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post #31 of 138
So, it sounds like the Blu-Ray version is not "perfect" because of the noisy grain... I received my copy already from Amazon (BD), but I am going to send it back.. This is unacceptable. If it is not 100% perfect I will pass and will just stick with upconverted DVD on my Apex upconverter on my 13" Goldstar CRT (using Monster composite cables)....

Just kidding.. This looks amazing. Another home run by Disney. As soon as I am done watching Band of Brothers on Blu, I am watching this (and I gotta squeeze TDK in there).
post #32 of 138
Thanks Cinema Squid. It looked a bit worse on my tv than that, but admittedly I'm not entirely sure what the cause was. It was sooooo minimal, in the grand scheme of the movie, it didn't bother me in the slightest, just something I took note of since I wanted to rate it for the PQ thread.
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Here's an example shot where the grain get a little splotchy and blocked up in places if this is what you were referring to geekyglassesgirl:

It would be nice to see the DVD version of that same shot.
post #34 of 138
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Originally Posted by Xylon View Post

I can see some minor arti . . . . . . ahh f*** it. Reference PQ and AQ. Film grain visible throughout the movie. A very satisfactory HT viewing experience.

That is all. Enjoy the pix

My impressions as well...I thought this was a near reference presentation. I'm glad to see a comparison thread on this one as I recall somebody questioned whether they had seen banding on this title and I couldn't spot any on my setup.

Brandon
post #35 of 138
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My impressions as well...I thought this was a near reference presentation. I'm glad to see a comparison thread on this one as I recall somebody questioned whether they had seen banding on this title and I couldn't spot any on my setup.

Brandon

Not to mention the movie is freaking awesome. I expected this to be a dud based on the word of mouth but they knocked it out of the park.

I really enjoyed the behind the scenes stuff as well.
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I miss the force fields.. It makes me feel like the actors are protected..

I think there are some force fields at work on that young cutie laying down! (Ok, I just had to get that off of my reptile brain, and now I can be done with it)
post #40 of 138
I am beginning to suspect that Xylon may be keen on Susan.
post #41 of 138
Ya think? (she is very attractive, though)
post #42 of 138
Fine detail with no EE, ringing, or pasty textures. This is how HD is done and you don't need "8k UltraDigital HD" hype to see it.
post #43 of 138
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Ya think? (she is very attractive, though)

Ya this is a fine looking young woman. She won't be in the 3rd film (at start yes, but not in the Narnia Part) witch is due in 2010 but they'll be all back in the forth one in 2013. I think they'll wait it out because they want them to be older..
post #44 of 138
that chick is going to be so fly when she gets older.
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Originally Posted by ryoohki View Post

Ya this is a fine looking young woman. She won't be in the 3rd film (at start yes, but not in the Narnia Part) witch is due in 2010 but they'll be all back in the forth one in 2013. I think they'll wait it out because they want them to be older..

Who knows if there will be a 4th one. Prince Caspian underperformed, and they've only committed to the first three so far, so we'll have to see what happens.
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YUMMY! Hey! She's almost 20.
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I miss the force fields.. It makes me feel like the actors are protected..

LMAO!!

Nice screens, as always Xylophone my man! This is exactly why we got into HDM. Well, 1/2 the reason. The sound on this disc is through the roof as well!!
post #48 of 138
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A natural "film like look" on a transfer? No way! Where is the pasty look? Smearing? Force fields? Did the DNR and EE machine break? tsk, tsk

I can see some minor arti . . . . . . ahh f*** it. Reference PQ and AQ. Film grain visible throughout the movie. A very satisfactory HT viewing experience.

That is all. Enjoy the pix



very nice

I also think it's reference all the way. razor sharp and as clean as a transfer I've seen from a non animated release. disney and universal have done the greatest work lately. oh, and susan has blossomed beautifully.
post #49 of 138
Yes, Anna Popplewell is teh hawtness!! Those lips simply cannot be ignored.

But if I ever declare the same about Georgie Henley you may have to call the cops on me.
post #50 of 138
This release is what everyone else should strive to be like.
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I also think it's reference all the way. razor sharp and as clean as a transfer I've seen from a non animated release. disney and universal have done the greatest work lately. oh, and susan has blossomed beautifully.

Before or after they raped "The Thing" with DNR?
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Wow (as mentioned previously) - the difference in the stairs is almost unbelievable. The BD image is vastly superior. Truly night and day.
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That [the stairs] almost defies belief! Does it really make sense that the dvd would not be able to render the stairs, altogether? Granted, not as sharply as in hd rez, but gone altogether? What happens if you just downscale the br image to 480p? Do the stairs disappear?


LL
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Originally Posted by Mr. Hanky View Post

That [the stairs] almost defies belief! Does it really make sense that the dvd would not be able to render the stairs, altogether? Granted, not as sharply as in hd rez, but gone altogether? What happens if you just downscale the br image to 480p? Do the stairs disappear?

You can see the stairs if you downsample it in photoshop. I guess they were using some really soft algorithm, or intentionally blurred it...
post #55 of 138
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Originally Posted by Mr. Hanky View Post

That [the stairs] almost defies belief! Does it really make sense that the dvd would not be able to render the stairs, altogether? Granted, not as sharply as in hd rez, but gone altogether? What happens if you just downscale the br image to 480p? Do the stairs disappear?


Is there any real science to doing that? Is that really legit copying a still image, down rezzing it and then comparing it to a 480i/p cap from a moving picture? I am no expert and don't fully understand all scaling and such, but in my mind there just doesn't seem something right about doing that and making that claim.
post #56 of 138
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Originally Posted by ryoohki View Post

Ya this is a fine looking young woman. She won't be in the 3rd film (at start yes, but not in the Narnia Part) witch is due in 2010 but they'll be all back in the forth one in 2013. I think they'll wait it out because they want them to be older..

You lost me. Are they skipping The Silver Chair and going straight to The Last Battle after Dawn Treader?

Because none of the Pevensies are in The Silver Chair, it's just Eustace and the girl from his school.

Reminds me of something irritating. My wife was in nthe library at our kids school, and they have renumbered the Narnia books in current printings so they are presented chronologically, TMN, TLTWTW, AHaHB, PC, VoDT, SC, TLB. F'ing revisionists. They were written to be presented the other way by the author.
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Is there any real science to doing that? Is that really legit copying a still image, down rezzing it and then comparing it to a 480i/p cap from a moving picture?

It's not so far removed from any other way they would come up with a dvd version of the movie (it's not like an sd version drops out of thin air). At the very least, it gives us a ballpark estimate of what should have been achievable. If they fall far short of that, I would have to suspect "something" went wrong.

I fully grant, that there will be some here who remain unconvinced of such methods. Please do move along past my posts, if uninterested.
post #58 of 138
Here is one I did at an astounding "320p", in order to duplicate the blurring of the stairsteps. It really makes me wonder if this could be another instance where the dvd was low-balled (not that I am in great protest- it's just unsportsmanlike practice, in principle).

(By low-balled, I'm not implying Xylon lowballed. I'm premising the studio low-balled.)

To be clear, I am not railing against anything, per se. I'm just exploring this little detail that has captivated my curiosity for the moment. It just seems weird that if they knew how to make a br with such enviable pq, getting the best out of dvd should have been a no-brainer, I would think...


LL
post #59 of 138
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Originally Posted by Hughmc View Post

Is there any real science to doing that? Is that really legit copying a still image, down rezzing it and then comparing it to a 480i/p cap from a moving picture? I am no expert and don't fully understand all scaling and such, but in my mind there just doesn't seem something right about doing that and making that claim.

There is no real reason a DVD shouldn't look at least as good as a 480p downscale of a blu-ray. But personally I hate DVD so the worse they bungle them, the better, master them from a VHS tape for all I care
post #60 of 138
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Originally Posted by Neo_Reloaded View Post

Who knows if there will be a 4th one. Prince Caspian underperformed, and they've only committed to the first three so far, so we'll have to see what happens.

The director (new one) sign for 3 and 4. Whenever they'll do a 4 nobody knows but he have a contract.
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