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post #1921 of 2015
10/23/11 at 5:21am
I don't think there is an issue with brightness with this projector. I always use it on the low lamp setting and it is plenty bright. During football games I often have a light on behind me in the room and it is still bright enough. Are there a lot of hours on your bulb?
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post #1922 of 2015
10/23/11 at 7:05am
Please do not get me wrong. I love the pq and color on this pj. I was comparing the brightness to the epson I had and the epson on normal was a tad brighter but the overall pq on the jvc is much better and more natural to me. I just get temptes as you to try some of the other gimicks. I had a thx setting on the epson and rarely used it. Would just love to tempt fate some time and try it. But I do think you are right leave well enough alone. I did have the pj mounted on a shelf in the rear of the room and I moved it forward about 6 1/2 ft and ceiling mounted it. I did get a bit brighter but I think it might have lowered the contrast a tad just could be my old eyes. I also use the normal lamp setting and relly cannot complain about this pj. really loving it.
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post #1923 of 2015
10/23/11 at 10:08am
I'm not sure what the obssesion is with trying to get the THX mode on the HD350. It still won't have the CMS and there are enough controls in the HD350 to obtain a flat greyscale and gamma (if not colour gamut) that would probably be more accurate anyway if calibrated in room. Perhaps those with pseudo THX might prefer the colour temp and gamma that this setting gives, but without measuring it may be less accurate than one of the stock HD350/RS10 modes. So it's then a question of preferance rather than accuracy.

In other words...I wouldn't risk it, I'd calibrate it properly instead (when they look pretty good IMHO, especially with an external CMS added).
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post #1924 of 2015
10/23/11 at 10:35am
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Originally Posted by Kelvin1965S View Post

I'm not sure what the obssesion is with trying to get the THX mode on the HD350. It still won't have the CMS and there are enough controls in the HD350 to obtain a flat greyscale and gamma (if not colour gamut) that would probably be more accurate anyway if calibrated in room. Perhaps those with pseudo THX might prefer the colour temp and gamma that this setting gives, but without measuring it may be less accurate than one of the stock HD350/RS10 modes. So it's then a question of preferance rather than accuracy.

In other words...I wouldn't risk it, I'd calibrate it properly instead (when they look pretty good IMHO, especially with an external CMS added).

Kelvin:
I would not call mine an obsession and I have been listening as I said I do like to tinker but have resisted and will probably never touch it as I really am happy with the way it is now. I do agree with you leave well enough alone and it is too expensive a toy to risk damaging and or voiding out the warranty.
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post #1925 of 2015
10/23/11 at 12:10pm
I was just pointing out that there are already the controls available as standard to achieve a 'perfect' greyscale and gamma if you have the patience to use them. The THX mode on the RS20 just uses a 6500K colour temp, not sure which gamma, but possibly the custom 2.2 default one and (the bit that we can't have) a preset CMS setting (I used the 6500K and custom 2.2 gamma as a starting point for calibrating mine originally and found it some way off especially gamma). As we don't have the CMS on our RS10s I don't see why you would risk uploading the 'wrong' firmware to get another (possibly inaccurate) greyscale/gamma setting. Simply editting a user setting to use the 6500K colour temp and 2.2 gamma (and incidently zeroing the sharpness and detail enhance) should give you the RS10's equivalent of THX setting, but without the risk.

Any firmware update (even the correct RS10 one) holds an element of risk so it seems an unnecessary risk to try to upgrade an RS10 with RS20 firmware...that's all I'm saying. You still won't have the CMS (or won't gain the extra 20,000:1 contrast), so I can't see the point and would like to caution others against trying it. Not trying to be arguementitive, but rather suggesting a safer way of achieving the same end result.
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post #1926 of 2015
10/23/11 at 1:41pm
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Originally Posted by Kelvin1965S View Post

I was just pointing out that there are already the controls available as standard to achieve a 'perfect' greyscale and gamma if you have the patience to use them. The THX mode on the RS20 just uses a 6500K colour temp, not sure which gamma, but possibly the custom 2.2 default one and (the bit that we can't have) a preset CMS setting (I used the 6500K and custom 2.2 gamma as a starting point for calibrating mine originally and found it some way off especially gamma). As we don't have the CMS on our RS10s I don't see why you would risk uploading the 'wrong' firmware to get another (possibly inaccurate) greyscale/gamma setting. Simply editting a user setting to use the 6500K colour temp and 2.2 gamma (and incidently zeroing the sharpness and detail enhance) should give you the RS10's equivalent of THX setting, but without the risk.

Any firmware update (even the correct RS10 one) holds an element of risk so it seems an unnecessary risk to try to upgrade an RS10 with RS20 firmware...that's all I'm saying. You still won't have the CMS (or won't gain the extra 20,000:1 contrast), so I can't see the point and would like to caution others against trying it. Not trying to be arguementitive, but rather suggesting a safer way of achieving the same end result.

Hello. I do not think you are being arguememtitive at all. I think you have given some very well thought out and good advise. As I said I do get tempted to play but I am very happy with my current adjustments. I have done most of what you suggested above with very excellent results. Thanks.
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post #1927 of 2015
10/24/11 at 2:39pm
Just wanted to report that I had a bad pink stripe experience similar to Guiness77's. I sent my RS10 in at 2 yrs, 9 months, 1600 hours, after seeing the pink stripe that grew over time. They quoted me ~$2,800 for an optical block. After several unpleasant weeks of trying to talk to the right people at JVC, they did agree to take 1/2 off. But I still felt it wasn't worth it, so I had them send it back, unfixed. I had to pay $50 diagnostic, plus the $80 to ship it there in the first place (but they did pay for shipping back). I plan on buying a new PJ soon, but am still holding out hope JVC will step up and recall/replace these apparently defective optical blocks before their PJ reputation suffers badly.

Now I am trying to decide whether or not to abandon the JVCs I have really enjoyed for so many years in favor of SONY, which seems to have much better customer service, not to mention a 3 yr warranty. Suggestions, anyone?
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post #1928 of 2015
10/25/11 at 5:38am
Wow kinda makes me nervous I have a 350 was a floor sample but with full warranty. Had since august so far with almost 300 hrs on new bulb works perfect hope this issue never develops has it been a major issue only saw a couple of reports on it so far. I hope they come around for you. definately not something normal and should be backed up by jvc. So far my dealings with JVC have bee not good as far as customer service issues go. Thet is the one major issue where Epson blows JVC away.
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post #1929 of 2015
10/25/11 at 6:37am
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Just wanted to report that I had a bad pink stripe experience similar to Guiness77's. I sent my RS10 in at 2 yrs, 9 months, 1600 hours, after seeing the pink stripe that grew over time. They quoted me ~$2,800 for an optical block. After several unpleasant weeks of trying to talk to the right people at JVC, they did agree to take 1/2 off. But I still felt it wasn't worth it, so I had them send it back, unfixed. I had to pay $50 diagnostic, plus the $80 to ship it there in the first place (but they did pay for shipping back). I plan on buying a new PJ soon, but am still holding out hope JVC will step up and recall/replace these apparently defective optical blocks before their PJ reputation suffers badly.

Now I am trying to decide whether or not to abandon the JVCs I have really enjoyed for so many years in favor of SONY, which seems to have much better customer service, not to mention a 3 yr warranty. Suggestions, anyone?

I am waiting to see about the RS45, though I just do not know if I want another JVC. I am waiting to see if/when the new Epson 61000 comes out with reflective lcd panels. Who knows, time will tell.
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post #1930 of 2015
10/25/11 at 12:07pm
I've certainly seen various reports of optical block issues over the years on JVC's here on AVS, but it's hard to quantify actual #'s.

It's enough of an issue to make me nervous considering how random it may be and how you are essentially screwed if it happens after the warranty is out.
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post #1931 of 2015
10/25/11 at 1:30pm
Anyone looking to sell their RS10/HD350 with a new or relatively low hour lamp?
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post #1932 of 2015
10/25/11 at 5:22pm
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Anyone looking to sell their RS10/HD350 with a new or relatively low hour lamp?

I am planning to sell mine in a few weeks (after I get my new JVC). I only recently bought a new lamp. It also has an extended warranty.

Please pm me if you are interested.
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post #1933 of 2015
10/26/11 at 6:40am
Is anyone here using an RS10/HD350 with an older Prismasonic lens like the H1200R or H1400,etc.?
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post #1934 of 2015
10/27/11 at 3:41pm
I'm getting started with calibrating my projector using a i1D2 meter and the HCFR software. I understand how most of the settings work but the gamma is still a bit of a problem. There are 4 options you can tweak adjusting the curve on different point with White, Red, Green and Blue. How do these 4 settings affect the image and how can you measure and adjust them?
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post #1935 of 2015
10/28/11 at 12:41am
I've got some weird problem with the lamp power control on my RS10. I recently changed it to normal but now it is grayed out and I can't put it on high again. Does anybody know what the problem might be? The link to the manual on the JVC site doesn't work for me atm so sorry for the stupid question
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post #1936 of 2015
10/28/11 at 12:51am
It will usually remain greyed out for about 5 minutes after changing, so you just have to wait. If it's not allowing you to change after this time then maybe a fault.
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post #1937 of 2015
10/28/11 at 1:01am
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Originally Posted by Kelvin1965S View Post

It will usually remain greyed out for about 5 minutes after changing, so you just have to wait. If it's not allowing you to change after this time then maybe a fault.

thanks, that did the trick!
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post #1938 of 2015
10/28/11 at 1:19am
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I've got some weird problem with the lamp power control on my RS10. I recently changed it to normal but now it is grayed out and I can't put it on high again. Does anybody know what the problem might be? The link to the manual on the JVC site doesn't work for me atm so sorry for the stupid question

Wait 90 seconds and it should be enabled again. It's a safety feature for bulb life.
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post #1939 of 2015
10/28/11 at 5:24am
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Is anyone here using an RS10/HD350 with an older Prismasonic lens like the H1200R or H1400,etc.?

Anybody???
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post #1940 of 2015
12/29/11 at 4:45pm
I am considering a used HD350. Are there any major issues/problems with this PJ that you can make me aware of?....Thks
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post #1941 of 2015
12/29/11 at 5:24pm
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Originally Posted by mariokrt64 View Post

I am considering a used HD350. Are there any major issues/problems with this PJ that you can make me aware of?....Thks

Mine has worked flawlessly for almost three years and, going by this thread, not much drama for others.
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post #1942 of 2015
12/29/11 at 5:30pm
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I am considering a used HD350. Are there any major issues/problems with this PJ that you can make me aware of?....Thks

Just the color saturation issues that aren't correctable through controls provided by the projector. Some people don't care. Others end up getting a Lumagen or some-such... a great addition to your HT equipment inventory.
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post #1943 of 2015
12/29/11 at 7:13pm
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Originally Posted by GoCaboNow View Post

Mine has worked flawlessly for almost three years and, going by this thread, not much drama for others.

Thanks....BTW, saw your theater thread...great setup and room you have...have to get your design for that....

erkq...Is the saturation that bad to afect the IQ....in a significant way...
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post #1944 of 2015
12/29/11 at 7:39pm
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Thanks....BTW, saw your theater thread...great setup and room you have...have to get your design for that....

erkq...Is the saturation that bad to afect the IQ....in a significant way...

It all depends on the viewer. Some are OK with work-arounds like turning the color control down 5 points. Others don't even need to do that. Apparently this is better than the RS1 was... or just different. My RS1 drove me crazy with neon greens. In a movie like Things we Lost in the Fire, it was unwatchable for me. I got an 750 to make me happy. But all-in-all, the 350 is a great, reliable projector.
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post #1945 of 2015
12/29/11 at 7:43pm
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But all-in-all, the 350 is a great, reliable projector.

Agreed. It will outperform most people's rooms if set-up correctly,
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post #1946 of 2015
12/29/11 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by erkq View Post

It all depends on the viewer. Some are OK with work-arounds like turning the color control down 5 points. Others don't even need to do that. Apparently this is better than the RS1 was... or just different. My RS1 drove me crazy with neon greens. In a movie like Things we Lost in the Fire, it was unwatchable for me. I got an 750 to make me happy. But all-in-all, the 350 is a great, reliable projector.

On that matter, I used to have a Mitsu RPTV that had a "red push" that drove me crazy as well. In those days an "attenuator" on the red component input did the trick...Hope that the HD350 is not that bad in that regard....

thks for your valuable input...I own a Mitsu HC6800, but new to JVC...hopefully a significant upgrade...
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post #1947 of 2015
1/2/12 at 9:03am
My 31 month old HD350 has developed the red band on the left side of the screen. Has anyone had any luck getting this repaired out of warranty?

Ive searched and it looks like a couple of others have had this problem.

Really bummed.
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post #1948 of 2015
1/2/12 at 2:47pm
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Originally Posted by noysboy View Post

My 31 month old HD350 has developed the red band on the left side of the screen. Has anyone had any luck getting this repaired out of warranty?

Ive searched and it looks like a couple of others have had this problem.

Really bummed.

This is not what you want to hear but that would most likely require the replacement of the optical block. And the price to replace it mostly equals or exceeds the blue book of this projector used.

Mine was replaced under warranty.
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post #1949 of 2015
1/4/12 at 4:00pm
I've also had the "pink / purple stripe" (left side) for about six months now, exactly matching other forum members descriptions.

Since I bought my RS10 used from a fellow local forum member (hi robobob - hope you're doing well!), and it would be well out of warranty even if I was the original owner (and with original receipt), I'm assuming I would be charged the full (stiff) repair fee if I sent it to JVC service.



Rather than going through the cost and hassle of shipping to a JVC service center (and being without a projector for weeks or more), I'll probably just buy a new or another used (definitely not JVC) projector. The RS10 has been a nice projector for me (and the family), and I wish that it had been more reliable or cheaper / easier to fix.

Cliff
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post #1950 of 2015
1/4/12 at 4:31pm
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Rather than going through the cost and hassle of shipping to a JVC service center (and being without a projector for weeks or more), I'll probably just buy a new or another used (definitely not JVC) projector. The RS10 has been a nice projector for me (and the family), and I wish that it had been more reliable or cheaper / easier to fix.

Agree 100%

I love the image quality, but being one of the unlucky, I will never buy another JVC or recommend a JVC projector to anyone else.
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