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post #1081 of 1429
Hi,

I'm new to mediaportal, and I find it is a really cool media center.
I've some problem with blu-ray ISO images. I added all blu-ray ISOs to my movie collection, and I configured MP to mount it via VCD and then windows 7 starts PowerDVD 9 automtically. The configuration works fine, however everytime when an ISO is mounted, MP tries to play it with its internal player. Is there anyway to tell MP not to use its internal player for BD iso? Thanks a lot!
post #1082 of 1429
Just started using M-Portal .

All runs well as a standard , non fiddled with setup.

But add Streamed MP and it all goes wobbly.

Streamed MP says during setup that latest M-port appears out of date , and some features may not work. ?.

Streamed MP Scans and finds all the movies data for the menus ok .

Then when all installed, Media Portal just craps out
just as the M-Portal home menu screen appeara , & gives the standard Xp type crash box. send report to MS etc etc .

Anyone else had this , i'm not sure where to look as the error report just refers to mediaportal.exe.. and some adress locations.

Not much to go on but any clues ?

C.
post #1083 of 1429
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Originally Posted by ceedy44 View Post

Just started using M-Portal .

All runs well as a standard , non fiddled with setup.

But add Streamed MP and it all goes wobbly.

Streamed MP says during setup that latest M-port appears out of date , and some features may not work. ?.

Streamed MP Scans and finds all the movies data for the menus ok .

Then when all installed, Media Portal just craps out
just as the M-Portal home menu screen appeara , & gives the standard Xp type crash box. send report to MS etc etc .

Anyone else had this , i'm not sure where to look as the error report just refers to mediaportal.exe.. and some adress locations.

Not much to go on but any clues ?

C.

What version of MediaPortal, what version of StreamedMP? I'm using MP 1.1 version 1.0.4.23491 and StreamedMP version 1.0.2.1048 and have no issues at all.
post #1084 of 1429
How does everyone handle Blu-rays vs DVD? Do you have a separate function on the main screen for each? I'm thinking it would be best just to group them together under "Watch Movies". I'll be using the built in player since I rip to m2ts. Moving pictures will allow you to watch multiple folders, correct? I plan to keep BD rps and DVD rips separate since my daughter will watch her DVD movies on a PC not capable of BD playback.

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Originally Posted by daMaster View Post

Nice! I have to find time to update my HTPC to Win7 and MP RC1. I'll update the guide as well once I get around to doing the upgrades.

Any chance you have been able to upgrade your HTPC yet?

I just bought some new parts for an upgrade and will be installing Win 7. Should I go 32 bit or 64 bit? All the filters/codecs in your guide seem to support 64 bit now.
post #1085 of 1429
For blu-ray, moving pictures will try to play the largest m2ts file by using default player. I use external powerDVD though.
post #1086 of 1429
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Originally Posted by somy View Post

For blu-ray, moving pictures will try to play the largest m2ts file by using default player. I use external powerDVD though.

That is fine, I rip the main movie and audio only anyway.
post #1087 of 1429
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Originally Posted by In2Photos View Post

That is fine, I rip the main movie and audio only anyway.

Be aware MP doesn't do audio switch for HD audio tracks.
post #1088 of 1429
This is from another thread i am in, but i thoguh i would post here since the question concerns MP.

Quote:


used Megui last night. Everything went great. Final size is not much smaller than VOB file but it is smaller and i used 1500 kbit/sec bitrate which is substabtial accordingto some. I have a question about the auto encode feature. What kind of quality do you get out of that and can you tweak it. Also, i posted an article about watching h.264 files using gpu acceleration and Nvidia cards specifically.

http://imouto.my/watching-h264-video...hitecture-cuda

At the end of the article, the writer showed how the fly by scene in PLanet earth was easily handled by nvidia GPU but ATI could not perform in the same way. Since MP 1.1RC has MCP-HC natively installed, do you think i could make the changes that the article suggest and take advantage OF COREAVC 2's ability to outperform ATI in playback. The only hiccup is that i have heard that people are having driver issues with Win 7 64 bit.
post #1089 of 1429
The guide says we should always install mediaportal to default location, is there anyway to install it to D drive instead?
My C drive is only reserved for Windows, so it doesn't have enough space for MP databases, images......
Thanks!
post #1090 of 1429
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Originally Posted by somy View Post

Be aware MP doesn't do audio switch for HD audio tracks.

What do you mean by "audio switch"?
post #1091 of 1429
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Originally Posted by In2Photos View Post

What do you mean by "audio switch"?

You cannot switch audio track from LPCM to TrueHD when using MPC splitter. It's confirmed by someone in MP forum.
post #1092 of 1429
Anybody have a good way to get EPG in the US for OTA? I have not found a dumbed down enough tutorial for me to understand...windows 7 ultimate.
You think there would be an easy way by using media centers or something.

PS i am looking for free or a 1 time fee of like $20 if it works really well.
post #1093 of 1429
There is a schedules direct plugin for MP. I am using 4tr for recording though, it also has a schedules direct interface.

Goto the MP forums and search for schedules direct in the plugins section. It is pretty easy to configure and get going. I will caution you though that the first time you import the data it can take a couple of hours for the data to show in the guide.
post #1094 of 1429
I'd be concerned whether bighick is looking for a dumbed down tutorial for MP or his Win-7 Ultimate? Additionally, he wants a $20 flat-rate schedule guide while SD is $20/annually. I will say that if you want a dumbed-down EPG, using SD and PayPal once a year you can't question the stability!
post #1095 of 1429
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Originally Posted by brianley View Post

What version of MediaPortal, what version of StreamedMP? I'm using MP 1.1 version 1.0.4.23491 and StreamedMP version 1.0.2.1048 and have no issues at all.


brian were did you get the 1.0.2.1048 version from as i cant find that one thanks,want to go back to media portal as i think mediabrowser is getting a little sluggish
post #1096 of 1429
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Originally Posted by homesy68 View Post

brian were did you get the 1.0.2.1048 version from as i cant find that one thanks,want to go back to media portal as i think mediabrowser is getting a little sluggish

Actually I've upgraded (again) since that posting. I'm now at MediaPortal version 1.0.5.25080 and Moving Pictures version 1.0.4.1070

Generally I get Moving Pictures either from the beta link on Media Portal forums (http://forum.team-mediaportal.com/mo...ailable-74046/)

Or from the google code page (http://code.google.com/p/moving-pictures/) however that site is still showing the 0.75 stable version.

I think the MediaPortal 1.1 RC version has a compatible version of Moving pictures in it as well.
post #1097 of 1429
anyone having problems with their movies not showing the picture? After the upgrading to the latest versions of both MP and StreamedMP, I can hear the sound but there is no picture shown on the screen. However, when I try and watch movie trailers, it's all good. I didn't change a setting from page one so I don't know what is happening. If anyone has any idea, please help. thanks a lot.
post #1098 of 1429
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Originally Posted by olwe View Post

anyone having problems with their movies not showing the picture? After the upgrading to the latest versions of both MP and StreamedMP, I can hear the sound but there is no picture shown on the screen. However, when I try and watch movie trailers, it's all good. I didn't change a setting from page one so I don't know what is happening. If anyone has any idea, please help. thanks a lot.

What codecs are configured under Configuration / Codecs and Renderer? What are the setting on the Video Renderer tab in the same section?
post #1099 of 1429
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by olwe View Post

anyone having problems with their movies not showing the picture? After the upgrading to the latest versions of both MP and StreamedMP, I can hear the sound but there is no picture shown on the screen. However, when I try and watch movie trailers, it's all good. I didn't change a setting from page one so I don't know what is happening. If anyone has any idea, please help. thanks a lot.

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Originally Posted by brianley View Post

What codecs are configured under Configuration / Codecs and Renderer? What are the setting on the Video Renderer tab in the same section?

olwe: we need more info as requested by brianley. Also, have you tried to run GraphEdit or GraphStudio to connect to the MediaPortal graph (connect to remote graph) and check which codecs MediaPortal is actually using to play the file?
post #1100 of 1429
MPEG-2 video decoder: ffdshow Video Decoder
H.264 video decoder: MPC - Video decoder

Video Renederer: EVR

These are the setting I have for the new version of MP and StreamedMP. I believe they are the same ones I used before the updates as I followed the guide on page 1.
post #1101 of 1429
Hello AVS community,

First post on AVS; I just installed MP w/ Streamed MP and I have a question or two.

I followed the guide per say, but took some liberties with the suggested files for download. Seeing as the guide was written some time ago, I took my time researching to see what the most current solutions the community was using.

Currently I am using: (sorry no refernce link's i've not posted enough)
Haali Splitter (aka MatroskaSplitter.exe)
ffdshow Tryout (Beta 7:3154); as the original had not been updated since May 06 (based from what I read)
MPC-HomeCinema x64; purely for 64bit compatibility.
Power DVD 10 for player
MP v1.1 RC-1; again for 64bit compatibility
StreamedMP v1.0.1.11.333; I could not find anything newer despite post of newer version, huh.

Ok to the questions ,

1) Should I be using different players for different file types for best playback and up-scaling of my video files?

Follow-Up; What is the best way to upscale Xvid and DivX .avi's, to get the best quality out of them? I don't have much HD content yet, and I just assumed that I would be using Power DVD 10 to play that content (maybe, maybe not) but I would also like to upscale my current content which is mainly lower quality Xvid and DivX .avi's, mkv's here and there.

2) Does Power DVD actually use the designated codecs per MP's Configuration Menu? If No what specifically does the "Codecs and Renderer" setting effect/control?

Follow-Up; What is the significance of choosing/assigning specific Codes/Decoders/Filters/Renderers? How do I take advantage of said significance's (players, settings, file quality)???

Tech Questions in conjunction with MP,

1) I have 2x ATI 4850 HD's in crossfire, should I be looking into installing any drivers that would actually assist in my HD Audio/Video playback? i.e. Avivo, Crossfire App, HD Audio Drivers.

2) How in the heck do I get HD Audio out of my Video Card's HDMI? Until my other 25ft HDMI cable arrives, I'm stuck testing MP on my Samsung 2253BW 22" LDC.

Well I really hope I didn't over do it on my first post, thanks in advance for any help, time, and consideration, I look forward to being apart of this community .
post #1102 of 1429
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eternal7331 View Post

Hello AVS community,

First post on AVS; I just installed MP w/ Streamed MP and I have a question or two.

I followed the guide per say, but took some liberties with the suggested files for download. Seeing as the guide was written some time ago, I took my time researching to see what the most current solutions the community was using.

Currently I am using: (sorry no refernce link's i've not posted enough)
Haali Splitter (aka MatroskaSplitter.exe)
ffdshow Tryout (Beta 7:3154); as the original had not been updated since May 06 (based from what I read)
MPC-HomeCinema x64; purely for 64bit compatibility.
Power DVD 10 for player
MP v1.1 RC-1; again for 64bit compatibility
StreamedMP v1.0.1.11.333; I could not find anything newer despite post of newer version, huh.

Ok to the questions ,

1) Should I be using different players for different file types for best playback and up-scaling of my video files?

Follow-Up; What is the best way to upscale Xvid and DivX .avi's, to get the best quality out of them? I don't have much HD content yet, and I just assumed that I would be using Power DVD 10 to play that content (maybe, maybe not) but I would also like to upscale my current content which is mainly lower quality Xvid and DivX .avi's, mkv's here and there.

2) Does Power DVD actually use the designated codecs per MP's Configuration Menu? If No what specifically does the "Codecs and Renderer" setting effect/control?

Follow-Up; What is the significance of choosing/assigning specific Codes/Decoders/Filters/Renderers? How do I take advantage of said significance's (players, settings, file quality)???

Tech Questions in conjunction with MP,

1) I have 2x ATI 4850 HD's in crossfire, should I be looking into installing any drivers that would actually assist in my HD Audio/Video playback? i.e. Avivo, Crossfire App, HD Audio Drivers.

2) How in the heck do I get HD Audio out of my Video Card's HDMI? Until my other 25ft HDMI cable arrives, I'm stuck testing MP on my Samsung 2253BW 22" LDC.

Well I really hope I didn't over do it on my first post, thanks in advance for any help, time, and consideration, I look forward to being apart of this community .


1) The internal player will give good results for most all file formats. Really comes down to how much experimenting you want to do. While MP can launch an external player (some use Power DVD or ArcSoft when playing Blu-Rays) this can add to the complexity (getting the remote to work right etc). For upscaling your non HD files, check out the FFDShow thread - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1172653 You can add post processing to the internal player via config / Videos / video Post Processing.

2) If you launch PowerDVD as a separate player, no. Those settings are only for MP's internal player, assuming that you have a PowerDVD codec selected in the Codecs and Renderer screen

Follow up question - Many people use MPC - video decoder for H.264 codec because is supports hardware offload (DXVA). Also the use of Reclock Audio renderer can help with getting more fluid playback, including 24P frame rate on hardware that can support it.

Tech questions:

1) MP will use whatever is passed to it - if you need to install those drivers to get HD audio, then yes. Can't really provide any more input here, haven't used the new ATI cards, but there are plenty of threads on them that can probably answer your questions.

2) Probably again a question for the ATI threads, but if the TV only supports 2 channel audio, it reports that over the HDMI link and the PC responds accordingly. HDMI will only send what the device can support.
post #1103 of 1429
You need to load the ATi HDMI audio driver to get any sound through and (as I understand) you'll only get 2-ch stereo unless you use PowerDVD or some other player to pass 8-ch audio.
post #1104 of 1429
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Originally Posted by brianley View Post

1) The internal player will give good results for most all file formats.

I how do I get MP to play using the internal player again? I have tried to uncheck external player in the video and DVD config menu's but it still opens Power DVD 10.

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Originally Posted by brianley View Post

For upscaling your non HD files, check out the FFDShow thread - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1172653 You can add post processing to the internal player via config / Videos / video Post Processing.

Thank you so much for this upscaling link, I am definitely going to play around in there for awhile. It all sounds very interesting, and i'm excited to see what results it will yield.

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Originally Posted by brianley View Post

Follow up question - Many people use MPC - video decoder for H.264 codec because is supports hardware offload (DXVA). Also the use of Reclock Audio renderer can help with getting more fluid playback, including 24P frame rate on hardware that can support it.

MPC - Video decoder is not an option in my MP config menu? With that being said do these improvments (MPC-VD and Reclock) only go into account when using the MP internal player? Is there a way to take advantage of decoders and Renderer outside of MP?

Thanks you very much for your direction and incite, this is all very exciting stuff to learn about (Geek at heart).
post #1105 of 1429
The external player may be opening due to the OS using AutoPlay when DaemonTools mounts the .iso Configure AutoPlay to do nothing on DVD and Enhanced DVD
post #1106 of 1429
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Originally Posted by Eternal7331 View Post

MPC - Video decoder is not an option in my MP config menu? With that being said do these improvments (MPC-VD and Reclock) only go into account when using the MP internal player? Is there a way to take advantage of decoders and Renderer outside of MP?

Thanks you very much for your direction and incite, this is all very exciting stuff to learn about (Geek at heart).

You have to register the stand alone filter from MPC-HC (which is a decent player in its own right, you may want to check it out as well) http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpc-hc/files/

Go back to the 1st post in this thread and re-read 2. Install recommended decoders. It guides you through registering the codec. After that you'll be able to select it in Media Portal configuration.

As far as taking advantage of the decoders outside of Media Portal, yes you can. Reclock can be configured to be the default renderer and MPC-HC player will use its codec - I think other players like Zoom and VLC can be configured to use them as well. But MPC-HC is an excellent player on its own, and will handle most any file format with little configuration. You should give it a try as well.
post #1107 of 1429
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eternal7331 View Post

MPC - Video decoder is not an option in my MP config menu? With that being said do these improvments (MPC-VD and Reclock) only go into account when using the MP internal player? Is there a way to take advantage of decoders and Renderer outside of MP?

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Originally Posted by brianley View Post

You have to register the stand alone filter from MPC-HC (which is a decent player in its own right, you may want to check it out as well) http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpc-hc/files/

Go back to the 1st post in this thread and re-read 2. Install recommended decoders. It guides you through registering the codec. After that you'll be able to select it in Media Portal configuration.

Yes, you have to register the stand-alone codec. And you absolutely need to get the 32-bit version of the stand-alone MPC Video Decoder codec because MediaPortal is a 32-bit process. This is regardless of the fact that you have a 64-bit OS.

The guide explains how to get the stand-alone MPC Video Decoder and how to register it. Once you do that it will show up in your MediaPortal Configuration.

In fact you can get the latest version of the stand-alone filters from this site: http://www.xvidvideo.ru. Just look at all the releases on the right-hand side and follow the links through the Russian text.
post #1108 of 1429
When I try to play a mkv or divx or a dvd, MP complains about missing audio codec, even though I have latest ffdshow (both 64 and 32 bit) installed and configured to pass lpcm. These codecs behave properly when used with MPClassic

In MPortal setting, I did choose ffdshow audio decoder and did allow reclock to load as default audio renderer. I have ATI4850 hooked up via hdmi to my receiver

Please suggest corrective action

Sonisame
post #1109 of 1429
For me that would occur if I tried to use Haali as a splitter. I am using the MPC-hc splitter by gabest and now I don't have those issues.
post #1110 of 1429
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Originally Posted by Mark Guebert View Post

For me that would occur if I tried to use Haali as a splitter. I am using the MPC-hc splitter by gabest and now I don't have those issues.

Thanks, using gabest spiltter, things are back to normal

Sonisame
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