Moxi HD DVR - Page 17

Anyone else notice the price drop on the dual tuner Moxi. And now they have released a three-tuner Moxi. Wish I would have waited a little while longer, but I have no regrets about purchasing a Moxi. What I am most excited about is the announcement that live TV will soon be available from the Moxi Mate. Now with a $499 Moxi, Tivo is going to have to up the ante.

http://moxi.com/us/home.html

The Moxi seems like a much better value at $499. The triple-tuner version for $799 with an extender seems reasonable, too.

Arris Cuts Moxi Pricing, Adds 3-Tuner HD DVR:
http://www.twice.com/article/388148-...nk&rid=5288410

Considering Tivo Lifetime subscription is $399, buying Moxi can save you $100 although it doesn't give you direct access to OTT video services and ATSC tuners.

Much better now, yes!

I just read the Engadget article about the price decrease, which lead me to their review. Is the Moxi still stymied by all the usability negatives Engadget mentioned? Does it still take too many clicks to get things done, display shows as "A" or "B"?

This is definitely making a purchase of the Moxi more likely. How will it work with the 3 tuners? Does this mean an additional card? How will the mate be able to show live tv? Why does it not do it now?

All three tuners can use one M-card. I just use my Moxi with clear-QAM, so I don't have a cablecard. The Mate currently only allows you to watch recorded shows or recordings currently in progress on the main unit. With the new update you will be able to use one of the Moxi's tuners to watch live TV and schedule/edit recordings on the Mate.

Moxi has addressed some of the negatives such as adding a grid guide, although I like the vertical guide better. My wife prefers the grid. I have found the Moxi just takes a different approach on the interface and takes some time to get used to. Once you get used to the remote functions and shortcuts, it is easy to navigate.

How responsive and quick is the guide? Is it faster than Directv's unit? Does anyone know how it compares to Verizion Fios' HD DVR box?

There is a note on Moxi's page that states:

Some cable companies use a technology called Switched Digital Video to transmit TV stations. If your cable provider uses Switched Digital Video, you will need to use an SDV adapter. Some cable providers only support two tuners with their SDV adapters. Please contact your cable provider to find out if you live in an SDV area and how many tuners their adapter supports.

Curious if Cox Phoenix supports more than 2. Of course I called them and they say the adapter just supports one tuner.... did I really expect them to know.

The three tuner option has me seriously considering a Moxi now to replace the continuously poor Navigator IPG, and then I saw that same note.

I don't have the energy to go through clueless TWC service to find out if the adapter supports triple-tuners this week but I'll probably make the effort next week.

Just about everything is more responsive than DirecTV's HR2x DVRs, Moxi and TiVo included.


Does your provider use Motorola or Cisco / SA equipment?

At this time, only Motorola SDV adapters support more than two tuners. Each Cisco SDV adapter supports a maximum of two tuners.

Note this limitation is specific to the Cisco SDV adapter, and would also affect every other OCUR/MOCUR product. That includes Ceton's upcoming 4-tuner CableCard PC tuner, as well as any future, non-tru2way TiVo with 3+ tuners. The only way to get around the limitation is tru2way (which can support SDV without an adapter), and the Moxi doesn't have the hardware or software to support that.

Most likely a simple Q for those of you that have been following...

I have Comcast and Requite the use of a Set Top box...

If I choose the three tuner version of the Moxi unit will that mean that I need to have three set top boxes?

No. The Moxi and TiVo both replace the cable company box. They don't record from the cable box, nor do they interact with the cable box in any way.

You don't need a cable company box unless you want to have a separate box for VOD. No third-party box supports VOD from Comcast.

So the moxi box decodes teh comcast signal?

Right, that's what CableCard products like the Moxi and TiVo do.

If you want cable channels like USA, TNT, and ESPN, you will need Comcast to insert one CableCard in the box. A CableCard is basically an access card that removes the the encryption on those digital channels.

Got it...So the card will remove the encryption and allow all three tuners to get info from comcast without the box.

The CableCARD which your cable operator will (should) provide does the decryption of the signal from your cable provider.

Yes.

Thinking about making the switch...Very difficult to give up my ReplayTVs thought...Commercial skip is a wonderful thing...So is Poopli....Even in SD.

My jaw dropped when I saw the $999 pricing model. That would give me an HD dvr in three rooms! That equates $333 with lifetime per unit.

I could sell my Tivo HD for $500
and my ReplayTV for $100

drooling at the prospects of all HD.

Wait.. no wireless for these units?! That is a deal breaker.

They have a 100Mbps LAN port, which you must use in order to get guide data and support multi-room. [Guide data is downloaded each day from Moxi's Internet servers.] If you can't run a CAT5 network cable to the Moxi, then you can purchase a ethernet->wireless bridge, MoCA adapters, or Powerline AV adapters.

If you only have the Moxi, or the Moxi and one Moxi Mate extender, then you can add wireless capability with a wireless bridge like this. If you plan to use a Moxi and two extenders, and can't run ethernet, then you're probably better off with a MoCA adapter for each device (note this requires that you have a coax connection in each room), plus one for your router.

are you saying moxi can record clear qam? im just interested in recording cbs,fox,nbc,abc,etc so this would work great for me. dont feel like renting a dvr from time warner for $15 a month.

Yes, it can.

Hmmmmm okay I guess Cox Phoenix does use the Cisco adapter from what I'm told so now I wonder if the Moxi would be smart enough to put the SDV recordings on the two tuners that are talking with the adapter or if it would just be a crap shoot. The other question would be can you turn one tuner off for now assuming that a multi-tuner SDV adapter would come along eventually?

Just got real interested at 500 bucks!

I wonder if they will ever have the 3 tuner model by itself for something like 600 bucks? I have zero need for the mate, but could very well use a 3 tuner DVR.

Could have sworn I read a long while ago it was but it seems to say no VOD (by saying it's only a one way communication device) with your MSO and as I understand it, a box even running a third party IPG SHOULD be capable of that???

I just sent Moxi an email asking what becomes of the third in the event you have to attach a dual-tuner adapter. It would be good if it could still tune to non-SDV content.

Would it be possible to use two Cisco SDV adapters, or is Cisco planning to market a multi-tuner adapter?

Yes, it works very well with clear-qam. You can even map the clear-qam channels to the cable assigned channel numbers in the guide. So you don't have to deal with all the decimal channel numbers.