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post #301 of 5912
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Originally Posted by Balthaczar View Post

So you can turn off the grid guide if you want too? If so that is pretty cool offering the best of both worlds

You can use it or not use it. They have a shortcut to it from the remote (double tap the square). Hitting the Moxi key still takes you to the regular up-down scroll list - in which you can select the grid view if you don't remember the remote shortcut. But it doesn't change the Moxi key to default to the grid view. If you always want grid view, you have to use the new remote shortcut every time.

- IT Geek
post #302 of 5912
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Originally Posted by itgeek View Post

Ok, standard disclaimer applies... this is pre-release software. The final release may change. Features may look different or disappear when they move to final public release. I'm not covered by an NDA but be nice and don't go reposting them somewhere else.
- IT Geek

Wow, very cool. Thanks.
post #303 of 5912
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Originally Posted by lee78221 View Post

Wow, very cool. Thanks.

PS... to answer your original question... they don't solicit end users as beta testers. Nor do they readily accept them. The software engineers basically took pity on me b/c of the problems I'd had. And I think my detailed but concise trouble reports, along w/ a lot of pre-troubleshooting on my part before I would ever submit an issue, warmed their hearts.

- IT Geek
post #304 of 5912
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Originally Posted by itgeek View Post

Yes there is now a Grid Guide. I don't like grid guides so it doesn't turn my crank. Sort of reminds me of the old ReplayTV guide. Basic looking but functional.

I'm glad to see Moxi implement a Grid Guide. This is a great example that they are listening to the end user.

I also expect to hear a announcement about the Moxi-Mate sometime soon. Looking forward to seeing the exact specs/details on that.
post #305 of 5912
Looks like the mate should be released within the next couple of days.

$399 retail or $1000 for the moxi and the mate.

http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/08/04...the-moxi-mate/
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post #307 of 5912
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Originally Posted by Derrick2020 View Post

Looks like the mate should be released within the next couple of days.

$399 retail or $1000 for the moxi and the mate.

http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/08/04...the-moxi-mate/

Engadget reports that existing Moxi owners will be able to order a Moxi Mate for $199. That price is reasonable, and much more in line with what Moxi was telling early adopters via email and phone.

The Moxi Mate can access (and delete?) recordings, but it doesn't have a guide and can't access liveTV. Only one Moxi Mate can stream a HD recording at a time. Hopefully, a future update will add the ability to schedule recordings.

I'm curious whether the Moxi Mate can access recordings-in-progress, or whether a recording must complete before it can play.
post #308 of 5912
well it will be nice to see the full list of updates... I know another feature needed is moxi-moxi viewing lets hope that is in this update... looks like a good time two buy my second moxi with a mate...

funny I was just doing a search to find compatable esata drives when i found the gizmodo update.
post #309 of 5912
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Originally Posted by itgeek View Post

(Moxi doesn't) solicit end users as beta testers. Nor do they readily accept them. The software engineers basically took pity on me b/c of the problems I'd had. And I think my detailed but concise trouble reports, along w/ a lot of pre-troubleshooting on my part before I would ever submit an issue, warmed their hearts.

- IT Geek

Before the standalone Moxi was introduced, Moxi briefly did solicit potential end users as beta testors.
post #310 of 5912
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Originally Posted by itgeek View Post

You can use it or not use it. They have a shortcut to it from the remote (double tap the square). Hitting the Moxi key still takes you to the regular up-down scroll list - in which you can select the grid view if you don't remember the remote shortcut. But it doesn't change the Moxi key to default to the grid view. If you always want grid view, you have to use the new remote shortcut every time.

- IT Geek

When a user selects the grid EPG when would Moxi revert to its unique format other than when it occasionally reboots?
post #311 of 5912
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Originally Posted by bfdtv View Post

The Moxi Mate can access (and delete?) recordings, but it doesn't have a guide and can't access liveTV. Only one Moxi Mate can stream a HD recording at a time. Hopefully, a future update will add the ability to schedule recordings.

They will be adding liveTV to the Moxi Mate soon:

http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/08/04...image-page/16/
post #312 of 5912
Unless Tivo adds Tru2way(By the way of a new box or the one I have) by at least the 2nd quarter of 2010 I'm outtie.

Thanks Moxi for adding SDV support(Making the choice so much easier).:up:
post #313 of 5912
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Originally Posted by lee78221 View Post

They will be adding liveTV to the Moxi Mate soon:

http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/08/04...image-page/16/

This is a key feature I wanted to see in the Moxi-Mate.
post #314 of 5912
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Originally Posted by lee78221 View Post

They will be adding liveTV to the Moxi Mate soon:

http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/08/04...image-page/16/

Thanks, that makes the Moxi Mate a much more compelling solution than a recordings-only access device.
post #315 of 5912
Its odd that Live TV wouldn't work. In essance live tv is a real-time recording. Whenever a tuner is on a channel there is a live buffer that is created, which is in essange a recorded show. I'm guessing if there is an issue it would be with the mate being able to control the tv tuners.
post #316 of 5912
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Originally Posted by bfdtv View Post

Only one Moxi Mate can stream a HD recording at a time.

Actually, this quote from crunchgear is wrong. You can use as many Mates per Moxi as you want, but you probably won't be able to stream more than 2 HD streams (2 Mates) at a time off of one Moxi.

Also, the Mates can access currently recording content within about a minute of the recording starting on the main unit.
post #317 of 5912
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Originally Posted by bkdtv View Post

Moxi includes DLNA support, so no third-party software is needed with Windows 7. In Windows 7, you simply right-click on the video and select "Send to Moxi" and it begins playing on the Moxi. And you don't need any special software installed for the Moxi to access the shared video folders on your Windows 7 PC. As alluded to above, Moxi also added support for more video formats without conversion or transcoding, such as MKV (with H.264).

How do I get this to work? Even with music I right click on a song and I don't see "Send to Moxi".

Thanks.
post #318 of 5912
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Originally Posted by lee78221 View Post

How do I get this to work? Even with music I right click on a song and I don't see "Send to Moxi".

Wait until you get the new software first.
post #319 of 5912
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Originally Posted by Ohallik View Post

Actually, this quote from crunchgear is wrong. You can use as many Mates per Moxi as you want.

In the conference call today they implied fewer are better. I don't know why. I think they said the cableco version supports 5, retail maxes out at 3 but they suggest no more than 2. Something like that. And it also sounds like the first is $200 with the promotion (which may or may not be permanent) but that if you wanted a second, it'd be the full $400.

I did a brief write up (busy day at work, sorry) and also shot a video running through the guides and showing the SDV stuff. It doesn't look much different than the shots leaked last night, tho.

http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2009-08/...and-os-update/
post #320 of 5912
Moxi.com website is now updated with the new Moxi Mate.
post #321 of 5912
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Originally Posted by davezatz View Post

In the conference call today they implied fewer are better. I don't know why. I think they said the cableco version supports, retail maxes out at 3 but they suggest no more than 2.

http://moxi.com/us/faq.html

Multi-Room

8. How many Moxi Mates can I connect to my Moxi HD DVR?

At this time, we recommend that you connect one Moxi Mate. You can technically connect more than one Moxi Mate, but the two TV tuners would have to be shared across all connected set top boxes. You can also choose to purchase multiple Moxi HD DVRs in combination with Moxi Mates to provide access to additional rooms with additional TV tuners.

9. Can the Moxi Mate watch live TV?

At this time, the Moxi Mate does not tune to live TV. You can start recording a program on your Moxi HD DVR, and then begin watching the program on your Moxi Mate.

10. Can I start watching a show on my Moxi HD DVR and begin where I left off on my Moxi Mate?

Yes!

11. Do I need to set programs to record on both my Moxi HD DVR and my Moxi Mate?

No. Once you've set a program to record on your Moxi HD DVR, those programs will automatically be available to you on your Moxi Mate.
post #322 of 5912
Just got my update(forced it). Picking up a Tuning adapter tomorrow.
post #323 of 5912
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Originally Posted by lee78221 View Post

Just got my update(forced it). Picking up a Tuning adapter tomorrow.

For those who were wondering, yes SDV and the required entitlements were in tonight's update.

The new software version is: 6.0.1.8R4BR.

You can trigger an update or the software install from the System -> Diagnostics -> Service Status menu.

The update can take a little while to install so don't freak out if it seams like nothing is happening.

My SDV tuning adapter is a Cisco branded STA1520.

- IT Geek
post #324 of 5912
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Originally Posted by teeitup View Post

Moxi.com website is now updated with the new Moxi Mate.

I found it amusing that Moxi actually used the following quote on the updated front page:

Introducing A Godsend, Moxi HD DVR. Engadget HD

Strangely enough, they didn't include a link to the full review on the front page like they did with the other 4 or 5 quotes. I wonder why?

Speaking of the EndgadgetHD review, I owe an apology to Ben D. I read the review when it first came out and completely dismissed it as just another "Tivo does everything better.." review from a Tivo fanboy. After using the Moxi for over a month, I have to admit Ben was 100% spot on with his criticisms. His "Too many clicks" complaint is my biggest gripe. They overly complicate the simplest of tasks, from changing the channel to recording the current channel. When I'm scrolling through the channel list and I stop at new channel and press OK, I expect Moxi to tune to that channel. Instead Moxi decides I need a submenu with a list of every possible action available. It was quaint the first time, now it's just plain annoying. I also have to agree with Ben about the utter lack of customizations available to the interface. Is it too much to ask to be able to change the channel list order from ascending to descending? Or sort the Recorded TV by date instead of alphabetical order? Can I please get rid of all the useless Main Menu Icons that I never use? Or at least move the Settings Icon over by the other frequently used items? It seems like no matter what I want to do with my Moxi, no matter what button I push, Moxi always dumps me on the exact opposite side of where I want to be. So I have to start the endless cycle of scrolling, scrolling and more scrolling. The only thing I didn't see eye to eye with on the Endgadget HD review was their odd hatred for the video preview window. Personally, it doesn't bother me too much.

I'm sorry this turned into a rant, but I really had high hopes for this Moxi. It sounded exactly like the DVR I had been searching for since I gave up on Tivo. The hardware really is a fantastic piece of equipment. It's a terrific looking box that runs whisper silent and stays remarkably cool. Add in a lightning fast interface and gorgeous HD display, Moxi could have actually been the World's Best DVR. Sadly, poor execution in the software wound up dragging it down to just another DVR.
post #325 of 5912
Well I can confirm both divx(avi) and h.264(mkv) are streaming just fine to the moxi..


On the PC
In windows media player right click on library, click more options, sharing tab and share my media. make sure the directory with the music/movies are added to the list of dirctories

On the moxi
open the moxi menu migrate to the media link connection and wait for your pc to show up. click on it and you should be good to go.

if you get a not authorized when you are trying to find your media go back to your pc and you should find a authorize device screen in the media player under the same sharing screen.

thats it...

or download playon, or tversity, if you have a mack you can use twonky...

I am not sure if the version of media player in windows 7 is dlna 2.0. I don't think it is so you will not be able to see media from the moxi yet. but stay tuned!
post #326 of 5912
Are the tuning adapters tied to each CableCard? Or can I move them from unit to unit?
post #327 of 5912
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Originally Posted by Eagle17 View Post

I am not sure if the version of media player in windows 7 is dlna 2.0. I don't think it is so you will not be able to see media from the moxi yet. but stay tuned!

Did you enable DLNA in Windows 7?

I believe you do this in the "Network and Sharing center" control panel under "Change advanced sharing settings."
post #328 of 5912
Question?? Can I stream recorded TV from my computer to the Moxi? More specifically recorded programs in Windows 7 Media Center. Kind of like using a Xbox 360 extender. It seems with the various codec's it supports and DLNA it should be possible, but I'm not familiar enough to know for sure.
post #329 of 5912
From Contentinople

Digeo Intros Pricey Set-Top for Bedroom DVR Viewing

By Ryan Lawler, August 4. 2009

Fans of Digeo Inc. 's expensive high-definition (HD) digital video recorder (DVR) can rejoice knowing that the company has finally come up with a pricey new way to watch their recorded programming in other rooms of the house.

The new Moxi Mate set-top box is designed to have most of the functionality of Digeo's HD DVRs, allowing customers to watch programming directly from their DVR in other rooms of the house. Customers can also connect to networked home media files and view all the same over-the-top Web video content that is available through Digeo's existing DVRs.

But there are limitations to the new companion set-top box. Customers need to bring their own network for the Moxi Mate to work, and it doesn't have all the same live recording and scheduled recording functionality that is available through the Moxi HD DVR, according to Digeo CEO Greg Gudorf.

Furthermore, there are limits to how many recorded programs that consumers can watch at any one time. Moxi HD DVRs only allow up to three streams off the hard drive simultaneously, and Digeo recommends that users only have one Moxi mate running at a time, "or the performance will degrade," Gudorf says.

"We want to ensure that the performance remains top-notch," he says.

For customers that want to extend the capabilities of their existing Moxi HD DVRs without purchasing a whole new $799 system, Digeo is introducing the Moxi Mate set-top box at the not-so-low price of $399.

The company, which has never shied away from high-priced consumer products, is making some discounts for new customers that want to bundle a new Moxi HD DVR and Moxi Mate, offering both up for $999. And existing, loyal Moxi HD DVR customers can purchase a Moxi Mate at the discounted rate of $199.

Because some customers might get sticker shock, Digeo introduced payment plans earlier this year that make it products somewhat more attainable -- customers can now buy the Moxi HD DVR with four monthly payments of $199.75 or 20 monthly payments of $39.95.

The Moxi Mate will be available under similar terms -- through four monthly payments of $99.75 or 20 monthly payments of $19.95. And the bundled offering, priced at $999, will be available for four monthly installments of $249.75 or 20 monthly payments of $49.95.

For those who don't have to worry about payment plans but need to record the absolute most amount of video that could possibly be imaginable, Digeo has partnered with LaCie to enable customers to hook their HD DVRs up to the storage vendor's 6 Terabyte external hard drive. By doing so, consumers will be able to record 1,000 hours of video, or 12 times the amount that the Moxi HD DVR's internal storage is capable of holding.

And hey, that LaCie hard drive will only set you back another $1,399.
post #330 of 5912
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Originally Posted by fallingwater View Post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_exY9ptMbA

At this point it appears there's no Moxi Mate $200 promo!

They are probably only going to allow this to people that purchased the moxie before the release. If you are interested you should give them a call.

I am buying a second moxi and a mate together but would be interested to find out if you are able to buy one for your existing moxi at the reduced price.

BFDTV,
I do not think "play to" is fully baked yet. also you would need to have some way of authorizing a device for sending media. I would not want some creep in a van parked in my neighbor hood sending pron to my tv...

That being said. it is a dlna standard so I would expect it would be possible to support but not manditory as dlna is not a all or nothing standard.
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