"Official" Olive Thread Opus 4, Opus 6, Melody 2, Olive 2, Olive 4/ 4HD, 06HD - Page 57

hi Marc

Happy holidays to you as well!

Thanks for looking in to this. This is the message that appears after switching on the 2hd:

ATTENTION

System error detected: Please insert the Recovery USB device into your system. Refer to the User Guide for details


Tim

Hi Tim,

This is the 02M or not? It has no hard disk, so that can be not the problem. If you are curious/brave/reckless you could open the unit yourself to verify that all cables are in place and tightly fitted.
But if you still have some warrantly, you could go to your dealer and let him repair the unit (which ultimately is its destiny anyway, I guess).
The recovery USB stick should work anyhow, oughtn't it?
So, if that one fails, it misses something inside.

Good luck.

Marc

I will sent it back to Olive after talking to their support people sometime next week. They dont answer the phone so they're probably closed for the holidays. It does surprise me to see that the 2m seems to have amind of it's own although lacking a harddrive. As I said I'm very reluctant to do a recovery from my back up USB device because of whatever could go wrong with the 2000 cd's I loaded over the last nine months.

Well, thanks anyway. I'll keep you informed.

Cheers, Tim

(p.s.: gelukkig nieuwjaar)

Thanks!

I have been busy with 1365 cd's which I have loaded in about 2,5 year. I still need 2,5 year for the rest, I guess. And I always wonder how other people could handle cd's so quickly.
That said, most of my music is classical.

OT: The Olive 2 should be able to play back from any proper music server, not only other Olive's. So, if you put Twonky on your pc, both your Olive 4 and 2 should be able to see it. (When connected, of course).

I guess your Olive 2 is kaduuk, not your Olive4

Marc

Hi guys,

It turned out to be rather simple after all. Downloaded the recovery file on USB and it just started up ok. I was wrong in assuming that I had to recover from my own back up through the O4hd. Thanks for the advise.

Cheers Tim

Hi everybody!
I just bought a Netgear Stora NAS and the Olive sees it under digital sources along with my photo folder on the NAS.
But Olive cant see my music folders on the NAS.
What could be the problem?
Thanx

Unrelated to the above, I just noticed a menu option called "Set iTunes support" (under general settings). Anyone know what this is about (I have a 4HD)?

I'm having a love/hate relationship with my new Olive 04HD, sometimes it's amazing and sometimes it's been very near going out the window.


I just backed up the drive. I formatted a 2TB drive as exFat (only non NTFS option available), then connected it to the 04HD, which seen it OK, and then spent 8 hours writing to it. It finished all OK, so I thought I would check that something had happend by plugging the drive back into the PC, but the PC no longer sees the drive. Disk management shows the drive is there, but cannot read it.

Is this normal? How do I know the backup has worked? There are so many bugs in the 04HD that I don't have the greatest of confidence that the backup is successful.

I didn't expect the PC to be able to do anything with the files, but I did expect to at least see that they were there.

I don't know about Windows, but in Linux I would try the disk with fdisk. Linux knows of about every filesystem in the world, whereas Windows eh.. does not.
I think Olive formats the drive itself and makes it a hidden partition, just to obscure your valuable music from the hostile outer world. See it as a feature

But Andy, before you throw your 4HD out of the window, think of me. I love it.

@Eric KC: Just google for iTunes. I think it is something from Apple.

Marc

OK, I didn't realize that the Olive formatted the drive as well, I'll just have to assume that the backup data is on there.

One thing that is confusing, is that I have stored all my CD's in FLAC format, so far I have done 343 CDs, and space used reported by the 04HD is 217.3GB, so that is about 633Mb per CD, but that sounds like an uncompressed WAV amount of data, I was expecting a lot less hard drive useage for all FLAC files - does this sound right? As that is looking like a capacity of just over 3000 CD's - I was expecting nearer 6000 (for FLAC format), from a 2TB drive.

Andy, there is some overlap of about 50GB that is used for other stuff, and which is counted as well.
I have about 1375 cd's in about 500GB.
In the next? update this will be fixed:

Marc

Well, I'm upto 440 CD's now with 247Gb useage, so that's 97 more CD's than last time, but an extra drive useage of 322Mb per CD, which is what I would expect. So all going well with disk space - though only about 4,500 CD's to go !

So, if 50Gb is used for "other things", that's a lot of other things, what is it using a huge 50Gb for?

Good question, I don't know. The biggest other file is the database with cd meta data. That takes 8 GB.
But maybe it's more related to the overhead of the file system. The same music library takes less space on a 1 TB disk than it does on a 2 TB disk.

I'm not jealous about your 5000 cd's, i really hope for you that you don't like classical music

Marc

Yes, about 1000 of them are classical, I have been leaving them until last in the rather optimistic hope that Maestro will get updated before then and organise things better.

Though it is the classical compilation CD's that are going to be the real pain (though most classical CD's do have a combination of composers), I have found it best to do one CD at a time, organise the filing system before moving on to the next. At one point I had so many "unknown" entries, I deleted them and ripped the CD's again.

Unless there is some hidden logic that Maestro uses that I have missed. Though it is it's slowness to change things that I find the most frustrating.

One by one is the best way to keep your grip on the growing collection, that's for sure.
I don't think that organizing the classical genre will improve much, as long as Olive depends on freedb and does not update its local database through internet.
Maybe the newer Olives have a better local cd-database (mine has version 1.2.3, I saw version 1.3.2 in my newer Olive 4)

I found cases that the Olive did not recognize a cd, whereas my pc had no problems with it, and cases that the pc found better metadata than the Olive did.

Most people tend to do all the metadata editing with some pc-software, media monkey is popular.

Greetz,
Marc (who likes to know when, if ever, the next update will come)

Read about this a couple of places now ...

Not sure the advantages of an SSD would outweigh significantly less storage ...

http://www.globenewswire.com/newsroo....html?d=239898

Update:

Seems this is now an option when purchasing an Olive, although I don't see it discussed in their marketing content ...

http://www.olive.us/p_htdocs/store/s...?p_id=O4460-1B

I fail to see why anyone would want to pay $750 more to get a quarter of the storage space.

When is the speed of a hard drive going to be too slow to access a stereo audio file?

It sounds like offering something because technology allows it, rather than any great need for it.

If anything is slow, it's the O.S of the Olive, not the access time of a hard drive.

anyone interested in the olive 4, pm me...

My disk is so quiet that an SSD would not help very much. I don't think that it will boost the speed dramatically (you still have the same processor), anyway a hard disk is fast enough for the humble task to play audio.

Nevertheless, for Olive this is a logical step. They are the doctor who gets many faulted disks back for repair, because a client can't replace it him or herself.

Marc

nothing, nothing!

been using iTunes more and more and just need to get rid of some of my gear.

You know, since the introduction of iTunes match, I have been doing the same thing. Now when I burn a CD, it goes into both my iTunes and Olive libraries. The ability to have access to my iTunes library, away from home, is pretty compelling. And despite the workaround described in this forum, the Olive backup protocol remains annoying.

I want the Olive to be the winner in this little showdown, I really do. I guess time will tell ...

Why Olive don't update software since 09/2011?

Has anyone noticed on their Olive android app if You're listening to a song that's above 10minutes once it reaches that minutes the counting gets strange when every couple seconds it shows properly (hours separated by double dot from minutes, ex.13:45) and then for couple seconds the dot disappears (ex. 1345)...on top of it it freezes (only the countdown) quite a bit. I wonder if that's just with my app or a general "fault" with it

If you can wait ten minutes, i will reply.

M rc

Been wondering the same thing myself. With no communication from them, it is hard to say why? A bunch of great stuff that is just taking longer? Or financial issues resulting in fewer developers? Guess I will check their Facebook page to see if they give any insight ...

That took some more minutes (as the software update does).

I was not able to get past the 10 minutes. I started a track, my phone locked, and after opening it again I saw that the app was still at the time that my phone locked. So, it had stopped timing the music.

If I stop the wifi while the app shows a playing track, it just goes on as if nothing has happened.

Apparently it does not refresh the actual track time.

Marc

Marc, when You turn back on Your phone after it locks and see that the timing has froze You have to go back to see the list of artists (albums...) and then click at the bottom on the name of the song that is playing right now and then it will take You back to the song and show it's time properly again. But yes, it's annoying. I thought they will be updating the olive app all the time and and slowly pollish it from all these bugs but seems like they gave up;(