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post #2191 of 2912
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Originally Posted by 3m3rson View Post

Question on the 2010-2012 generation of Olive 03/04HD...

What programs / approaches are people using with success?

For >3 years now: rip it on the Olive, edit it with Maestro, play it with Maestro, or Opus, or directly, or with the App, and studying Sqlite3.

I'm not a fan of Meastro, but at least it works for me, being myself a bit lazy and slow. rolleyes.gif
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What I have discovered is that if you import FLAC files with "album artist" metadata into the Olive, these appear listed as a "composer" within the Olive's native database, which you can then browse. Problem solved!

That's not problem solved, that's a problem by itself. These guys are no composers.

I'm still figuring out how to get rid of them.

M cool.gif rc
post #2192 of 2912
Hi,

I have given myself a Christmas present in the form of a Samsung tablet. It runs Android 4, and for some stupid reasons I thought that the Olive App would be available for newer androids than I have on my phone, but, guess what, I could not find it in the Google Play store. Really?
I saw meself already sitting on the couch playing whit the big Olive App on my big tablet screen, but err, no?!?

Someone here with a more juicy experience?
Anyway, Maestro and Olive_opus are there, but the App?

Meanwhile, I wish you all a very happy Christmas time an a gorgeous New Year!

M smile.gif rc
post #2193 of 2912
Radiostations are easiest added in your browser, with Olive_opus
In your browser: http://your ip-address/olive_opus.php

Then, goto internet radio -> Add New Station.
First enter the name that you find useful, after that give the internet-address
For instance, I found these links for our Dutch public radio-streams:
http://content1b.omroep.nl/63abac6fb80ffb2978334dcc03d8f034/50d994d8/portal/OmroepNLdownload/NPOAudiostreams.pdf

For Radio2 NL
the address is:
http://icecast.omroep.nl/radio2-bb-mp3

In opus you can click the characters and ciffers, it is a bit tedious, but it works. After SAVE you have to give it a genre from the list.
You will find your self-added station in the favourites section.

Now you only have to find the links for your radio station!

BTW I found the app for my new tablet, here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=olive.app

M biggrin.gif rc
Edited by mumsoft - 12/26/12 at 6:02am
post #2194 of 2912
Happy Holidays to all

Our house was heavily damaged by Hurricane Sandy and we were forced to evacuate on October 29

we just moved back in upstairs while repairs continue downstairs: still have several more weeks until the entire house is fixed
post #2195 of 2912
Sorry to hear that Mark. I hope that the new year will do (much) better for you.

Marc
Edited by mumsoft - 12/25/12 at 12:18pm
post #2196 of 2912
hi everyone,

I have an olive 4HD for years.
works fine doing its digital output to feed my dac.

for a week now olive is stuck on "wait system is starting up",
-i tryed the recovery cd method, does not work.
-I tryed the usb stick method , does not work ,(holding both keys doesn't do nothing)

then I open it, pluged the hd to my computer, there is 2 operating systems on the disk, one with boot flag( but doesnt boot)
when changing boot flag to the other OS.It doesnt boot either.

does any one have an idea?

mery xmas to all.
post #2197 of 2912
fsck sdb2 and 3, not sdb1
also sdb5 and sfb7

Get yourself a knoppix cd to do that.

Marc
post #2198 of 2912
I have asked Olive if the 'old' Opus 4 will get any updates anymore or not.

Not to my surprise the answer is no.
To my surprise the reason is the limited hardware.
In my opinion they never made a more musical capable device as the Opus 4.
A friend of mine, who heard my Olive, bought himself an 03HD, but he was disappointed.
I bought a Cambridge Dacmagic which now seldom is switched on. The internal sound chip suffices for a gorgeous 3D and live experience.
Hence I call my Olive my O Live.

It goes far beyond hifi.

Good luck to you all

Marc
post #2199 of 2912
@gc
Most likely the 5. partition is damaged. With fsck, which is chkdsk in dos/windos speak, you can repair that
fsck sd?5, with the correct letter, a b c... for '?'

Good luck
post #2200 of 2912
@numsoft

I have repaired the 5 partition with gparted, there was lots of issues.
But infortunatly olive still doesn't boot.

Any other idea?
A someone has a cloned disk of the system partitions?
post #2201 of 2912
You wrote
-i tryed the recovery cd method, does not work
-I tryed the usb stick method , does not work ,(holding both keys doesn't do nothing)

In my manual it says that you have to power up the Olive while holding the OK and Play buttons. If I do that, it displays a message to insert the Recovery cd. That comes from the board, not from the hard disk.
So, if that does not do anything in your case, it's not the hard disk, but the main board. And of course it will damage the hard disk when you try to boot with it, because you have te shut down the Olive while it does something unknown with the disk.

BTW: have you restored the boot flag?

Marc
post #2202 of 2912
Just got myself two brand new 2TB disks for Christmas.

With the recovery disk 4.1.2 or 4.1.4 they are formatted with this result...



The recovery says that it failed, which is right. The swap parttion is not defined, and the music partition is empty.
Nevertheless, you can copy your music to it and define the swap partition as, eh, swap partition.

I expect that it will boot after all.

Marc
post #2203 of 2912
Hi,

I have done a repair on the boot partition.
And hope it is ot a hardware issue.
I think I will go to the SF olive office, and ask them.

I'll keep the result posted here.
post #2204 of 2912
Dear all,

I posted an issue a few pages back with my Olive 04HD, where it didn't start properly. Well, thanks to our holidays and unplug the Olive for a little more than 2 weeks from power, I put it back
to Power and somehow it worked again. I don't have any explanation for this as of now, but it worked! Olive support was also very supportive, but they also came up with the conclusion to return it back to a dealer, which is quite difficult in Germany, as of now, as no dealer is available......... .....

Anyway, one question.
I also made myself a nice christmas present in form of a external USB 1TB Harddrive von Western Digital. It's working fine and the back up via Olive worked perfectly.

To the issue:
I have a Macbook Pro and tried to read the USB disc via Mac OS, which don't work since it's now formatted in EXT3 by Olive. I thought I'm clever, when creating to partitions. 1 with FAT32 for let's say 500GB and the other 500 GB with NTFS. Plug it into the Olive and let Olive automatically create the EXT3 partition with the FAT32 partition.

Well, it doesn't work. I would like to have a final result, of my external drive, saving the backup with the Olive and using the other space for other stuff, like editing videos's or what ever. If this doesn't work (which I assume) I would like to use the external drive at least as back up medium for the Olive, read the external disc and put the files to a safe place on my Time Capsule.

Is there a way? Thanks for any support!

Cheers, Marcel
post #2205 of 2912
Hi,

quite accidentally I read of interesting 'Sitecom Media Controller' as an alternative app to control Olives by IOS hardware.

https://itunes.apple.com/hk/app/sitecom-media-controller/id493000993?mt=8


regards
Mats
post #2206 of 2912
Absolutely amazing!!! I love it! Just to see alternatives is really nice.Thanks for sharing, Mats.
post #2207 of 2912
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Originally Posted by Uthlande View Post

Hi,

quite accidentally I read of interesting 'Sitecom Media Controller' as an alternative app to control Olives by IOS hardware.

https://itunes.apple.com/hk/app/sitecom-media-controller/id493000993?mt=8


regards
Mats

great find: Thank you

Happy New Year smile.gif
post #2208 of 2912
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcel Ley View Post

Dear all,
[...]
To the issue:
I have a Macbook Pro and tried to read the USB disc via Mac OS, which don't work since it's now formatted in EXT3 by Olive. I thought I'm clever, when creating to partitions. 1 with FAT32 for let's say 500GB and the other 500 GB with NTFS. Plug it into the Olive and let Olive automatically create the EXT3 partition with the FAT32 partition.
Well, it doesn't work. I would like to have a final result, of my external drive, saving the backup with the Olive and using the other space for other stuff, like editing videos's or what ever. If this doesn't work (which I assume) I would like to use the external drive at least as back up medium for the Olive, read the external disc and put the files to a safe place on my Time Capsule.
Is there a way? Thanks for any support!
Cheers, Marcel

Marcel,

As far as I know your Olive will take the whole disk as backup medium. The only 'solution' I can think of, is buying a 500GB disk in the hope that Olive won't find it too small.
For Windows exists software to read Linux formats like EXT3, I assume something similar can be found for the Mac which internally has some version of BSD.

I (google) found this to start with: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57457850-263/how-to-manage-ext2-ext3-disks-in-os-x/

Marc
post #2209 of 2912
Hi all,
I'm new to this forum so maybe that question has been answered already. I'm using since years an Olive O4HD and I mostly import flac files to this unit. I'm editing the ID3 tags quite carefully but what I never managed to achieve is that the disc number or the disc total gets populated. That's a problem when you have multiple CD's in one album. Currently I need to use "albumname (Disc 1)" "albumname (Disc 2)" to have the titles in a "correct" order. If I would use just "albumname" then title 1 of disc 2 would follow title 1 of disc 1.
Does anyone know if there is a ID3 tag I can use that would map to disc number and disc total. The usual ones (DISC, DISCNUMBER, DISCTOTAL, TOTALDISC) I already tried without success. Thanks for an answer or for pointing me to an answer in that thread.
Rene
post #2210 of 2912
Thread Starter 
Hi all. I haven't posted here in a while, rather I've just been lurking. I wanted to make the suggestion that anyone with an Olive put the unit on a UPS to protect it against electrical blackouts, brownouts and surges while the Olive is in on or in standby mode so you can properly completely power down the unit. before it loses power Electrical problems like these can fry computer components and corrupt hard disks, and I suspect they may be contributing factors to some of the problems people are writing about here on the forum. It isn't any different than what happens when you disconnect your computer from power while it is in operations. Usually the results are not good.

My other suggestion would be to completely power off your Olive (using the switch on the back) if you are not using it for long periods of time and/or do not have a UPS. This way you prevent the Olive from losing power if you have a prolonged power outage that the UPS can not compensate for, or you don't have a UPS and the power goes out while the unit is in standby.

A good quality APC UPS that would do the job isn't very expensive, around $70 US. This should give you around 15-20 minutes of back up power.

Happy New Year.
post #2211 of 2912
Happy New Year all. Just put the sitecom media controller app on my iPad, and it works very nice. Thanks all.
post #2212 of 2912
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uthlande View Post

Hi,
quite accidentally I read of interesting 'Sitecom Media Controller' as an alternative app to control Olives by IOS hardware.
https://itunes.apple.com/hk/app/sitecom-media-controller/id493000993?mt=8
regards
Mats
Brilliant. Thanks for the great find. Someone was advertising an app called Pimento a while ago that claimed to read Olive devices, but it was able to stream MP3 only. This Site Media controller is superb (so far) on my iPod touch. Plays WAV and FLAC files and it even shows the album art from the Olive before you select to play a track, which the official Olive App can't do. At the same time it shows any music on other networked devices. Will explore more over the next few days... but so far biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

UPDATE: The main negative appears to be that when playing tracks on the Olive it will only play the track selected, not continuing with the subsequent tracks on the album. There is the advantage that the Site Media Controller app shows the total time of the track (which the Olive App doesn't), though it only 'counts' through the track if you're outputting it through the iPod/Pad not if you're outputting from the Olive.
Edited by Viritrilbia - 1/1/13 at 9:32am
post #2213 of 2912
The Olive app does show the total track time. It's at the right of the time-indicator.

@ZBrett.
I happened to read an article in my computer magazine about UPS'es. they are meant for computers, and although the Olive looks like a computer, in reality it is a music device. These tend to be quite sensitive for the quality of the current, and an UPS makes no nice sinus like waveform, but something more rectangular. Computers don't care, but I wonder if the Olives don't.

I guess you already have an UPS, can you tell something about the quality of the music? With and without the UPS?

Marc
post #2214 of 2912
I noted the same fault that Viritrilbia found with Sitecom Media Controller, i.e., playing only one track at a time. I cannot be too hard on the app since it is free, but the lack of an ability to sting tracks together would normally be a dealbreaker. I would not wish to listen to a piano recital or vocal recital or even better an opera where the average track length is about 4 or 5 minutes and there may be 20-30 on a CD. It bothered me just listening to a four movement symphony. On the other hand, I found that the app picks up other servers quite well but with some strange quirks. It picked up my very old Escient BUT it did not display the music-very strange. It did pick up my very old Sonos system(purchased on day 2 of its availability) and even labeled the units according to their location. It picked up the music stored on the Escient and sent to the proper location. Very odd and perhaps I will try to figure out why. The app will occasionally go to sleep but the music will continue to play(my user setting) and it seems to be more stable on the iPAD than the iPhone. I read a number of the user reviews and a fair number mentioned that the app crashed quite often. Have not had that happen yet but I have only used it for a day or so. Its overall rating was not very high but it would appear that the users of the app were more interested in video than audio.
post #2215 of 2912
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mumsoft View Post

The Olive app does show the total track time. It's at the right of the time-indicator.
@ZBrett.
I happened to read an article in my computer magazine about UPS'es. they are meant for computers, and although the Olive looks like a computer, in reality it is a music device. These tend to be quite sensitive for the quality of the current, and an UPS makes no nice sinus like waveform, but something more rectangular. Computers don't care, but I wonder if the Olives don't.
I guess you already have an UPS, can you tell something about the quality of the music? With and without the UPS?
Marc

I can't detect any difference in the sound with and without a UPS. APC does make several more expensive UPS units that are geared toward audiophile equipment. However, I suspect the power supply in the Olive is closer to a computer power supply than a power supply for something like a high end amp.
post #2216 of 2912
I use the APC true sine wave UPS to power my 06HD:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00429N19W/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

to me it is important to protect against power dropouts and 'dirty power'
post #2217 of 2912
Here in Holland (or must I say, in The Netherlands?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eE_IUPInEuc#at=48
), we seldom have a power failure, and my Olive is always without power at night and on working days.
I know people who had a Powerplant from PS Audio (http://www.psaudio.com/shop/p3-power-plant/) who reported a less involving sound with it. So, I guess an 'ordinary' UPS will easily do the same to the sound.

Marc
post #2218 of 2912
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Originally Posted by mumsoft View Post

The Olive app does show the total track time. It's at the right of the time-indicator.
@ZBrett.
I happened to read an article in my computer magazine about UPS'es. they are meant for computers, and although the Olive looks like a computer, in reality it is a music device. These tend to be quite sensitive for the quality of the current, and an UPS makes no nice sinus like waveform, but something more rectangular. Computers don't care, but I wonder if the Olives don't.
I guess you already have an UPS, can you tell something about the quality of the music? With and without the UPS?
Marc
Maybe I'm missing something but the Olive app (IOS) that I have does not show any time information when playing tracks - there is no time indicator or counter. Please show me I've missed a trick!smile.gif
post #2219 of 2912
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Originally Posted by Viritrilbia View Post

Maybe I'm missing something but the Olive app (IOS) that I have does not show any time information when playing tracks - there is no time indicator or counter. Please show me I've missed a trick!smile.gif

I don't think you missed something. I think it's a difference in both apps, the IOS version was earlier than the Android version, and they are not equal.

Here is a picture of the Android version 1:


(just learned how to make screenshots on my tablet, the little dots below are my mistakes)

Marc
post #2220 of 2912
This week I have ripped some cd's with a flaw on the surface. I could easily see the little scratch at the beginning of the tracks, and all these cd's ended with a warning about a bad track, when I ripped them on the Olive. When I ripped the cd's with my standard Linux ripper (K3B), there was no problem at all.
My conclusion is, that the Olive is particularly critical in ripping, it will halt on errors, and it does not try to mimicry dbPoweramp or EAC. If it rips a good track, you can count on it.

Just wanted to share this.

Marc
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