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post #31 of 209
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When I had Aura shakers I didn't have the equipment to cross them over really low and I wasn't happy. I'll give the Aura's another try in my media room some day but these buttkickers seem to be in another league.

Yeah the Aura shakers only go down to 20Hz, the buttkickers go down to 5Hz!!

Kind of pointless to have shakers that only do 20Hz
post #32 of 209
Thanks guys.
I'm heading out this minute to get the 1000 wt amp and 4 units, to test on my 4 front seats..If I like I'll go back for the rear row of seats.
I see them at Home depot. ? Of all places.?
I'll be back in a few hours to chime in my results/opinions.
Going to try Planet of the Apes Blu-ray.
post #33 of 209
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Originally Posted by penngray View Post

Yeah the Aura shakers only go down to 20Hz, the buttkickers go down to 5Hz!!

Kind of pointless to have shakers that only do 20Hz

I ran some test tones both with Audyssey engaged and without to eliminate any inconsistencies. This applies for the newest Buttkicker with the new Bash amp. The transducer is clearly not happy at 10hz or 12.5hz for that matter however it is very strong from 15hz on up. Below 15hz it did't bottom as I eased up because you can clearly hear the tranducer in operation instead of just the feeling as normal. I still like it and it is extremely easy to hook (love the wireless interface) and they include EVERYTHING you need Curious if anyone has measured the other BKs to determine if they actually do 5hz? Not a deal breaker for me and will probably order another.
post #34 of 209
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Originally Posted by stevegamble66 View Post

Everyone seems to have such High reviews of these.
What is the TOP model for Home Theatre.
Are these designed for don't disturb the neighbours set ups ? Or is that just a side bonus ?

The TOP that I know of for home theater is D-BOX unless you meant out of just the Buttkicker offerings.
post #35 of 209
The TOP that I know of for home theater is D-BOX unless you meant out of just the Buttkicker offerings
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Thanks..
I meant out of buttkicker...I now mean Best Period.

I just got home from Future shop and Home depot.. No buttkickers.
FS said they were a novelty item that didn't sell very well. ??
I did get a pair of Rti10's to replace my Rti8's for fronts.

Where can I get A GOOD Buttkicker/chair shaker.. on line ?
I want the best.
post #36 of 209
Crowson TES 100 vs Buttkicker ?

any user comments ?

I've heard some complain of lag or delay in bass response compared to the running sub ?
improper install ?
Or just a rare movie track ?
post #37 of 209
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Originally Posted by stevegamble66 View Post

Crowson TES 100 vs Buttkicker ?

any user comments ?

I've heard some complain of lag or delay in bass response compared to the running sub ?
improper install ?
Or just a rare movie track ?

Widescreen review did a review that included the two above and another one from I believe Totem if you wanna do a search. They did speak favorably of the Crowson when combined with the Buttkicker's amplifier.
post #38 of 209
Seems all the review look favourable.
Q. Does it matter if I attatch this to my chair leg, or to a sturdy wood frame portion near the lower back of the chairs.

My seating has 3 chairs attatched with brackets row one and two chairs attatched row two. For 5 seats total.

I was thinking 1000wt amp and 4-5 kickers bolted to lower rear of La z boy HT seating.
They have a large hollow in the rear to hide everything. and running wires so they're hidden is easy for my set up.
post #39 of 209
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Curious if anyone has measured the other BKs to determine if they actually do 5hz? Not a deal breaker for me and will probably order another.

What??? the specs are lying

I actually did not test my buttkickers to 5Hz. I just know they are better then the aura shakers because I compared both.
post #40 of 209
Q. Does it matter if I attatch this to my chair leg, or to a sturdy wood frame portion near the lower back of the chairs??

Does it have a localized feel, or have the chair react differently by placement of the transducer?
ie; feel it more in your back rather than seat ?
post #41 of 209
I am also in Ottawa and was very frustrated with my inability to find anywhere in Canada to buy the Buttkicker. Last year when the dollar hit parity I jumped on it and ordered the LFE kit and Gamer from Buttkicker Direct. Using a coupon code that can be found pretty easily via google you can save a lot of $$$ compared to the listed price. I started out using the couch mounting plate that comes with the kit but in the end I opened up my couch and screwed it directly to a 5X7 board I now have running the length of the couch. I find the effect is enhanced having it mounted this way and I don't need to turn the Buttkicker amp up as far. I am very pleased with the purchase!

I must also say that their customer service and support are absolutely second to none.
post #42 of 209
Can anyone compare the performance of buttkicker to Crowson.
Can a Crowson be installed inside a seat similar to Buttkicker ?
They say they the mount under a chair leg and use the floor to push against for movement/vibration... and.. that they are superior to "shaker" type vibrators.
I see they cost more.
post #43 of 209
I think i'm going Buttkicker NObody seems to be the Popular vote as 90% of everyone goes Buttkicker and is happy.
Earthquake may set the chair on fire. Run HOT.
Crowson is hard to get a hold of, and nobody claims they are tops!
But kickers less than half $ of crowson or Earthquake just as bonus. when your in the market for 5 units.
post #44 of 209
I Beam.. uh oh, new product with highest raves, as High Definition Bass.
Most Powerful pounds thrust per watt to date, easy in chair install.
they reccomend High freq setting 20-500hz?
low power requirements to drive them.
No low end response, but Super Fast, super detailed. no roll on after a scene, etc..
?
Cost double over buttkicker though.
similar to crowson price wise, more thump, similar speed and accracey, from what I read.
post #45 of 209
Has anyone mounted a unit in a non-traditional place i.e. not under a seat?

I only have one seat heavy enough for a butt kicker and the othe seat is very lightly built but I would still like some movement in it's area. Would I rig something to the floor or wall?
post #46 of 209
Worth $299?

Do I want the BKA300 for $300 or is the LFE Kit a nice upgrade for $400. This whole thing is sort of confusing lol.
post #47 of 209
The unnatural delay concerns are a big problem for me personally
post #48 of 209
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Originally Posted by goonstopher View Post

The unnatural delay concerns are a big problem for me personally

Which ones have you had this experience with?
post #49 of 209
none... i never had them just from reading reviews
post #50 of 209
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Originally Posted by goonstopher View Post

none... i never had them just from reading reviews

If there is one, my wife and I haven't noticed it. Maybe my butt-o-meter isn't as sensitive as the reviewers.
post #51 of 209
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none... i never had them just from reading reviews

lol, then why post it as truth?? Honestly reviews are useless because people in general are kind of usless in terms of giving someone else answers ONLY because our setups (rooms and equipment) and our senses are all EXTREMELY different.

Reviews are simply people telling what color they like, someone likes red, someone else likes blue.

Buy the product, test it, enjoy it or return it.

IMO, Buttkickers rock!! AND I do have a sub setup that is worth probably $10K comercially.
post #52 of 209
Is this a new product from Buttkicker. It is not listed on the web page?
post #53 of 209
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Originally Posted by jwhitta View Post

Is this a new product from Buttkicker. It is not listed on the web page?

Yes,the only information that I was able to find on it was at Amazon.
post #54 of 209
cnet isnt exactly "dsicriminating" reviewers and they complained about a bad delay ha... they are so non-dsciriminating that they gave the polk psw10 a best of the year award a couple years back
post #55 of 209
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Originally Posted by septim View Post

Worth $299?

Do I want the BKA300 for $300 or is the LFE Kit a nice upgrade for $400. This whole thing is sort of confusing lol.

Buttkicker LFE kit on eBay cheap less than the 299 your talking about.
guy has 10 units.
post #56 of 209
Buttkicker Lag from what I understand is Minimal that only fussy people like me may notice.
Faster, more high end transducers produce marginal performance improvement, for more than marginal dollars.
ie; 10%-30% performance increase = 100% more money. Earthquake 300% cost increase.
Crowson 250% cost increase.. etc.. IBeam, by Sonic Imersion. and so on.
For me.. I want the best I can find..not D-Box
But for the Money Buttkickers are likely the Best over-all performace for dollar product.
Not many will argue that.
post #57 of 209
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Originally Posted by stevegamble66 View Post

Buttkicker LFE kit on eBay cheap less than the 299 your talking about.
guy has 10 units.

Where??

I have checked many times and its always 399 + shipping...

Has anyone ever NOT decoupled chair/couch from the floor on purpose to get addiction floor movement?

Can the mini or gamer BK be daisy chained onto the full size unit for use on a smaller chair?
post #58 of 209
http://cgi.ebay.com/BUTTKICKER-BK-LF...QQcmdZViewItem

349
but 124 for additional LFE units.
Home theatre shop.. direct dealer on ebay.

There is a guy @ 275 but.. I can't find it now ?
They were removed from a arcade though(used)
post #59 of 209
I have been using tactile transducers for over 10 years.

I started out with an array of 8 RBH FX-80's. (ultra high performance Aura units)
I used these for about a year and replaced the array with a pair of Clark Synthesis TST 329 Gold models and then stepped up to their TST 429 Platinums. I used these for about a year as well.
For a brief period I installed four Crowsen Tech TES-100's when they were released.

When I moved on to the Original ButtKickers I started driving each pair with Carvin DCM-1000 amps bridged mono. This was before the release of the BK amplifier.
I couldn't handle the fan noise so I picked up a pair of convection cooled Crown K2's and have been using them to drive my BK's ever since.

At one point I have driven a single Buttkicker with a bridged K2 (2500 W bridged mono into 4 ohms) and they always stayed cool to the touch. I have never had one bottom out. I have also used subharmonic synthesizers on their signal.

The original ButtKickers outperform all the models I have used in the past and I have never had a problem with any unit.
I used the BK's in conjunction with a pair of Velodyne HGS18's. I now use a pair of Epik Conquests in my theater with the BK's.

I don't have experience with the ButtKicker LFE yet. I have had one for over six months and haven't hooked it up. I have some Berkline theater recliners on the way and will be testing it inside one with the BK conversion kit.

John

Original BK sitting next to the BK LFE.

post #60 of 209
You can get the kit for 320 direct from BK with shipping... I can't afford them now but am scared the coupon code will run out
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