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Remodeling and need advice

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
I've been lurking on these forums for a while, and recently decided to take the plunge and remodel my basement into a games/movie area.

I'm still working on a well-proportioned SketchUp diagram, and I've attached an early version.

We're working in the roughly 16'x19' room on the right of the floorplan. In this area, we'll have 2 projectors at 90deg from each other. The primary projector will face the wall w/ a 108-120" static screen, and the other projector will face a motorized 100" drop-down screen in front of the fireplace.

I'm matching both projectors with 5.1 surround - Pheonix Gold 6.5" in-ceiling speakers + powered sub. (Generally, only one will be used at a time.)

This 'entertainment' area will have a dry-wall ceiling. The remainder of the floorplan will have 2x2 drop-tiles.

I'm running HDMI + Component to each projector. Now, for the question of the day:

Is there a special type of cable I should use for these runs? At present I have a 50' component cable and a 25' component cable (and matching HDMI cables) that I've been using. Are these appropriate to use in-wall (or in-ceiling)? Or do I need special cabling/ends/crimpers?


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post #2 of 10
Ok. Since no one has responded to your question, I will try. Yes, you can run both types of cable through the walls or ceiling. But why would you run both, why would you set up your room this way, and why would you install two projectors?
post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the post. Let me see if I can answer your questions...

When you say I can run both types of cables, do you mean "HDMI and Component"? I realize that running both is no problem. My question is in regards to what type of cables I can run through the walls: e.g. Are 'standard' component cables acceptable, or do I need to run a special type of in-wall cable?

I'm intending to run both HDMI and Component for a few reasons. First, not all A/V receivers will allow you to have a component input and HDMI output. Also, not all A/V sources have HDMI output. And HDMI can bind you with HDCP, so not all hardware will even function with it. From what I understand, Component will work up to 1080i without problem, and my projectors (and nearly all projector's I'd pay for) are only 720p. Lastly, I want to have all options covered so that I don't have to worry about going back later and 'retrofitting'.

As to why I'm installing 2 projectors... My wife wants it that way.

Seriously.

Right now, we have a projector and a 56" TV in the same room so we can play games at the same time (or one games while the other's watching TV). Also, it's great for setting up 8-player Halo matches!

You asked why I would set the room up this way.. I assume you mean w/ 2 projectors and 2 5.1 sound systems. I explained the projectors above; each of the sound systems would be attached to a projector. We have 2 XB360's, a PS3, a Mythtv Frontend, and Wii. The primary A/V (Projector/speakers) will have most of the hardware on it, and we'll use it for BluRay as well as some TV and gaming. The secondary A/V will have "my" XB360, the Wii, and probably a Mythtv Frontend. So, both A/V systems will need sound systems.

Thanks again for the help
post #4 of 10
LOL

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post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 
Yeah, I realize it seems like overkill, but it's working for us so far. This is definitely a general 'Media/Game Room'. The bar will be in the other half of the basement (the left in the diagram).

Also, the middle area (walled in, behind the bifold doors) will have the furnace and washing/drying machines. So, I expect I'm going to need to work on some sound-proofing.
post #6 of 10
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Just updated the original post w/ a newer SketchUp. We're thinking of going with two-tone yellow/orange for the most part, with a darker red in the Media area.

The YellowZone will have 2'x2' white drop-ceiling tiles at about 8', but the RedZone will have drywalled ceilings at about 7'. All the trim will be oak, I'm hoping we can find a shade that will look good with the yellow as well as the red.
post #7 of 10
To run cables in the wall you need CL2 rated cables. I would run multiple HDMI cables and several component cables (or perhaps just an extra line or two for a total of four or five wires) just in case one goes bad (it happens!).

Now, will both projectors be running at the same time? If so you will be shining one image "through" the other. I have no idea what that will do to the image, maybe none, but I would check it out first.
post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 
I expect we'll use both projectors at the same time, my main concern is the amount of light generated. I can control the lighting in the basement, so normal movie watching will be fine. tonight, I'm going to try running both projectors at the same time and see what the effect is. I've run a 56" DLP TV and a projector at the same time... The only problems we had were when one of us had a completely white screen (thus, too much light in the room)
post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 
hmm.. Now to find out whether my cables are CL2. I'd seen that spec, but didn't know whether it'd apply to a limited-area run of cables. (Yeah, I figured it would, but had hoped to skirt it.)
post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 
I posted the results of the "Perpendicular Projector Beams" test in my construction thread at: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1106599
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