Hi...as owner of a digital high-def DVR (the LG3410a) that will only accept TVGOS data in analog form, I have been carefully following developments related to the DTVPal's use for converting digital TVGOS data to an analog form that is useful for a digital device. I have been particularly interested in posts on this topic since some digital stations around the country apparently began, around 10 days ago, broadcasting the special(?) TVGOS data required for the DTVPal's TVGOS mode to function.
I have not looked at all threads related to use of this mode, and in particular at none of the threads devoted to purely analog devices, so I don't know much about how these devices are faring with the Pal in this mode. What concerns me is that I have seen NO case of complete success in using the Pal's TVGOS mode in conjunction with a high-def device with a DIGITAL tuner or recorder.
In the LG3410a thread, of most interest to me, the one person reporting initially getting some TVGOS listings via the Pal has had only limited success as of the last report. And the one example (to my knowledge) reported in the DTVPal thread of someone using the Pal with a digital high-def TV (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post15858559
) indicated that he (or she) could get TVGOS LISTINGS
, but in the setup specified by the Pal manual, his TV was turned into an analog TV
, i.e., it only got signal through the Pal, which was of course analog.
The question is whether there is a mode of using the DTVPal for receiving analog TVGOS data that still permits the use of a digital device (such as a TV or DVR) AS A DIGITAL DEVICE...is not, we are screwed (not to mention grossly misled by the GEMSTAR people).
If we are screwed by the normal setup for the DTVPal in TVGOS mode, there might, of course, be an intermediate operating state, i.e., using the Pal in the TVGOS mode and setting the digital device to the "fake" zip code, but NOT changing it into "cable box" mode or using the DTVPal as a front end, but only as a parallel signal source (in particular of the converted CBS digital channel). Perhaps we would then have a TV Guide screen with program data for the "fake" channel numbers, but would have to tune manually or (more problematically) set recordings manually, rather than using the TV Guide as designed.
If THAT's the way the Pal will work with digital devices, we are only MOSTLY screwed!
I still hope this isn't the way things turn out, but the signs so far are not too hopeful.
In any event, I think we need a thread on Digital HD devices, TVGOS, and the DTVPal
!!! OR on the DTVPal with digital HD devices using analog TVGOS
to have a central point where this issue is discussed. THIS thread could serve this purpose if the first suggested title is employed...just a thought. We could, of course, also reinstate the DTVPal and TVGOS thread tht some time ago was buried in the general DTVPal thread...or to be more precise, we could call it the DTVPal used in TVGOS mode
It would also be useful (and unusually responsible) for Gemstar to indicate HOW the DTVPal is to be used with these devices, since the Pal manual acts like they don't exist!!!