. Jason calibrated my RS20 to great effect without me hovering over him.
post #4875 of 5082
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Originally Posted by erkq View Post

Wife? Girlfriend? Neighbor? Friend? I guess it would be good to be there, but not absolutely necessary. Jason calibrated my RS20 to great effect without me hovering over him.

Definitely not leaving any of the girlfriends here unattended...
post #4876 of 5082
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Originally Posted by Chrisx510 View Post

Definitely not leaving any of the girlfriends here unattended...

Man... I'd never date anyone I didn't trust unattended. You live dangerously!
post #4877 of 5082
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Originally Posted by erkq View Post

Man... I'd never date anyone I didn't trust unattended. You live dangerously!

haha that I do!
post #4878 of 5082
Margins eventually become part of it, but there is a lot of expense up from in gear that a calibrator has to purchase, so for a while at least it is paying for that.
post #4879 of 5082
My bulb turned off on me last night. I know Chrisx510 had this problem in a different post as well. This happened to me before with about five hours on the bulb and the machine. I unplugged the unit after it cooled, and then also put the machine in to high altitude mode. Didn't have any problems after that evening till yesterday. Well last night at 38 bulb hours and the beginning of my movie, I put the fan back on normal and by two hours and twenty minutes at the end of the flick the bulb went out again, with the warning light flashing. I let the bulb cool, fired it up again to make sure it was okay and watched the last five minutes of the movie. At the end of the night I unplugged the machine. Today I was on call and decided to watch another movie with the machine in high alt mode with no problems what so ever. One other item I should note is that just prior to watching my movie last night I finally was able to finish ceiling mounting my projector and move it off the coffee table. Any thoughts on possible triggers, similar experiences, or how often I should let this happen before I should bug Jason again or JVC warranty services?
post #4880 of 5082
After 2 weeks I got my RS20 back from the repair center in Cypress, CA. Under service performed it says: Optical Block, P.W. Board Assy. Under the Part # it says: Processor PWB and Power PWB. I'm not sure what exactly the parts are but it works great.

Everything was reset to factory defaults though. Even the bulb life was set back to zero. I had a little over 200 hrs. on it. I had the proj. calibrated by UMW (Jeff Meier) is this gone too or does this stay in the service settings?

Ken
post #4881 of 5082
Rather than you wrote the settings on a piece of paper and insert them back, I think they're gone if the Service made a Full Reset ... sorry
post #4882 of 5082
I have the list that Jeff provided with all the settings but I don't have a clue as to getting into the service menu and putting them all back. I did put the settings back in the regular setup menu though.
post #4883 of 5082
What kind of service menu settings were adjusted? Did you have the upgraded CMS firmware already?
post #4884 of 5082
I don't know, since I don't know how to open the service menu. Jeff made a detailed list of all his calibration settings. I tried to do the upgrade awhile ago butI don't think it took since the number of CMS settings never changed.
post #4885 of 5082
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Originally Posted by Kensmith48 View Post

I don't know, since I don't know how to open the service menu. Jeff made a detailed list of all his calibration settings. I tried to do the upgrade awhile ago butI don't think it took since the number of CMS settings never changed.

My RS20 was calibrated by Jeff (UMR), and I don't think he was ever in a Service Menu; i.e., everything was done by the controls you can set yourself.
post #4886 of 5082
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

My RS20 was calibrated by Jeff (UMR), and I don't think he was ever in a Service Menu; i.e., everything was done by the controls you can set yourself.

That's the best news I've heard all week.
post #4887 of 5082
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

My RS20 was calibrated by Jeff (UMR), and I don't think he was ever in a Service Menu; i.e., everything was done by the controls you can set yourself.

Yes there are more controls in the user menu than service menu, so most calibrators (Jeff included I believe) use the user menus. If he documented them and you have them you should be able to plug them back in.
post #4888 of 5082
My RS20 was calibrated by umr and it looked great for quite a while after I got it home.

Unfortunately for whatever reason the picture has drifted quite a bit and now the amount of red/purple in the image, particularly faces, borders on the hideous. It's starting to drive me insane. This is at only around 300 hours on my bulb. Looks like I'll have to figure out how to touch it up myself. Or hire a local calibrator I suppose.

(I live in Toronto so I don't have easy access to the excellent calibrators often mentioned on this forum).
post #4889 of 5082
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

My RS20 was calibrated by umr and it looked great for quite a while after I got it home.

Unfortunately for whatever reason the picture has drifted quite a bit and now the amount of red/purple in the image, particularly faces, borders on the hideous. It's starting to drive me insane. This is at only around 300 hours on my bulb. Looks like I'll have to figure out how to touch it up myself. Or hire a local calibrator I suppose.

(I live in Toronto so I don't have easy access to the excellent calibrators often mentioned on this forum).

I'm very glad I had UMR do a calibration for me, but my experience has been similar to yours. Now that I've gotten ChromaPure (which is easy enough even for me to use), and an I1Pro (and LT), I can do it myself (and it's a lot more fun, too).
post #4890 of 5082
See this is why I didn't bother with the expense of getting a pro in to do my HD350. I've seen it drift so much since I calibrated it at 30, 180, 280, 350 hours and when I got my Video EQ Pro I did it again at 400 hours. Then I got a lamp flicker at 410 hours (just after the last 'perfect' calibration using the external CMS ) so I had to recalibrate for using the High lamp mode. Now the flicker seems to have settled again at 450 hours I'll try another normal lamp calibration...

Maybe my cals aren't measurably as good as a pro but with the VEQ I'm getting delta Es of less than 2 for greyscale and colour (apart from blue at 3) so it's 'spot on' by my test gear, so my error is basically the sensor, but after 100 hours of drift what does that matter? Maybe when LED light sources become commonplace I'll consider at pro calibration as it will last much longer, but that's some time off for me I think.
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