Sony VPL-HS10 and PS3 Blueray do not impress me.

when the bluray starts playing are you seeing 1080p/24 on the bottom corner or somewhere on the screen? if you are, then you should see a HUGE difference. are you SURE you are connected with the HDMI? i have a very hard time believing you see no difference from 720p to 1080p. it is dramatic especially at 120"

i just looked at your specs. and the reason you see no difference is that your projector is only 720P/1080i
you can not get full 1080p from that projecto so of course you will not see any difference. the projector is downgrading your 1080p input signal to 1080i or 720p. hence the lack of visual difference.

your ps3 is upconverting your regular dvd's to 720p so that's why.

basically, you need a better projector that DOES 1080p natively 1920x1080 to see high definition at 1080p. so go list your projector on ebay or wherever and upgrade to a better projector if you want to take full advantage of what bluray has to offer. you will NOT be disappointed my friend.

I went from a mitsubishi HD1000U 720p to a Benq W9000 1080p and i was blow away ....also at 120"


btw...remember that at 1080i you are really only seeing 1/2 of the lines of resolution at one time, so you are better to keep your settings at 720P...

Sony VPL-HS10 Cineza Projector
Compatibility:
HDTV: 720p, 1080i
EDTV/480p: Yes
SDTV/480i: Yes
Component Video: Yes
Video: Yes
Digital Input: DVI-D
Computers: Yes
Display: Type:
2.2 cm 3LCD
Native: 1366x768 Pixels
Maximum: 1152x870 Pixels
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (WXGA)

BenQ W9000 Projector

Compatibility:
HDTV: 720p, 1080i, 1080p/24
576i, 576p
EDTV/480p: Yes
SDTV/480i: Yes
Component Video: Yes
Video: Yes
Digital Input: HDMI (HDCP)
Computers: Yes
Display: Type:
2.4 cm DLP (1)
Color Wheel Segs: **
Color Wheel Speed: **
Native: 1920x1080 Pixels
Maximum: 1920x1080 Pixels
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (HD)

Even if the blu-ray is running at 720p, the difference from DVD is still huge. I'm using an HD65, and dvds are just plain unwatchable on my big screen.

What resolution are you outputting on the ps3? Its possible that the setting is on 480p/i

+1 you should see a big diffrence.

What movies did u specifically see? There are some BR movies that are encoded at not so higher bit-rates so the transfer is not all that great, even for a BR movie. I also have a PS3 and used that for up-converting movies till recently when I built new HTPC and went that route.

Even on my VP4001 (720p) PJ, the difference between 480p and 1080p is HUGE (for good transfers). This is on a DIY 120" screen as well.....Granted, u'll see more details on a 1080p PJ but 720p PJ's still hold their own ground, considering the $$$ factor.

Some old shots that I've posted on AVS before....Crank BR and one from Prince Caspian. U gotta luv the black levels on DLP though....the last PC shot is 2:35 scope but with the lights out, the thick borders simply blend in with my black wall.

No difference between a 480 and 720p source on a 720p projector?

Ok... Please explain.

ok maybe a little difference, but..not the kind of difference the OP was talking about expecting to see

The HDMI connector on HS10's and HS20's were not implemented correctly and show a horrible picture (soft, off-center). To get a good look, hook it up using the DVI or component connection. BR looks great on my HS10 and HS20 from my HTPC and Samsung 1400 over DVI and component.

That projector came out just over six years ago. The improvements in projector technology since that time have been exponential. The actual resolution of the projector is low on the list of things that would be having a big negative impact on your IQ. Sadly, that projector isn't going to give you the full quality of picture that Blu-ray is capable of, and it's possibly worth looking into an upgrade.

That's a 720p projector. For less than 1K, I'd highly suggest looking at the Sanyo Z60, Epson Home Cinema 720 and Panasonic AX200U. LCD seems to have very good price/performance value these days. The three I mentioned are the major three LCD projector makers, and these would all give you a fantastic image with Blu-ray.

If you're willing to spend more for a very nice projector, like the Epson 6500 or other high end inorganic paneled projector or a highend LCoS projector, you will see a big jump from those projectors, but if you're looking at the entry level projectors like the Epson 6100 or Sanyo Z700, be advised that they use organic panels, as do the projectors above, so the contrast, colors and blacks will be quite similar, only the resolution will change, and that's quite low on the list of priorities.


As for the 2007 Sony you mentioned, if there's a reason you feel it's better than the three I mentioned above, maybe it is for you. I'd personally go with one of the three above if it was me.

yes you DEFINITELY can get a 1080p for 1500.00. i got my Benq W9000 brand new for $1700.00 USD 6 months ago. you just gotta keep your eyes open for good deals. if you look on projector central, search in the used projectors, you can get a refurb mitsubishi hc4900 for $1200.00

Organic panels, as the name implies, involve materials made from organic compounds. These will break down quicker over an extended period of time, and are not capable of the range of contrast and blacks that inorganic panels are capable of. This means that organic panels should last longer and provide a substantially improved image over the life of the projector. (Here's the first thread I found in a quick search, although I remember reading elsewhere that organic panels were supposed to have 4 or 5 times the life span of inorganic...whether that marketing materials or AVS, I don't remember.)

If you're convinced you need 1080p, it's your money, but I strongly recommend you don't bother with the entry level organic LCD projectors. Reviews are pending for the Epson 6500 and Z3000, but having a TW4000 (Epson 6500), I can tell you that the image quality of the latest generation of LCD projectors (6500, Z3000, AE3000) is phenomonal. There's an AVS powerbuy in the +3K forum on the 6500 with a special AVS rebate that may be worth you looking into. (It should be less than 3K after rebate, based on the low price you can get a Z3000 for already.)

If you are interested in DLP, make sure you get some hands on time with one, just in case you have RBE sensitivity, and also be sure that the placement of the projector works in your current setup.

I used to own an Hs10, upgraded to a VPL-VW40. Highly recommended.

Youre wrong sorry; you see a much bigger gain in 480 to 720 than 720 to 1080.

The aw15 is a great 720p projector for the money; not super bright but the contrast ratio is pretty good. It will accept 1080p/24 but just scales it so more of a marketing gimmick really.