Originally Posted by Alan Spool
I have an O4HD with over 1K CDs on it, but have not been religious about fixing the metadata as it comes (Maestro is too slow, and when it finds an unexpected composer there is a bug that requires a refresh- more slowness). I have a lot of classical music, and now it is impossible to find anything. I need to find a better way to update the metadata. I have been looking at Sonata software and wonder if I can access the Olive's data (all FLAC files), Sonata might be able to fix it up. Has anyone tried anything like this? Otherwise, I need to think about (shudder) starting over again (and probably not with an Olive)
BTW I also have had trouble recently getting files onto the Olive from my PC this week. I can map a network drive, but not the straight up address. It needs to go to \\192.168.2.28\import. Then I get mapped, but stuff I send there does not ever seem to appear on my Olive. I can rip the CDs the Olive database recognizes, which is half the CDs I purchase... I have not tried to reach Olive on this one yet.
I have been experimenting in the evenings with several options, as I plan to acquire an Olive ONE as our third system and it will not work directly with the existing music library (which is a shame and hopefully rectified). We are MAC based at home, but I tried some PC stuff as well on a laptop.
Comments on above post (apologies if this was the first thing you looked at): check the actual address of your Olive (network information from the settings tab on the Olive homescreen). This can change from time to time, especially if there was a power outage for example.
- every software music server (Itunes, Olive, XBMC, MediaMonkey) I have looked at so far works like the Olive - there is metadata in the CD 'ID3' tag and there is data in the local library database managed by the software. These are complimentary but separate.
-XBMC has very good library management in my opinion, but it is sensitive to good ID3 tags - a poorly tagged CD will not scan into the library. There are no 'unknown artists'. They use something they call scrapers where they troll for more information (such as lyrics), again catured only inthe XBMC library database. On a MAC, it does not support ripping of CD's as best I can tell and from forum comments.
-Overall, there are more choices on Windows platform than on a MAC platform (no surprise, Itunes is an effecive barrier)
- there are good tag editiors out there (PA Software for PC, XLD for MAC). Used XLD, did not purchase the software form PA Software, but excellent reviews
-XLD software is activley updated, the user interface is clunky and not well documented. But once you get the work flow worked out (I can provide some tips), it does a very good job ripping CD's and provides a detailed log file if you are really interested in the gory details. Also converts between lossless formats.
-XLD interfaces with freedB and Musicbrainz for artwork; if you want to up the game, you can create a (free) Web Services agreement with Amazon and XLD will access the Amazon databases as well for high quality images.
-XLD lets you edit the tag metadata ahead of the rip,
- once ripped the XLD folder (which you can name as you see fit) scans easily into the XBMC library as well as uploads to the Olive. Once in the Olive you may want to customize some Maestro settings of course.
-overall, the Olive ripping is on par with most others, except you can get more artwork choices with certain others.
Missing data or unknown CD's
- I see this less frequently than others, but we don't have an extensive classical collection at all. But recently tried to add an old Oscar Peterson jazz cd (1950's recording, CD is likely from the early/mid '80's) - Olive did not recognize it for ripping, but when you played a track directly using the Olive CD player it had everything correct- artwork, track title, etc. Itunes did slightly better but broke it into 4 albums organized by the first artist on any given track. Mediamonkey did a little better than Itunes, but no artwork and album title was slightly wrong. XLD did best, and using Musicbrainz got the correct artwork as well. Go figure.