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post #2701 of 2926
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Originally Posted by wolfert View Post



Just to check:



Did anybody find a way to browse albumart on a iPad (using the Olive 4)?



Not with the Olive app. I use two  apps at the same time. The original Olive which very often looses connection  and the SITECOM app. The Sitecom works very good when searching via album artwork.



The comparison of both:



SITECOM:                                                    Olive:



- only playing track by track                                - often crashes



- rewind doesnt work                                          - unresponsible



+ very stable                                                     - no artwork search



+artwork search works                             - doesnt show long track names in every Ipad position



+ faster track and album refresh                    - turning Ipad doesnt change the  screen(player)



+ turning the Ipad works in every direction             + playing whole album


Edited by berni - 11/11/13 at 4:35am
post #2702 of 2926
^^^

I get cover art from my FLAC files using the Olive app for Android
post #2703 of 2926

The app for Android came out later and has this feature, the Ipad app was never upgraded even after numerious 

 suggestions from users.

post #2704 of 2926
Nag nag.
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post #2706 of 2926
Is there a way to play more then 1 track with Sitecom?
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post #2708 of 2926
Olive is incredible - I have never made such an experience of bad communication. The delay of the ONE goes on, they estimate to ship it next year (July 2013 --> 2014), although promised to ship until christmas ("worst case").
post #2709 of 2926

Hi Cl, wondering if you might give me some guidance. I have an 06HD that is stuck on the "white screen of death" after it accidentally got unplugged while in standby mode. I have tried to work with Olive (their support folks do test one's patience) and after trying all their suggestions, they finally told me to do the USB recovery. Problem is, I have 900 albums on the hard disk and dont' have a back up (was about to do that when it failed). So I don't want to lose all that work in loading the albums. I am thinking I can replace the hard drive with a new one, then do the usb recover on the new drive, and then figure out out to get the files off the old disk with a computer. You appear to have done something similar and also you sound to be much more experienced with this sort of thing than I am.  Would my idea work of getting a new hard drive, swapping with the old and reflashing with the USB stick? Is it then possible to get the music files off the old disk?  Appreciate any tips you might be able to share. Thanks so much.

 

Matt

post #2710 of 2926
Never ever do a recovery without having a proper backup!!!
I hope you know someone with some linux knowledge. Start with fsck on sda2 and 3, 5 and 7.
sda2 or 3 have the os. If you do a recovery on a blank hard disk, you'll get properly filled sda2 or3 back, that you eventually can copy over to the failing disk with your music

Marc
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Marc, I must confess, that is all over my head. I do know someone that i think knows Linux well so I will solicit their help. 

post #2712 of 2926
Do so. One more advise: don't let him touch sda1 with fsck.

Marc
post #2713 of 2926
This is my third post in the last few days about problems with my Olive 6HD. Unfortunately, I am still waiting for my posts to actually appear on this board. What gives?

Sorry for any repetition but the latest is that Olive advised me to do a USB recovery. I followed all their instructions but, after inserting the USB stick, I get a message saying "USB recovery failed. Please power off the system and retry." I' ve retried more than ten times and keep getting the same message. Communications with Olive are slow to say the least. They seem to have no phone contacts, their online chat feature never works, and you have to rely on email to communicate with them. It can take a while to get a response. Does anyone here have a suggestion?
post #2714 of 2926
^^^

you started two new threads for your other posts: that is why they do not appear here: I can delete them for you if you want

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1501886/olive-6hd-problem#post_23998376

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1501701/olive-6hd-problem
post #2715 of 2926
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Originally Posted by stebro View Post


Sorry for any repetition but the latest is that Olive advised me to do a USB recovery. I followed all their instructions but, after inserting the USB stick, I get a message saying "USB recovery failed. Please power off the system and retry." I' ve retried more than ten times and keep getting the same message. Communications with Olive are slow to say the least. They seem to have no phone contacts, their online chat feature never works, and you have to rely on email to communicate with them. It can take a while to get a response. Does anyone here have a suggestion?

Of course... But I doubt if you like it.
My humble Olive 4's also never do the recovery shuffle as they should, and I have several recovery cd's at hand. But that doesn't matter much, anyway, a properly recovered disk is just as empty as a failed recovery disk, considering the music.
When my guess is right, you don't have a clone of your Olive, but, in stead, you do have a backup of your music? In that case, I should go this way: open the Olive, replace the internal disk with a new one (the same size, is it 2TB?), and try the recovery again.
Once it succeeds, you can restore the backup.

And after that, don't forget to clone the working disk to the other that you have. Than you have two working Olive disks.

Alternatively, try to find someone with a working Olive and kindly ask if you may borrow his/her internal disk.
As far as I know, every disk in any Olive 4, 03HD, 04HD and 06HD will do.

Marc
post #2716 of 2926

Hello Everyone,

 

         Just bought an Olive Melody 2 (blindly) over the weekend because the price was cheap. (the shop had a closing sale and this was on their rack) Went home to test it.

Ethernet connection is fine but wireless had some issue connecting. (my router has no encryption) There was some lagging with the controls (both panel and remote) during music play. So I reset the unit to default settings.  I've noticed that the firmware is 3.0.2. I wanted to update the firmware using wired connection but it just wouldn't connect. Tried wireless and got an error. It says that network configuration could not be saved.

 

  I went to the website and there is an update for olive 4 (http://www.olive.us/support/software/installation.html) through USB. Is this the right method? Or is there another way or another file? 

 

  I apologize if this was already discussed.  thanks in advance.  

 

 

cheers, 

post #2717 of 2926
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Originally Posted by mumsoft View Post

Of course... But I doubt if you like it.
My humble Olive 4's also never do the recovery shuffle as they should, and I have several recovery cd's at hand. But that doesn't matter much, anyway, a properly recovered disk is just as empty as a failed recovery disk, considering the music.
When my guess is right, you don't have a clone of your Olive, but, in stead, you do have a backup of your music? In that case, I should go this way: open the Olive, replace the internal disk with a new one (the same size, is it 2TB?), and try the recovery again.
Once it succeeds, you can restore the backup.

And after that, don't forget to clone the working disk to the other that you have. Than you have two working Olive disks.

Alternatively, try to find someone with a working Olive and kindly ask if you may borrow his/her internal disk.
As far as I know, every disk in any Olive 4, 03HD, 04HD and 06HD will do.

Marc

- A while ago I was able to create a clone disk by using the recovery USB and then restoring the back-up music. Regarding the restore USB - it is a big file (1.8GB if I recall) and I did several downloads before I got:
a) the right file size according to the Olive description
b) two downloads that exactly matched each other

Try doing the download late at night, Pacific time.

Then the restore worked exactly as promised, used a notebook sized (2.5") 2TB drive for quietness to replace the original 3.5" hard drive (see some posts earlier this year). Don't know on whose end the problems were occurring, but I think with such a long download servers were timing out.
post #2718 of 2926
Is there a way to play more then 1 track with Sitecom?


I do not believe anyone has replied so I will give it a shot. I share your frustration with Sitecom or at least I did. I even removed it from my list of apps on the iPad. Recently I reinstalled it and miracle of miracles, it worked and played the entire selection. Or at least it did for about two or three days. Well, I have a solution but it may not be worth the trouble. The program works sporadically on the iPad-playing one track then stopping, playing no tracks(not recognizing the file), or playing the entire selection as it should. However, I have the luxury(folly?) of having multiple output sources(Sonos, direct output to receiver). I have two wireless Sonos speakers attached to the network and can stream the selection(all the movements without a hitch) to the speakers. Ditto with the receiver(Yamaha) that is connected to two Martin Logan floorstanding speakers. No trouble here either. All of this of course is using Sitecom as the control. To my nonprofessional ear, this sounds like the program is fine but the iPad is interfering with the signal at some point. Don't ask me to explain but that should give you some other avenues to pursue. For what it is worth, the iPad or at least my iPad is very finicky in its connections. For instance, right now, it cannot access my music and my movies stored on the main machine but the iPhone can. It will probably reconnect itself in a day or so so I leave it alone and use the iPhone. This has happened before. I doubt if I can be of additional help but I am available if need be. I should state in closing that my comments apply solely to classical music but I suspect the same procedure should follow for popular music.
post #2719 of 2926
Here's the latest on my sick Olive 6HD. The USB restore failed. Olive advised me to return the unit to them for repairs. However, they have just notified that they have no spare parts to do the repair and don't expect them for several weeks. I hate to be without the Olive that long, but I don't seem to have a choice.
post #2720 of 2926
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Originally Posted by clpetersen View Post

- A while ago I was able to create a clone disk by using the recovery USB and then restoring the back-up music. Regarding the restore USB - it is a big file (1.8GB if I recall) and I did several downloads before I got:
a) the right file size according to the Olive description
b) two downloads that exactly matched each other

Try doing the download late at night, Pacific time.

Then the restore worked exactly as promised, used a notebook sized (2.5") 2TB drive for quietness to replace the original 3.5" hard drive (see some posts earlier this year). Don't know on whose end the problems were occurring, but I think with such a long download servers were timing out.

Thanks for your post.
It urged me to re-download the recoveryfile for the Olive 4, version 4.1.4. All recovery files are about 600MB, they should fit on a blank cd. My second download gave me the exact same file as I got previously.
So, no problems with a wacky internet.

Marc
post #2721 of 2926
I am moving on:

I bought a Kaleidescape Cinema One with Disc Vault and will sell my 06HD
post #2722 of 2926
Way to go, Mark. I think we owners all realize that the Olive HD server was a great idea that was poorly implemented, along with lousy sporatic customer support, and therefore little hope for the future of the company. I'll be looking at the Meridian Sooloos as a replacement.
post #2723 of 2926
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Originally Posted by J.Mike Ferrara View Post

Way to go, Mark. I think we owners all realize that the Olive HD server was a great idea that was poorly implemented, along with lousy sporatic customer support, and therefore little hope for the future of the company. I'll be looking at the Meridian Sooloos as a replacement.

Hi J.Mike - let us know what you think of the Meridian. I have seen a lot of mixed reviews, bu the user interface gets very high marks.. I will keep the Olive running I suppose unitl it stops as I have good confidence I can get to all the music files in one of several ways, though maybe tedious. Lately, all rips are done on the MAC using XLD and then imported to the Olive. No problems and I am building an independent library.

Has anyone tried J River on a MAC yet? J River recently moved to this OS.
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I would buy your broken one if the price is right. I don't mind working on electronics. I worked over my 04HD several times now
post #2725 of 2926
clp: what with the pricing now lower than the Meridian Sooloos, maybe the way to go is with the K that Mark is getting.
post #2726 of 2926
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Originally Posted by J.Mike Ferrara View Post

clp: what with the pricing now lower than the Meridian Sooloos, maybe the way to go is with the K that Mark is getting.

I looked at that - the K machine - looks pretty good. You will need a display, but that could just be an iPad if you are using it strictly for music. If you read carefully, you are required to have Blu-ray disks loaded to view them, even if ripped into memory. Hence the vault option for Kaleidascape.

When I got the Olive, and paid the small fee to the RIAA, I was curious about all this. Turns out music CD's cannot have, by law, encryption as the recording industry accepted a small royalty on all blank CD's in lieu of encryption. By the advent of DVD's they had become smarter, digital wise, and opted for encryption.
So, you can make copies of CD's -- called 'space-shifting' in the legal vernacular, but only temporary copies of ('time-shifting') of DVD's and similar (allowing the use of DVR's). Fun stuff, sort of. But you need to have the paid-for source material in all cases. No freebies.
post #2727 of 2926
Its still a pitty from Olive. How much money would it cost to make a better remote app? Because that is really the most urgent reason to switch so something else.
I have done all my ripping on a PC, so no problems there.

If only Olive could make an remote app that is usable if you have 3000+ CD's....
post #2728 of 2926
Really?
I use a tablet and maestro and opus to control it all. I don't need this app.
Furthermore, I do my best to keep the Olive in working condition, and I will postpone any shift to an alternative until I have to.
Recently I bought a very cheap HD-video thing from Conrad, gave it the same treatment as my Olive 4, and now I can watch dvd's, tv-recordings, and whatever.

It's not a move forward, it's additional.
post #2729 of 2926

Just started a hard disc recovery on my Olive 04HD after taking it apart and cleaning connections including the ribbon cables. I did find two screws loose in the case from the right hand side of the Teac CD drive... upon trying to insert them the threads are striped so a bit of superglue to the rescue.

 

Booting still no luck in getting past the white start up screen...hence the last resort....restoring it back to its factory state. I have my doubts that this will work as I think the Hard Drive is damaged but it is worth a go.

 

I was suprised how much space there was in the case....I had it in my head that the drive was in a sandwich of sound deadening material for some reason....after reading a review?

 

I will report back if the Olive is Alive!!

post #2730 of 2926

Olive is alive..... but the display is a bit iffy. I had disconnected the ribbons and the one that is on the front panel cable the lug on one side of the crimp came off (The small piece of plastic that clamps the ribbon to the circuit board multi pin connector). I thought the connection would be okay as all the plastic piece does is wedge and push the connections onto the pins. I need to take it apart again to try and get the display correct.

 

Its okay on text but shaded greys like on the screen buttons and album artwork look like a colour channel is missing/low resolution.

 

Oh well.... cure one problem and get another....

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