The Official Dark Knight BR Review and Discussion Thread (This is NOT for PQ)

With the Gotham = Chicago look, I suppose this is similar to the Metropolis = New York City look in Donner's Superman films.

Why does he use the voice with Rachel and Dent at the party? (just before the Joker comes in)? 1/she knows who he is and 2/he didn't have his suit yet... ??

You mean when bruce puts harvey in a sleeper hold he used that voice? I dont remember what voice he used.

I just hate the part where batman and rachel fall out of the penthouse and land on that taxi with nothing much to break their fall and they are fine. lol, they could have used his cape to slow them down of something. i still laugh at that part.

He growled at Rachel when he didn't have the cowl on during the penthouse scene because that part of him just took over. Bruce isn't just doing the voice because it's a disguise; it's another part of his psyche. The Batman takes over when Bruce goes into action. Batman is one scary, disturbed part of this individual. He's a guy who has never gotten over a childhood trauma, and he clearly has deep seated issues. The best line in the movie is when Batman growls, "I don't need any help." Scarecrow: "That's not my diagnosis."

He uses his cape, at the very last moment of the fall.

Thanks; wow I really need to read all the books!

I've been watching my Blu-ray copy for the last 1hr and haven't noticed any issues. Have you tried the other audio tracks? I am using the Dolby TrueHD and my receiver is matrixing it to a 7.1 mix for my 7.1 system.

Not sure where my post went. Posts come and go so quickly around here, but anyhow. Watched it, loved it, satisfied with the end product.


Seriously, was that necessary? Guess you are mistaken for Brad Pitt all the time?

I watched it for about a good hour using TrueHD and never noticed a problem. I had it cranked kinda loud too.

No problem here either (using TrueHD)

What other equipment do you have?
How is it connected?

Someone that finally gets it. Batman is not Bruce Wayne simply playing dressup, if anything, it's the Bruce Wayne playboy that's the hard part for him to maintain.


Well for me, the biggest insight into the Joker's insanity, was when he called her beautiful. Clearly deranged...

He's probably not cast in movies as a sex symbol.

That girl as Bruce Wayne's love interest doesn't work.

It makes no sense.

What makes the story tragic, is that he hurts Bruce Wayne for the sake of Batman.

This was my biggest disappointment too. Everything else met expectations.

For a bunch of ppl who are stretching the comic book to the very edges with the analysis, I am surprised you can't do that for Maggie too in the part.

If I stretched her face, it might be an improvement... OUCH!! That was bitchy, even by my standards, LOL!


Agreed. You could also argue that he's also hurting his father's legacy.

I really like action scenes like this without a score to go with them. For that matter, I'd like to see more scenes in movies go without a score to tell me how I'm supposed to be feeling at that moment. Don't get me wrong though, I love a good score, just not one that's overly used.

I agree, the fight scenes frankly suck in the Nolan films. In BB, they're almost incomprehensible due to the crappy shaky cam work. In TDK, the camera work is a little better, but is ruined by the fact that Batman exclusively uses clumsy, clubbing blows with his fists. All the modern Batman media depicts him as a skilled martial artist, and yet the Nolan films fight choreography seems to have regressed back to the 60s TV show.

Yeah, he has to pretend to be Bruce Wayne. To make people guess he would be the last person on Earth who could be Batman, he pretends to be a non-caring alcoholic. In BB he "gets drunk" and kicks everyone out of the party. In TDK he "shows up drunk" and then tosses his drink over the side of the building when nobody is looking. He also goes swimming in the hotel with the models and acts like he doesn't know about the hospital situation to seem as if he's just a playboy who is detached from the real world and just out to have fun.


The monorail is visible in the first shot of Wayne Tower. Various Chicago El Trains are also visible throughout the whole movie, but the actual monorail is seen atleast once. I finally found it on my 4th time of seeing the movie. Also, I heard that Wayne Tower was supposed to be so damaged from the monorail wreck that it had major repairs done.


In the comics, he always has his mouth slightly open to look like he's full of rage I think. In the scene where he is trying to tear open the door on the Scarecrows van you can really see it. That's just my guess though. Also, he looks tired after a lot of the fights, he's probably breathing through his mouth since the mask covers his nose, lol.

Bruce looks for more than a sex symbol in Rachel. He loves her. It makes perfect sense. Besides, Holmes was cute in BB, but I wouldn't qualify her as a sex symbol either. She looked too young. She lacked maturity... ...like most of the comments about Maggie Gyllenhaal...

While using the PS3 hooked up via optical (TrueHD selected), I had what the OP described - audio dropped for about 1/2 a second. Just happened once. To the best of my knowledge, that's the first audio glitch I've had since buying the PS3 nearly two years ago.

EDIT: I see that we're both using an optical connection, not HDMI.

I think they used some form of martial art, "Keysi" or something, and made it very "faithful" to how the style is performed.

I think they used it partially to give Batman a more streetfighting/realistic/gritty feel when fighting and because of restrictions related to the costume's material - it restricts movement.

No, I'm sorry, it doesn't. She was very good looking in the first one, and the same character was hideous in the second one (since they couldn't use Holmes again they should've at least cast another attractive girl,) how does that make sense?

In the first movie her character was nice to look at, in the second she looked like Skeletor with a considerable meth habit, it doesn't make any sense visually. It was a case of poor casting.

If you look for imperfection you will see it.
Look @ Batman Begin & that stupid scarecrow stuff.
BB wasn't my favorite of the Nolan films because of the scarecrow crap & the bad island set where arkum asylum was located on (total studio backlot).

You want to see fake film, look @ the monorail set & gotham skyline in BB.

Am I nitpicking enough for ya? Not following the herd on BB that's for sure.

For me it was more like center channel audio fades outs?? I watched Batman Begins on Friday night and noticed a few times throughout the movie my center channel would cut out. Not to the point of being completely gone, just like someone turned down the volume on that one channel significantly. Would last for a few seconds, in some cases up to a minute then everything would go back to normal. Very frustrating and annoying to say the least. Played the new X-Files & Wanted over the weekend with no issues at all.

Then last night I watched The Dark Knight and had the same thing happen! Wouldn't last long, just a minute or two then back to normal. Seemed to happen less with the TDK then BB but was still present. Really bad in the scene with Dent, Gordon, The Mayor right after Dent rounds up all the bad guys.

Anyone else here experience this?? With either of these titles, or other movies in general?? My subwoofer is coming later today and on Friday I'll be disconnecting everything while I install it and clean up the mess of wires behind my unit. I'm planning on replacing the speaker wire as I've been using the same one since I bought the reciever to see if that is the culprit, however I think its highly unlikely.

Deep down I'm hoping someone here will tell me it sounds like my receiver is going so I can use that as an excuse to pick up a Denon-888 (or Onkoyo-606)...

Samsung 1500 Blu-Ray Player is hooked up to a Sony srt-475 Receiver (2001) via optical and player is set to Bitstream (ReEncode). Receiver is reading the DTS 5.1 core.

Thanks in advance for any help!!

No issues here with HDMI and BluRay.
MG is an everyday decent looking girl, but not on Hollywood's hot level by any means..

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but performance isn't in this case.
She's 10x the actress that Katie Holmes is that's for sure.
When you look @ both's performances, most ppl will hand the trophy to Maggie that's for sure.

While KH's performance was mediocre in BB @ best - kinda dragged the movie IMO - MG rounded up the all-star lineup & matched all the other performances in quality on the TDK.

While her looks is debatable, her performance isn't by any measure.