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post #121 of 4018
1/7/09 at 6:53pm
I have been working with TV Scout tonight to try to get this to all work with no luck.

Here is my file set up

TV Series
---Stargate SG1
------Season 1
---------001 - Children of the Gods
------------Video_ts
------------Audio_ts

I point TV Scout at the Stargate SG1 folder and fetch data, it does down load the the poaster and banner but I get the following message for every episode:

Season Folder not Identified: '001 - Children of the Gods'

Any idea what I am doing wrong, I have tried different number formats with no luck. All information talks about using .AVI files, mine are in folders and I have no interest in converting them if that is the problem.
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post #122 of 4018
1/7/09 at 8:44pm
Do it like this
TV Series
--Stargate SG1
rip every episode for a season name each VOB as stargate sg1.s01(for season 1)e01. Do this each time change the s part for the season i.e. s01, s02, also changing e01 for each episode i.e. e01, e02. Once you have the first full season done run TVScout and it will change the file name from stargate sg1.s01e01 to 01 - Children of the Gods, and place each episode from that season to a folder name season 1 01. Also remember the vob need to be in either avi or mkv.
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post #123 of 4018
1/8/09 at 7:10am
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Originally Posted by Wicked Klown View Post

Do it like this
TV Series
--Stargate SG1
rip every episode for a season name each VOB as stargate sg1.s01(for season 1)e01. Do this each time change the s part for the season i.e. s01, s02, also changing e01 for each episode i.e. e01, e02. Once you have the first full season done run TVScout and it will change the file name from stargate sg1.s01e01 to 01 - Children of the Gods, and place each episode from that season to a folder name season 1 01. Also remember the vob need to be in either avi or mkv.

Thats just it, I don't want to go and convert all of my ripped series to AVI, unless I am missing something that is what I would have to do. Each episode has multiple .vob's
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post #124 of 4018
1/8/09 at 8:00am
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

Thats just it, I don't want to go and convert all of my ripped series to AVI, unless I am missing something that is what I would have to do. Each episode has multiple .vob's

You don't have to convert them to .avi, you just have to rip them as individual episodes (you can leave them as mpg). If are not willing to do that then media broweser has no way of titleing and assigning each episode description and screenshot.
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post #125 of 4018
1/8/09 at 8:42am
I may be confusing this, or totaly confused myself, very possible.

I attached a snap shot of my file system. My episoped are ripped direct from the DVD to folder system. Each episode is ripped seperate, but each episode contains multiple .VOB files in the Video_TS folder as you can see.
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post #126 of 4018
1/8/09 at 8:59am
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

I may be confusing this, or totaly confused myself, very possible.

I attached a snap shot of my file system. My episoped are ripped direct from the DVD to folder system. Each episode is ripped seperate, but each episode contains multiple .VOB files in the Video_TS folder as you can see.



I see, sorry I missed it. I didn't realize you already ripped them as individual episodes but left them as .vob. That's not going to work. Media Browser expect to see one file per episode. You can still convert them from .vob to .mpg (no re-encoding necessary, just re-assembling all the .vob into one .mpg container) but you would still have to re-asseble each individual episode.
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post #127 of 4018
1/8/09 at 9:41am
Thanks for the help, I will look into converting them to a single file. Any recomendation on a program that can do it?
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post #128 of 4018
1/8/09 at 10:13am
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

Thanks for the help, I will look into converting them to a single file. Any recomendation on a program that can do it?

Just load them back into DVD Shrink, and turn off the setting that breaks them up into 1GB size files.
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post #129 of 4018
1/8/09 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by ebr View Post

Anyone?

I ripped a couple of my BDs as .isos to see if that would allow me to use MB but, no go so far. I saw someone posted in the MB forum (which I still cannot access because their registration doesn't appear to work for me) that it works for them but I get the same error that NowNot reported - popup that says VCD can't mount.

If I doubleclick the .iso file from explorer, TMT launches and it plays fine (doesn't even appear to mount anything). Why won't it work from MB?

I found the launching of ISO's to be a bit buggy in MB. I have resorted to converting my Blu-Ray to MKV, with the added advantage of not needing TMT or PDVD to play them. With no compression the time difference of the rip is minimal
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post #130 of 4018
1/8/09 at 10:53am
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Originally Posted by davdev View Post

I found the launching of ISO's to be a bit buggy in MB. I have resorted to converting my Blu-Ray to MKV, with the added advantage of not needing TMT or PDVD to play them. With no compression the time difference of the rip is minimal

I tried this (used eac3to to extract video and dts track then mkvmerge to re-assemble) but VMC couldn't play the file properly. I'm guessing because I need to change the decoders in VMC. However, when I run VMCD it doesn't show arcsoft as an option...
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post #131 of 4018
1/8/09 at 11:09am
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

Thanks for the help, I will look into converting them to a single file. Any recomendation on a program that can do it?


Personally, I like videoredo but it not free (15 day trial is available). There is also vob2mpg that is freeware.
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post #132 of 4018
1/8/09 at 11:14am
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

Thanks for the help, I will look into converting them to a single file. Any recomendation on a program that can do it?

I use vob2mpg for this. I have only had a problem with one movie that required videoredo to convert to mpg.
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post #133 of 4018
1/8/09 at 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by ebr View Post

I tried this (used eac3to to extract video and dts track then mkvmerge to re-assemble) but VMC couldn't play the file properly. I'm guessing because I need to change the decoders in VMC. However, when I run VMCD it doesn't show arcsoft as an option...

Have you installed the Hali Media splitter and FFDSHOW? That should really be all you need to play back MKV's in VMC
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post #134 of 4018
1/8/09 at 12:16pm
I didn't install Haali on the HTPC - just the machine I use to make the .mkv.

Why do I need FFDShow if I want to use the ArcSoft TMT decoders? TMT appears to render BDs pretty much perfectly (now that I have it all setup correctly). I don't really want to mess with that. I thought I could just tell VMC to use the arcsoft decoders...
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post #135 of 4018
1/8/09 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by ebr View Post

I didn't install Haali on the HTPC - just the machine I use to make the .mkv.

Why do I need FFDShow if I want to use the ArcSoft TMT decoders? TMT appears to render BDs pretty much perfectly (now that I have it all setup correctly). I don't really want to mess with that. I thought I could just tell VMC to use the arcsoft decoders...

I could be wrong, but I don't think TMT can natively play an MKV. At the very least you will need Hali, you may not need FFDShow depending on the other decoders you have.
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post #136 of 4018
1/8/09 at 1:05pm
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Originally Posted by davdev View Post

I could be wrong, but I don't think TMT can natively play an MKV. At the very least you will need Hali, you may not need FFDShow depending on the other decoders you have.

I thought I had read that you could use VCMD.exe to point VMC at the TMT decoders and have it play the .mkv that way. Maybe I mis-understood.

Anyway, this is turning into a quagmire and MM workes pretty much seamlessly so, I guess I'll just stick with MM until/unless MB implements true BD support.

Oh well.
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post #137 of 4018
1/8/09 at 1:33pm
VMCD.exe is for changing the MPEG2 decoders in VMC and not h264 decoders. VMC will use what ever DIRECTSHOW decoder you have installed on your machine. If you have more than one then the one with the highest merit will be used. Some application will allow the use of their decoders outside their application (cyberlink) other do not. I don't know if TMT allows the use of their h264 decoder outside their application. The easiest thing to do is to get graphedit and drop your .mkv file on it. It will show you the graph that directshow, thus VMC, will create. and use. If you don't like the filter it grabs then change its merit value in the decoders properties.
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post #138 of 4018
1/8/09 at 1:41pm
Exactly as Zagor stated. You need haali installed first and foremost.
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post #139 of 4018
1/8/09 at 2:47pm
I can't seem to save XML data on my movies using Salami Movie Organizer

I get the following error what gives???

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post #140 of 4018
1/8/09 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by ebr View Post

I thought I had read that you could use VCMD.exe to point VMC at the TMT decoders and have it play the .mkv that way. Maybe I mis-understood.

Anyway, this is turning into a quagmire and MM workes pretty much seamlessly so, I guess I'll just stick with MM until/unless MB implements true BD support.

Oh well.

No offence, but installing Hali should take about 10 seconds, and you will be able to play your file natively inside VMC, instead of launching a cludgy app like TMT which is downsampling your audio to boot.

I'll even give you the link to Haali to make it easier:
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi...iasplitter.cfm
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post #141 of 4018
1/8/09 at 4:27pm
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Originally Posted by Cro-man View Post

I can't seem to save XML data on my movies using Salami Movie Organizer

I get the following error what gives???


I found the solution on another site. Turn on hidden files in Vista and delete the mymovies.xml file and other relevant files in the same directory.
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post #142 of 4018
1/8/09 at 10:59pm
Great app! Really loving the backdrop images and TVScout is fantastically easy.

Anyone have any good images for the main TV/Movies folders?
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post #143 of 4018
1/9/09 at 3:52am
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Originally Posted by davdev View Post

I could be wrong, but I don't think TMT can natively play an MKV. At the very least you will need Hali, you may not need FFDShow depending on the other decoders you have.

TMT can natively play MKVs and also includes a directshow filter to handle matroska files.Though I'm reading that Arcsoft may no longer allow access to its filters to 3rd party apps with its latest update (can't confirm that).
That being said, it doesn't cost much to simply add Halli splitter and make life easier.

CFC
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post #144 of 4018
1/9/09 at 4:01am
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Originally Posted by CFC View Post

TMT can natively play MKVs and also includes a directshow filter to handle matroska files.Though I'm reading that Arcsoft may no longer allow access to its filters to 3rd party apps with its latest update (can't confirm that).
That being said, it doesn't cost much to simply add Halli splitter and make life easier.

CFC

Ouch, that would destroy the possibility to rip DTS-MA to flac with eac3to using the Arcsoft DTS-MA decoder. Fortunately I'm done ripping my HD DVS at least...
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post #145 of 4018
1/9/09 at 6:06am
For those of us that have migrated from MM to MB, why would you NOT want to continue to use the MM backend to add new movies?

While there is nothing wrong with Salami's movie organizer, the MM backend collects a lot more detail about each movie, such as the ability to define a sort title, better cover art (the actual BD cover art for Blu-ray movies), and an almost guarantee that the movie selected is the correct one (King Kong 2005 vs. 1976 for example), especially if you go by barcode.

I have close to 1500 movies neatly organized within the MM backend, and I just don't see the appeal in switching to Salami.

I have asked the MB developers if it would be possible to enhance their plug-in to read the MM sort-title Metadata from the MM XML if present. I really want my movies series (Bond, etc) to be sorted correctly.

As far as TV shows, I will continue to add those to the MM backend as well, but since I rip each episode to their own .mkv (especially BD TV series), I augment by using TVScout to pull banners, backdrops and individual episode images to enrich the XML data.

So for those of you that are coming from MM, are you still using the MM backend, or have you converted to using Salami exclusively, and if so, why?
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post #146 of 4018
1/9/09 at 6:48am
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Originally Posted by davdev View Post

No offence, but installing Hali should take about 10 seconds, and you will be able to play your file natively inside VMC, instead of launching a cludgy app like TMT which is downsampling your audio to boot.

I'll even give you the link to Haali to make it easier:
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi...iasplitter.cfm

If that's all there is to it, I'll give it a shot.

You mentioned something in another post about using the TMT decoders during your eac3to run. I do my rips on a different machine than the HTPC so I don't have TMT installed on it. Does that mean I won't get the proper audio in my flac...?
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post #147 of 4018
1/9/09 at 7:07am
Well I converted my VOB's to a single mpg to get TV scout to work correctly. It did work and the interface looks great. But I am not to crazy about loosing chapters and fast forward and reverse no longer work when I make a mpg file. So for now I will stick with VOB and see if I can find a work around.
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post #148 of 4018
1/9/09 at 7:51am
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

Well I converted my VOB's to a single mpg to get TV scout to work correctly. It did work and the interface looks great. But I am not to crazy about loosing chapters and fast forward and reverse no longer work when I make a mpg file. So for now I will stick with VOB and see if I can find a work around.

Just merge all your *.vob to one .vob for each movie/tv show. Then rename that file to whatever is recognized by MM and you should be ok.

i.e.
Code:
Stargate SG1
                  \\Season 1
                                \\SG1.S01E01.VOB
                                \\SG1.S01E02.VOB
As long as you keep this structure and that there is episode information available from the filename (S01E01 part; Can be anywhere in the filename), MM will work fine. At least it does for me...
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post #149 of 4018
1/9/09 at 8:23am
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Originally Posted by ebr View Post

If that's all there is to it, I'll give it a shot.

You mentioned something in another post about using the TMT decoders during your eac3to run. I do my rips on a different machine than the HTPC so I don't have TMT installed on it. Does that mean I won't get the proper audio in my flac...?

In order to convert DTS-MA to flac you need TMT installed on the machine doing the rip. TrueHD does not require TMT. It is the one thing I find aggravating about the whole process. If you do not have TMT, it will still rip the legacy tracks, just not the DTS-MA one
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post #150 of 4018
1/9/09 at 8:26am
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Originally Posted by pclausen View Post

For those of us that have migrated from MM to MB, why would you NOT want to continue to use the MM backend to add new movies?

While there is nothing wrong with Salami's movie organizer, the MM backend collects a lot more detail about each movie, such as the ability to define a sort title, better cover art (the actual BD cover art for Blu-ray movies), and an almost guarantee that the movie selected is the correct one (King Kong 2005 vs. 1976 for example), especially if you go by barcode.

I have close to 1500 movies neatly organized within the MM backend, and I just don't see the appeal in switching to Salami.

I have asked the MB developers if it would be possible to enhance their plug-in to read the MM sort-title Metadata from the MM XML if present. I really want my movies series (Bond, etc) to be sorted correctly.

As far as TV shows, I will continue to add those to the MM backend as well, but since I rip each episode to their own .mkv (especially BD TV series), I augment by using TVScout to pull banners, backdrops and individual episode images to enrich the XML data.

So for those of you that are coming from MM, are you still using the MM backend, or have you converted to using Salami exclusively, and if so, why?


I still use the MM collection manager, mainly because I already had MM installed and most of my catalog was already setup. If I hadn't I would probably use the Salami program since it is a much smaller program. I have also found the MM collection manager to be very slow to load, and while it is great having actor information, the order in which the actors get catorgorized is baffling. On 2/3 of my movies some random extra is listed on top, while the main stars are mixed in throughout the list and the process of editing this list, is a big pain. I would love to find a way to just shut off the actor lookup.
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