Originally Posted by ferrisnox
I think this is an interesting conversation. Is one product a company produces enough to write off every product they produce? No, look at any car manufacturer sometimes you have hits sometimes misses.
1. Yes Bose is expensive, but you don't consider their speakers without knowing that.
2. This set is not going to win a who can be the loudest contests, but who cares?
3. It is very accurate to my ears, and no this is not my first set of speakers, I have compared directly with my Klipsch's and many of my other speaker setups.
4. They are very favorable compared directly to a Klipsch Promedia 2.1, I think that says a lot.
5. I understand the problem many people have with Bose home theater setups vs. other options but this is not a home theater setup its a 2.1 multimedia setup.
6. One of the best things the Bose does that most other systems can't; is play music at low volumes across the spectrum. My Klipsch needs to be halfway to full volume to get the full sound spectrum out.
I encourage people to try for themselves, but to flat say a product is bad based on what someone else says, based on a completely different product line is stupid.
The engineering compared to say Klipsch Promedia 2.1's is vastly superior, ask anyone with a Klipsch that had to resolder their DIN's or buy a new control pre-amp.
OK, from personal experience. I've owned a Bose Wave radio, you know the one. The one Bose claims 'sounds like a $3000 system'. This was in 1997-98.
The main reason I bought it, second hand, is a buddy of mine was tight for cash and wanted to sell me a 'radio' his parents had given him as a gift. I gave him $200 for it based on my research on ebay showed it to be worth $225-280.
I didn't pay much attention to it for some time, letting my son use it in his room. I've always had a good sound system and wasn't about to use a mere 'radio'.
Well, after getting my son a boom box for Christmas I had the wave radio in the living room. My daugher commented that she thought her boom box sounded better than the Bose. I had her do a 'shootout' between the two, convinced that could not be the case. Well, her $99 boom box didn't beat the Wave Radio, but it didn't lose to it either.
With an admittedly non-scientific test, I had both my kids listening to one or the other without them knowing which was playing at any particular time. Neither could tell which one was playing, hitting fairly close to 50%, what you'd expect in a coin toss sampling, statistically speaking. My son's boom box had very low bass and could be told apart from either of the other two.
I sold the Wave Radio to someone on ebay for $275 a few weeks later. That was my first and last experience with Bose products. I remain unimpressed by their marketing or products. And yes, I've heard the so-called magical 2.1 that sounds like 5.1.
Bose sets up some very elaborate testing areas designed to make the most of what they are marketing. No other company makes demands of the retailer like Bose does. The retailers comply because the profit margins on Bose products are typically higher than on other mass marketed products. So, sure, they sound good when you hear them in the stores. But try to get your cd into the player to audition the Bose stuff. Chances are you will fail. Listen carefully to the taylored sounds you hear. No real high notes, no lows below 150hz.
The Bose sound good in the environment in which you hear them in the stores. They fail miserably when you get them home and expect that low rumbling bass and piercing highs. They are just not going to give you full audio spectrum. Not even for the $s they are asking for the latest Accoustimass reincarnation.
All this is not to say Bose does not have a marketable product, they do as evidenced by how many people buy their products. Just that these products are overpriced and sold to an uninformed buyer. When you hear, in radio and tv ads, that they have the latest greatest sounds, well, as we all know, if you've heard it on tv or read it in the paper, it just has to be true, right?
So, when you come into thes forums and attempt to defend a product, does not matter what that product is, it had better give value for the money. Bose does not give value for their product. They are one of the best when it comes to marketing hype.
Bottom line is this: Do you want to buy from a company that uses the major slice of their budget in advertizing or would you rather spend your money on a company that puts money into R&D to insure the product they put on the market produces what they say it will, and backs that up with actual specifications so the 'informed' buyer knows what to expect with that product?
So, where can I find the published specs on Bose products?