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post #31 of 133
1366 cooler right here.

http://www.crazypc.com/products/PX50983.html
post #32 of 133
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Can you post a link to that thread? I tried to find it but can't seem to locate it. I did not even know eVGA made MB's!!

here u go

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=642527
post #33 of 133
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1366 cooler right here.

http://www.crazypc.com/products/PX50983.html

Just a heads up, this is not the retail TRUE RT1366, but a bundle of parts. Like I pointed out that "in my case" the Rt1366 TRUE seem to have flatter based then my older TRUE's. Maybe it doen't make any diff's but just to to say that its not the retail TRUE RT1366 package. Since its a bundle then you will get the AMD and 775 mounting HW also.

Unfortunely for Canadians...not competative price (after about 26% to 30% xchange + SH and maybe customs) since I got my TRUE RT1366 retail for $75cdn. But I guess if you really need/want it now then price is not an issue...
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post #35 of 133
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You mean this one?

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/75...ml?id=62oFMMBL

No thats still just a bundle with the BLACK version of the TRUE. I also have a BLACk TRUE is my old e8400 gaming rig. The retail version comes in a black box with a plastic slip cover. It only has the 1366 bracket no other HW for AMD or 775. Here are the three diff versions, just the box's. L-R Standard (old) TRUE, new retail RT1366 TRUE and old Black TRUE.




NOTE: with the Black vers in the link you still have to get the optional 1366 barcket...looks like it doesn't come with it.
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post #37 of 133
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How 'bout this one?

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/84...er.html?tl=g40

Not 100% sure since its just a pic of the HS with the new fan barcket on. But by looking at the mounting HW it looks like it only has the 1366 bracket so it could be the retail version. Pretty hard to tell from pics, the box would def show which ver it would be. Also it looks like is only on pre-order also. ie no stock.

ADD: The 1st bundle package...you can have them lap the base if that is the concern.
post #38 of 133
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BTW there is also a limited edition all copper TRUE (run of 500?). Real expensive and really too heavy for use in most tower type cases. It comes in a white box. I almost bought one as a collector piece since I have a few of their older all copper HS in my use/old collection of Thermalright HS. But just a waste of more money...

ADD: also it suppose to to have a flat base. Maybe all the "newer" TRUE's regardless of which model has the flatter base now, but you can never tell if you are getting an actual "new" or just "new old" stock of the TRUE when you order tho.
post #39 of 133
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Wow...over at the eVGA forum, the eVGA tech Jacob show how to OC an i7/920 and eVGA x58 SLI mobo to 4.5 on air. Looks real simple. Thats the grail now...well maybe...

Wow, that's impressive. Got me curious enough to put the parts I needed to duplicate that in my Newegg cart, ~$800, not bad. A little too rich for me at the moment but keeping those parts in the cart to see what happens to that price.
post #40 of 133
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Well tried many settings and anything above ~4.0 with the i7/920 was no stable enuf with min voltage adjustments or the temps got a little too high for my comfort level with some voltage adjustments to make it stable. Maybe later on as more OC'ing settings and reviews will give more info as what are acceptable temps, but until then I will hold off on any more OC'ing for now. So I guess I will settle on 4.0 which is still a wicked OC from 2.66.

BTW: being inside of the HAF case dropped the core temps about 2c from the open test bench. Better air flow inside case then open air when it comes to the core temps. CPU idle at 22-23c which is ~room temp, cores idle about 37-40c. Max'd CPU temp is 40-45c and cores are 50-62c.
post #41 of 133
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Here is 3DM06, only for reference




more stable with the newest BIOS (12/12/08)
I think I will stop here. TRI SLI GTX280's still not working .
post #42 of 133
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Just an update for those interested

After "many many MANY" hours playing with the eVGA x58 3 way SLI mobo, I finally decided I had enuf. The mobo never 100% crashes but there are some very inconsistent readings. The VReg temps are all over the map regardless what I've tried. Many various vid card setups and various Ocing and some weird fan setups along with many PSU's has not yield any consistent or repeatable readings. Varies some day at 54c and others at 68c plus (hot ).

Will replace it with an ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution and see. The eVGA 780i mobo's for me were rock solid tho . Was thinking about the ASUS P6T7 Supercomputer but just didn't see the need for two NF200 for four x16 PCIe slots since SLI only supports TRI SLI or QUAD SLI. Also the P6T6 Revo is a lot cheaper then the P6T7 Super. I guess I just have to make do with only three x16 slots then four x16 slots...
post #43 of 133
pussy.




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pussy.





who ya callin a pussy...ya whimp....

been at this mobo since Dec 08. At time it works like a champ, and other times the thing seems to have mind of its own. Not only the VReg temps being wacked. It use to boot up fast when I had SLI 280's along with a 8600GTS as the physX. Now it take a long time to boot into windows. Tried just one 295 with a 8600GTS as the physX and same thing. Swapped out the 8600GTS with an 8800GTX, then a 9400GT and then a 280, same thing. Regardless what slot I put a PhysX card in , slow boot into windows. Even rebuilt windows boot drive with a total new install from scratch. But SLI alone works great and fast boot. It could be a windows issue but I don't rem in the past that it took so long to get into windows when I 1st got the mobo. It could be the new NVidia drivers also. Just that I swapped out the vid cards so many times now, not sure if something (me ) screwed up the PCIe x16 slots along the way. Boy, 1st mobo that I have a love hated relationship with. Norm I either love it or hate it. also I use to be able to OC the i7-920 to 4ghz, now only stable at 3.9. When I 1st got the mobo back in Dec, I almost RMA'd it since there was something admiss (don't rem what now). But it cleared itself the next day I didn't have to do the RMA.
post #45 of 133
Windows being beta 7?

If so stop right there.
post #46 of 133
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Windows being beta 7?

If so stop right there.

XP pro, I have Win7 RC1 64 installed but not for my main gaming system
post #47 of 133
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been at this mobo since Dec 08. At time it works like a champ, and other times the thing seems to have mind of its own. Not only the VReg temps being wacked. It use to boot up fast when I had SLI 280's along with a 8600GTS as the physX. Now it take a long time to boot into windows. Tried just one 295 with a 8600GTS as the physX and same thing. Swapped out the 8600GTS with an 8800GTX, then a 9400GT and then a 280, same thing. Regardless what slot I put a PhysX card in , slow boot into windows. Even rebuilt windows boot drive with a total new install from scratch. But SLI alone works great and fast boot. It could be a windows issue but I don't rem in the past that it took so long to get into windows when I 1st got the mobo. It could be the new NVidia drivers also. Just that I swapped out the vid cards so many times now, not sure if something (me ) screwed up the PCIe x16 slots along the way. Boy, 1st mobo that I have a love hated relationship with. Norm I either love it or hate it. also I use to be able to OC the i7-920 to 4ghz, now only stable at 3.9. When I 1st got the mobo back in Dec, I almost RMA'd it since there was something admiss (don't rem what now). But it cleared itself the next day I didn't have to do the RMA.

Living on the bleeding edge of technology isn't always so great. I'm not leaving my Core 2 Quad and motherboard until at least when the "Gulftown" chips are available.

By the way, I can't believe that you have avoided Windows Vista for so long.
post #48 of 133
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Living on the bleeding edge of technology isn't always so great. I'm not leaving my Core 2 Quad and motherboard until at least when the "Gulftown" chips are available.

By the way, I can't believe that you have avoided Windows Vista for so long.

No VISTA for me...waiting on retail Win7.
post #49 of 133
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And nobody cares if it encodes a DVD in 14 seconds either....


I care. I take a lot of road trips and like to load my Ipod up with movies before I go. I dont have, nor do I want, to have the storage to keep all these encoded MPEG-4 movies around when I have a perfectly good disc on my shelf that can rip & encode in the time it takes to switch discs....
post #50 of 133
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Well just got my ASUS P6T6 WS Revo mobo. Will replace my eVGA mobo maybe this week end. Its smaller then I thght for a full feature ATX mobo. No IDE or firewire. IDE would have been nice since I still have many IDE OPtical drives. just have to put a LG SATA HD DVD/BD drive in I quess.
post #51 of 133
Nice. I look forward to reading your impressions.

Be sure to take it easy on those PCI-Express slots.
post #52 of 133
I've got one of those LG HDDVD/BD drives off 'egg for $90 bones.....lightscribe, etc, etc...very nice replacement. IDE is soooo last century...
post #53 of 133
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I've got one of those LG HDDVD/BD drives off 'egg for $90 bones.....lightscribe, etc, etc...very nice replacement. IDE is soooo last century...

I got few of those along with the BD writers from LG. The issue seems that they don't read DVD data as fast as some of the IDE DVD units that I have, but there are also just plain SATA DVD drives. But they tend to cost more then the run of the mill IDE ones.

Wouldn't you know it, the eVGA mobo is working like a champ last nite, except the boot time. Guess it sense its removal.... Also the NB on the x58's tends to get hot regardless of the fact that the mem control is on the cpu. I added a 40mm fan on top of the NB HS on the ASUS mobo as pre prep on the mobo. Now just hope the V10 cooler will fit with the added height of the NB assembly. The early reviews that claimed the NB shldn't get hot since the mem controller is gone is garbage, as many now notice that it does get hot. I almost got the eVGA Classified instead of the ASUS Revo, but too many stories of heat issue with the eVGA board kind of scared me off. The ASUS P6T7 Supercomp was tempting but its not available yet in retail. Also its going to be really expensive no doubt...

Its going to be Sun or Mon project since this is a long weekend here. Also want to play some of the games I DL'd today instead of doing the transplant. Did upgrades (new mobo's/cpu's/vid cards and a PSU in one to make them hidef ready for BD) on two HTPC's for an old client the last few days so just need a break from looking at computer parts.
post #54 of 133
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I just couldn't resist, had to install the Revo mobo. It was sitting there calling to me... honest . Also I was pissed that the eVGA was taking too long to boot into Windows. At lease the boot up is now back to being accepatble. The NB assembly was too tall with the 40mm fan installed with the V10 cooler. I had to offset the 40mm fan to get the cooler to fit. Only prbm now is a lot of my STEAM games has to be reloaded (updated)...no idea why since nothing has changed with the HDD's. Well I am going to let the system burn in a little before trying some OC'ing.

ADD: STEAM games was updating because the drive letters changed since the SATA ports are diff between the mobo's.... Just killed some of my DL cap...
post #55 of 133
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OC'ing update. The ASUS Revo's BIOS is convoluted when compared to the eVGA BIOS. Everything is seems to be hidden in sub menus and are hard to find at times. After saying all that, the Revo over clocked to 4ghz with just the BCLK to 200 and multi @ 20 (non turbo mode). The system boots into windows but failed the OCCT test after 8 min. This was with everything else set on auto. The CPU voltage was set by the system to ~1.42 and the cores ran at ~73c average and peaked at ~78c+ which prob caused the OCCT run to terminate. I lowered the CPU voltage to 1.35 and BCLK to 195 and it finished the OCCT run and temps average ~65C. So far rock steady. Unfortunately the ASUS mobo does not have sensors for the NB or Vreg that can be picked up by HW Monitor, so no readings. The temp probe that I put on the NB heat sink read ~45c max. The probe on the heat sink by the voltage stage at the back read ~43c max. Still trying to figure out the ASUS BIOS features as to what can be set. Also noted that the mem voltage reads 1.66 when set on auto, where its shld be. While the eVGA always read 167 or 1.68 when set at BIOS to 1.66. No issues with long boot into windows anymore. Also does not loose the ability to boot into Win7 on other drive. The system is set up for dual boots using two separate drives (XP and Win7 RC1). The eVGA would occasionally fail to boot Win7 for some reason. New toy ... . Still can not get a i7-920 D0 at a good price, places want a surcharge for them. Guess I have to wait till June/July for all the C0/C1 to be flushed from retail chain or wait for to see if INTEL will have newer i7's.
post #56 of 133
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Oc'ing ASUS P6T6 WS Revo follow up. The ASUS Revo mobo runs hot (as noted also at HardOCP in their review). But it runs stable regardless. I think I hit the max my particular i7-920 c0/c1 can do. Thats 3.9ghz with vcore at 1.35v non turbo. If I try going to 4ghz the system (either using turbo or not) will boot but fails the stress test with OCCT. If I try raising the vcore to over 1.4v the system crashes with core temps over 80c with OCCT. NB runs very hot even with the 40mm fan and an ANTEC Spotcool fan above it. The SB runs hot also due to thats where the NF200 is located. Weird probm I had was with my X-fi Forte sound card, when it was installed in one of the x16 (non blue slots) the system didn't see it. With 280's SLI (slot one and five as rec) and a 8600GTS in the blue slot three for physx and the Forte in the only PCIe slot left (slot four), the system does not pick up the the sound card. When I removed the 8600GTS and moved the sound card to the 3rd location blue slot, card was found. Didn't try the 8600GTS in slot four since its cooler will be right up against the 280's back side and will not get any air. The system when running a 295 and 8600GTS (or 8800GTX) for PhysX and X-fi forte worked fine with the 295 in blue slot one, the GTS in blue slot three and the Forte in blue slot five. Also with the 295 combo, all the system temps where a lot lower then the 280 SLI setup. This is expected due to the heavier strain/demand of the 280 SLI vs the 295. Hate to see what TRI SLI would be like. Tried to do a QUAD SLI 295 x 2 but Win7 RC1 would not recognize a SATA controller on the mobo and I lost two devices. The ASUS DVD Installation disc will not run in Win7. The VISTA drivers from the ASUS site didn't work either. SO no Win7 RC1 testing for QUAD SLI .

BTW: at worst the system temp was ~55c (most times ~50c) after a few hours of gaming with the 280 SLI setup, CPU temp was ~46-50c @ 3.9ghz. Core temps max'd at ~64c in the worst case. This was not tressing the system 100% as OCCT does but was what was when used for gaming. With OCCT the max core peaked at 74c (average ~70c @ 100% 4 core 8 threads).

ADD: may (?????) go back to the TRUE with push/pull fans, I think I might have hit the barrier with the CM V10 cooler's max thermal dissipating rating since it goes over 80c @ 1.4v vcore.
post #57 of 133
It looks as if you're having one hell of a time with this system.

I'm curious as to what power supply you are using.
post #58 of 133
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It looks as if you're having one hell of a time with this system.

I'm curious as to what power supply you are using.

Corsair 1000w
post #59 of 133
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Boy must had a brain f@rt few night ago. The ASUS DVD that came with the mobo didn't auto run in Win7, but being too stupid and tired, I didn't even open it and install the Marvell raid SATA controller manually. Now the problem is a lot of the games I use for benchies have reach their install limits even tho they are on STEAM (real dumb since they ARE on STEAM). Game publishers got to differentiate between retail box games and those bought from on-line distribution for DRM if they are so worried about 2nd hand use game sales. This just frustrates the legitimate game purchaser.... Also the X-fi forte sound drivers does not seem to work in Win7. Just get stereo and the system just does not see the card being there....

ADD: one of the two devices that was not found by Win7 was my optical drive. Had to connect a USB ext drive to load the software.
post #60 of 133
Tinker,

Have you tried the MSI SuperPipe graphics cards? I'm going to return my EVGA GTX 275, because it has the dreaded squealing sound during particular rendering applications. I replaced it with one of these. Not only are the temps better (and the squealing gone), but the overclocking potential is much better. These would surely do well in SLI.

I think the SuperPipe cards look ugly, but they are considerably more functional than cards that use NVIDIA's reference design.
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