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post #121 of 1868
I got my Nova last night and set it up and listened for an hour or two. Generally I am impressed (see issue below). The built quality is impressive and the unit is quite heavy. The wood finish is flawless as is the very heavy front aluminum face plate. Remote is basic but egonomically acceptable and has a nice rubbery finish. I believe the Decco came with a spare tube for the pre-amp but my Nova did not include one... not a big deal. Also the it would have been nice to include batteries for the remote as almost all electronics include them. I guess some sacrifices had to be made in order to deliver a product this nice for such a low price.

I listened to both internet streams (Rhapsody/Pandora) and FLACs from my PC and both sounded outstanding... MUCH better than the Sonos ZP120 I was using temporarily. I was impressed with my Wharfedale Evo 30s before but now I am very pleased with the match. Highs are holographic and the lows are full and tight. I was affraid that this match would be too laid back but it is just perfect for my ears. I did notice that it took about 20-30 minutes for the unit to warm up and sound it's best. It sounded somewhat constrained at first but after 20 minutes or so it really started to come alive. I am guessing that this warm up period will lessen as the unit breaks in.

1 issue- I have a noticeable buzz in the left channel (can hear clearly from about 2-3 ft from the speaker). I have tried swapping speaker connections, disconnecting the Sonos and plugging the Nova into a different outlet and the buzz stays the same in the left channel only. It stays at the same volume no matter what I set the volume to on the amp. Right channel is practically silent so I think something is wrong with the amp. I will be contacting SignalPath to investigate this issue.
post #122 of 1868
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Originally Posted by ShrinerMonkey View Post

I got my Nova last night and set it up and listened for an hour or two. Generally I am impressed (see issue below). The built quality is impressive and the unit is quite heavy. The wood finish is flawless as is the very heavy front aluminum face plate. Remote is basic but egonomically acceptable and has a nice rubbery finish. I believe the Decco came with a spare tube for the pre-amp but my Nova did not include one... not a big deal. Also the it would have been nice to include batteries for the remote as almost all electronics include them. I guess some sacrifices had to be made in order to deliver a product this nice for such a low price.

I listened to both internet streams (Rhapsody/Pandora) and FLACs from my PC and both sounded outstanding... MUCH better than the Sonos ZP120 I was using temporarily. I was impressed with my Wharfedale Evo 30s before but now I am very pleased with the match. Highs are holographic and the lows are full and tight. I was affraid that this match would be too laid back but it is just perfect for my ears. I did notice that it took about 20-30 minutes for the unit to warm up and sound it's best. It sounded somewhat constrained at first but after 20 minutes or so it really started to come alive. I am guessing that this warm up period will lessen as the unit breaks in.

1 issue- I have a noticeable buzz in the left channel (can hear clearly from about 2-3 ft from the speaker). I have tried swapping speaker connections, disconnecting the Sonos and plugging the Nova into a different outlet and the buzz stays the same in the left channel only. It stays at the same volume no matter what I set the volume to on the amp. Right channel is practically silent so I think something is wrong with the amp. I will be contacting SignalPath to investigate this issue.

Thanks for the review and sorry for the buzz. That stinks and puts a damper on things. No spare tube or batteries I would have paid (and I'm sure most of us here) the incremental $ for the convenience. Mistake to not include IMO.

Warming up -- I've read that it may take up to 40 minutes but after repeated use you are good. We'll see!

Mine should be in a week or two. BTW, you mentioned the fit and finish to be very good but what color did you order?
post #123 of 1868
I got the rosewood finish. It looks really great sitting on my vintage 1960's rosewood buffet next to my rosewood Wharedales. After listening again last night the buzz is not as loud as I thought. You need to be about 1ft or so from the speaker to hear it and obviously you can't hear it at all when listening to music and sitting 8 feet from the speakers. I can probably live with it but I expect a somewhat high dollar item to be perfect.

P.S.- This is my first system that has a tube and I am really digging watching the tube glow fade in an out when the unit power cycles. Gotta love that tube bling.
post #124 of 1868
Hi, a couple of AVS posters have referred to comments about the Nova on other sites. Could someone possibly post the link(s) to the other Nova review thread(s)? Thanks!
post #125 of 1868
Question. Did any of you new Nova owners own a Decco previously? And if so, can you tell me if there is a NOTICEABLE difference in sound? Could you pick the Nova in a blind test?
post #126 of 1868
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Originally Posted by ShrinerMonkey View Post

I got the rosewood finish. It looks really great sitting on my vintage 1960's rosewood buffet next to my rosewood Wharedales. After listening again last night the buzz is not as loud as I thought. You need to be about 1ft or so from the speaker to hear it and obviously you can't hear it at all when listening to music and sitting 8 feet from the speakers. I can probably live with it but I expect a somewhat high dollar item to be perfect.

P.S.- This is my first system that has a tube and I am really digging watching the tube glow fade in an out when the unit power cycles. Gotta love that tube bling.

Thanks for the kind comments, Monkey. David Solomon is my partner and I work in International sales and the development side of Peachtree Audio. I'm curious about that buzz. Like most amplified HiFi components you can hear a slight buzz if the Nova's volume is turned way up and your ear is against the speaker. But if that buzz is pronounced at a foot away even at moderate volumes then of course something else is going on. (1) see if you hear the buzz with more than one source. Are you using a digital source? (2) try a different electrical outlet. I'll never forget trouble shooting a buzz with a Musical Fidelity customer years ago. We finally figured out he was on the same circuit with a 20 year old light dimmer that was a noisy nightmare. So crazy things happen sometimes.

Glad you like the Nova, but sorry you've run in to this problem. If we don't come up with an easy solution please know we'll take care of you. David's in the middle of another road trip so he may be a little late chiming in. I look forward to reading more of your comments.
post #127 of 1868
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Originally Posted by ShrinerMonkey View Post

I got the rosewood finish. It looks really great sitting on my vintage 1960's rosewood buffet next to my rosewood Wharedales. After listening again last night the buzz is not as loud as I thought. You need to be about 1ft or so from the speaker to hear it and obviously you can't hear it at all when listening to music and sitting 8 feet from the speakers. I can probably live with it but I expect a somewhat high dollar item to be perfect.

P.S.- This is my first system that has a tube and I am really digging watching the tube glow fade in an out when the unit power cycles. Gotta love that tube bling.

I ordered rosewood too, will match nicely with my D4s in my library/office with rosewood bookshelves. :-) The cherry looks amazing as well. The wait is killing me!!

Maybe the buzz is from your wires or interference from other electronics nearby?
post #128 of 1868
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Originally Posted by signal path jim View Post

Thanks for the kind comments, Monkey. David Solomon is my partner and I work in International sales and the development side of Peachtree Audio. I'm curious about that buzz. Like most amplified HiFi components you can hear a slight buzz if the Nova's volume is turned way up and your ear is against the speaker. But if that buzz is pronounced at a foot away even at moderate volumes then of course something else is going on. (1) see if you hear the buzz with more than one source. Are you using a digital source? (2) try a different electrical outlet. I'll never forget trouble shooting a buzz with a Musical Fidelity customer years ago. We finally figured out he was on the same circuit with a 20 year old light dimmer that was a noisy nightmare. So crazy things happen sometimes.

Glad you like the Nova, but sorry you've run in to this problem. If we don't come up with an easy solution please know we'll take care of you. David's in the middle of another road trip so he may be a little late chiming in. I look forward to reading more of your comments.

I have tried a different electrical outlet and tried unplugging my sole source (Sonos ZP90), I have also switched the speaker wires/speakers all to no affect. The buzz remains at the same volume regardless of the amplifier volume and I don't hear it in the headphones that I tried this morning. The only thing I haven't tried is moving the Nova to a different room to see if that has any effect. I will also try some different speakers to see if that changes anything. The left channel buzz is not really lound but seems so as the right channel is dead silent even with my ear right next to the speaker.

P.S. I listened for about 3 hours last night... I had other things to do but I couldn't tear myself away from this thing. The lows in particular are to die for, quick, tight and full.
post #129 of 1868
Most 110v recepticals are all wired together either by different rooms or entire parts of the home. So, just because you move to a different recept. doesn't mean that you are on a different circuit and the possible source of noise is still present. Try moving to another room across the house somewhere and testing again.
post #130 of 1868
A real newbie question: I am thinking of using this as my main stereo amp for CD's, ipod, etc. and also for home theater use, i.e., for Blu-rays etc. I am not interested in having more than two channels, so HT receivers hold no interest for me. I am concerned about the potential for audio and video to get out of synch when watching DVD's and Blu-rays. Is this a legit concern? Putting it another way: is it any more of a concern than running the analog audio out of the BD player through my current (old) stereo? In the latter case, I have never had a problem, but I note that when my Moxi DVR does D/A conversions I sometimes get A/V out of synch. I admit that I can't tell if the original source from my cable company was in synch in those cases.
post #131 of 1868
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Originally Posted by kwkshift View Post

Most 110v recepticals are all wired together either by different rooms or entire parts of the home. So, just because you move to a different recept. doesn't mean that you are on a different circuit and the possible source of noise is still present. Try moving to another room across the house somewhere and testing again.

I know it is a different circuit because I used a kitchen outlet which is required to be a diff circuit from the livingroom.
post #132 of 1868
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Originally Posted by rwinner View Post

A real newbie question: I am thinking of using this as my main stereo amp for CD's, ipod, etc. and also for home theater use, i.e., for Blu-rays etc. I am not interested in having more than two channels, so HT receivers hold no interest for me. I am concerned about the potential for audio and video to get out of synch when watching DVD's and Blu-rays. Is this a legit concern? Putting it another way: is it any more of a concern than running the analog audio out of the BD player through my current (old) stereo? In the latter case, I have never had a problem, but I note that when my Moxi DVR does D/A conversions I sometimes get A/V out of synch. I admit that I can't tell if the original source from my cable company was in synch in those cases.

AV receivers do include the feature that allows you to manually tweak the lip sync but I have never had to use this feature. I doubt this would ever be an issue. Broadcast TV is a terrible reference for lip sync as I have noticed that they are terrible at getting sound correct. 90% of the time picture and sound issues with broadcast sources are with the provider or broadcaster and not the AV components on the consumer end.
post #133 of 1868
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Originally Posted by SWDeveloperDave View Post

I'd rather not leave a unit in standby mode, soaking up power, draining my wallet, so that it will sound good for the hour or two of listening I may have. The question still seems open... Does this initial hour of warmup need to happen when you first get the device, or every time you turn it on, ad infinitum... ? Was this a characteristic of the Decco too? Is the warmup just a characteristic of the tube needing to get hot?

Sorry I've been out of touch on the forum. Seems as though I'm on the road more and more.
I've found that the Nova should run for a good 72 hours for initial burn in. The unit gets much smoother in the high-end region and the bass tightens up.
I do like leaving it on stand-by as opposed to turning the unit off. You'll find many DAC's are in this boat as they are high resolution and cold boards sound different than warm boards.
The Nova is no exception.
Hope this helps,
David Solomon
post #134 of 1868
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Originally Posted by ShrinerMonkey View Post

I know it is a different circuit because I used a kitchen outlet which is required to be a diff circuit from the livingroom.

Hi,
Please give us a call and we'll exchange the unit for you. You should have no buzz in either channel.
Best wishes,
David Solomon
dsolomon@signalpathint.com
post #135 of 1868
FYI...The Nova draws less than 1 watt in standby by utilizing a separate transformer just for that purpose. We also qualify for the EU RoHS standards for non-hazardous metals, and our most of our veneers are purchased from Danzer, a German supplier who has offices in China and offers products that meet ISO:14001:2004 Our packing material is more expensive than styrofoam but it's recyclable.

it's 2009.....gotta be responsible.
post #136 of 1868
I'm eager to order a Nova in cherry, but I haven't seen it available in this finish anywhere (not that I've looked everywhere). Has anyone some info on when this would become available?

Thx.
post #137 of 1868
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Originally Posted by pipettor View Post

I'm eager to order a Nova in cherry, but I haven't seen it available in this finish anywhere (not that I've looked everywhere). Has anyone some info on when this would become available?

Thx.

Hi pipettor,
The Cherry has not suffered froma shortage. We've filled most every order to dealers and on-line. We are however having a shortage of Rosewood and will be 4-6 weeks before we have any to ship.
Hope this helps,
David
PS: Write me w/ your location and I'll see if I can help, okay?
dsolomon@signalpathint.com
post #138 of 1868
I have had my Cherry Nova in my system for the past 4 weeks and I couldn't be happier!
I went to the Stereo Exchange in New York City for a Demo Night. It was nice they had many of their Top Vendors talking about their products and showing off what they can do. I went specifically because I was told David Solomon from signalpath/peachtree audio was going to demo the Nova. After a few hours of the event and talking with David I walked up to my sales guy and bought the Nova...I lucked out, they had 2 Cherry in stock! David was the nicest guy, He knows his hi-end audio, product design and has a great vision for his small company. (Look out big audio company guys!)

I have the B&W n805 speakers (in Cherry) and before the Demo event I was thinking that 80W would not be enough power to drive my speakers. I was wrong this little AMP had no problem at all pushing my speakers through the paces. Once I got the Nova setup in my system, I left it running over the weekend to insure a nice burn in.
I love the fact that the Nova has so many inputs. I'm able to A/B test the DAC with the digital inputs and the same source into the Analog inputs. It was great for me to hear how much better a hi-end DAC can make my digital sources sound. Its also fun to be able to switch the Tube section of the preamp on an off by the Nova's remote. Its nice to have such tweaking flexibility as I learned what sounded best with my sources in my system.

My Nova now has a Sony SACD player, HD am/fm radio tuner and Logitech Squeezebox playing Lossless music files off my NAS all into the DACs Digital input section. For my Analog section I have a Music Hall turntable through a Musical Fidelity X-LPS Phone Pre Amp in the Nova's Aux input.

At $1200 this is a Steal of a deal. the build quality is well above this price point and the sound quality is at least 2 times over this retail price. This will be in my system for many years to come!
If your on the fence about the Nova, go to a local retailer and listen!
you wont be able to find the same combo anywhere near this price point.
post #139 of 1868
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Originally Posted by editmm View Post

I have had my Cherry Nova in my system for the past 4 weeks and I couldn't be happier!
I went to the Stereo Exchange in New York City for a Demo Night. It was nice they had many of their Top Vendors talking about their products and showing off what they can do. I went specifically because I was told David Solomon from signalpath/peachtree audio was going to demo the Nova. After a few hours of the event and talking with David I walked up to my sales guy and bought the Nova...I lucked out, they had 2 Cherry in stock! David was the nicest guy, He knows his hi-end audio, product design and has a great vision for his small company. (Look out big audio company guys!)

I have the B&W n805 speakers (in Cherry) and before the Demo event I was thinking that 80W would not be enough power to drive my speakers. I was wrong this little AMP had no problem at all pushing my speakers through the paces. Once I got the Nova setup in my system, I left it running over the weekend to insure a nice burn in.
I love the fact that the Nova has so many inputs. I'm able to A/B test the DAC with the digital inputs and the same source into the Analog inputs. It was great for me to hear how much better a hi-end DAC can make my digital sources sound. Its also fun to be able to switch the Tube section of the preamp on an off by the Nova's remote. Its nice to have such tweaking flexibility as I learned what sounded best with my sources in my system.

My Nova now has a Sony SACD player, HD am/fm radio tuner and Logitech Squeezebox playing Lossless music files off my NAS all into the DACs Digital input section. For my Analog section I have a Music Hall turntable through a Musical Fidelity X-LPS Phone Pre Amp in the Nova's Aux input.

At $1200 this is a Steal of a deal. the build quality is well above this price point and the sound quality is at least 2 times over this retail price. This will be in my system for many years to come!
If your on the fence about the Nova, go to a local retailer and listen!
you wont be able to find the same combo anywhere near this price point.

It's good to hear that about your n805's with the Nova. I will be testing the Nova with some new 805s that I am also looking at. I figure that 80W would be good, especially given David's comment about them specifically earlier in the thread. If the 2 go well together, I'll be picking up the pair. I'm also interested in hearing how good the headphone out is, so I'll bring some quality cans along as well.

Jeff
post #140 of 1868
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Originally Posted by bumboola View Post

David, any plans for a smaller integrated amp/dac combo? The current units are too large for desktop use and with a smaller footprint you could tap into a greater audience of computer audiophiles.

I second this request. I'm currently using a Squeezebox and half-rack-width Z-stuff from Parasound in my desktop audio setup. I'd seriously consider a Nova, but it won't fit in my shelf unit with 12" wide spacing, and I don't have room for a wider shelf unit. I'd settle for a DAC/preamp/headphone amp and a separate power amp.

P.S. The Sonos slot is a complete waste of space for my situation. That could be the first thing to sacrifice.
post #141 of 1868
hi guys, the Nova looks like the perfect item for my upcoming 2-channel / home theather setup as power/pre to drive my fronts (likely focal 1027S or Be) and as DAC for 2-channel cd from the Oppo BD83 blue-ray.

Any idea if the Nova DAC will be a significan upgrade to 2 channel analog cd performance of the Oppo Blue-ray?
And how will it work with the Focal 1027 which are fairly easyly driven, but may be a bit on the bright side. Hope the tube pre would make it a good match.

Finally, is the a 220/240V version available and can it be shipped to Singapore?
post #142 of 1868
I'm curious about the DAC spec - I've seen it listed as 24/192 upsampling on some dealer websites, and even in the PDF file that David Solomon posted at the beginning of this thread. But the Peachtree website now says it's 24/96, so I'm assuming that's authoritative.
When and why did the spec change? Any plans for a 24/192 upsampling DAC in the future? What about a NON oversampling DAC? (some people prefer those.)
post #143 of 1868
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Originally Posted by lightbox View Post

I second this request. I'm currently using a Squeezebox and half-rack-width Z-stuff from Parasound in my desktop audio setup. I'd seriously consider a Nova, but it won't fit in my shelf unit with 12" wide spacing, and I don't have room for a wider shelf unit. I'd settle for a DAC/preamp/headphone amp and a separate power amp.

P.S. The Sonos slot is a complete waste of space for my situation. That could be the first thing to sacrifice.


I'll answer for David while he's on vacation.

We've considered doing something smaller. We talked about making an in-line USB dac and/or a stand alone DAC with multiple digital inputs that could be coupled with powered monitors that come with a remote control.. In both cases it would take up a lot less space.

If enough consumers and dealers want it.... we'll do it.
post #144 of 1868
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Originally Posted by MrBerwell View Post

I'm curious about the DAC spec - I've seen it listed as 24/192 upsampling on some dealer websites, and even in the PDF file that David Solomon posted at the beginning of this thread. But the Peachtree website now says it's 24/96, so I'm assuming that's authoritative.
When and why did the spec change? Any plans for a 24/192 upsampling DAC in the future? What about a NON oversampling DAC? (some people prefer those.)

let me give this a shot.

The Nova's DAC is 24/96. There was initially some confusion because the Sabre DAC we use is capable of 24/192 but only when using a receiving chip for the SPDIF inputs. But we found out that if you go directly in to the Sabre DAC like we do and not use a receiving chip it sounds better. However that means it isn't capable of 24/192. One thing to keep in mind in the 24/96 vs. 24/192 discussions. You can only hear a positive difference between the two when using audio content that is actually streaming at 24/192; and since less than 1/10th of 1% of all recorded music is at that resolution we decided to utilize the direct 24/96 circuit for better sound on a wider variety of available recordings. If you are upsampling a redbook cd to 24/96 or 24/192 there is virtually no difference on most DACs that are capable of both resolutions. The general quality of the DAC is much more important. I know this must sound confusing but there is a logical reason why we chose 24/96 instead of playing the numbers game.
post #145 of 1868
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Originally Posted by daneinsg View Post

hi guys, the Nova looks like the perfect item for my upcoming 2-channel / home theather setup as power/pre to drive my fronts (likely focal 1027S or Be) and as DAC for 2-channel cd from the Oppo BD83 blue-ray.

Any idea if the Nova DAC will be a significan upgrade to 2 channel analog cd performance of the Oppo Blue-ray?
And how will it work with the Focal 1027 which are fairly easyly driven, but may be a bit on the bright side. Hope the tube pre would make it a good match.

Finally, is the a 220/240V version available and can it be shipped to Singapore?

I don't own the Nova, but I do own a Decco which is connected to an Oppo BD83. I realize that the Nova and Decco have completely different DACs, so this pertains more to the analog output on the Oppo. I switched back and forth between coaxial and the 2 channel analog input on the Decco. The biggest difference I noted was the volume was louder when using the analog outputs on the Oppo. Both inputs sound good, but I slightly prefer the analog output on the Oppo as opposed to using coaxial with the Decco. This also leaves the coaxial input on the Decco available for my squeezebox. I felt that the analog outputs were a little warmer and fuller, but that may be due to the difference in volume between both inputs. Again, the Nova is completely different, but I am under the impression that the preamp is similar to the Decco. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
post #146 of 1868
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Originally Posted by daneinsg View Post

hi guys, the Nova looks like the perfect item for my upcoming 2-channel / home theather setup as power/pre to drive my fronts (likely focal 1027S or Be) and as DAC for 2-channel cd from the Oppo BD83 blue-ray.

Any idea if the Nova DAC will be a significan upgrade to 2 channel analog cd performance of the Oppo Blue-ray?
And how will it work with the Focal 1027 which are fairly easyly driven, but may be a bit on the bright side. Hope the tube pre would make it a good match.

Finally, is the a 220/240V version available and can it be shipped to Singapore?

I had my Nova shipped to me in Singapore, and I must say I love it! It plays really nice with my B&W 804s and matches them in the Cherry finish. Dane, the power supply is switchable to 220/240v so no worries there.

Now if I can only get my Airport Express optical output to stop cutting in and out...
post #147 of 1868
I have a new Nova on the way and I was wondering if the Nova would drive Magnepan MMG speakers. I have been VERY curious about those speakers but here they are hard to drive. I know the Nova is 80wpc but I assume that is into an 8 Ohm load. What about into a 4 Ohm Load?
post #148 of 1868
I've heard the Nova driving the 1.6's and it was flat-out amazing. I too have a Nova on order and am planning on the MMGs with an eventual upgrade to the 1.6's
post #149 of 1868
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Originally Posted by johsti View Post

The biggest difference I noted was the volume was louder when using the analog outputs on the Oppo. Both inputs sound good, but I slightly prefer the analog output on the Oppo as opposed to using coaxial with the Decco. This also leaves the coaxial input on the Decco available for my squeezebox. I felt that the analog outputs were a little warmer and fuller, but that may be due to the difference in volume between both inputs.

9 times out of 10, people will perceive the louder input as sounding "better", which is why it's important to try and match volumes as closely as possible when doing a/b comparisons.

I'd love to hear from anyone who's done their own shootout of the Nova's DAC with any other well known DAC. Also, some critical reviews of it's headphone amp.
post #150 of 1868
I just got my Nova in piano black a few days ago. Sadly, my good speakers (Neo-2x) are being worked on and I won't see them for another few days, so I really can't comment on the quality of the equipment yet...

Anyway, my question is what is meant by 'standby mode'. Does that just mean you're keeping the unit running (i.e. if its on USB input, that blue light stays on). Or is standby when the power button is red (I assume this just means it's off).

I'm burning in the amp around the clock so it makes no difference now. I assume standby just means to keep the input on but if I'm wrong, would someone please let me know?

Thanks,
Ray
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