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post #1531 of 1868
1/16/12 at 8:27am
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

You mean your "dedicated 2-channel system" shares a room and front L and R speakers with your 5.1 system?

Yeah Kinda at a dilemma here, my onkyo 608 does not have a decent phono input or true analog passthrough or pre-amps out, so my idea was to add a better integrated amp for two channel only- better dac, sound etc for my touch and later add a turntable, actually was looking at a marantz SR series also
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post #1532 of 1868
1/16/12 at 9:26am
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Originally Posted by c-eling View Post

Yeah Kinda at a dilemma here, my onkyo 608 does not have a decent phono input or true analog passthrough or pre-amps out, so my idea was to add a better integrated amp for two channel only- better dac, sound etc for my touch and later add a turntable, actually was looking at a marantz SR series also

Personally, for your situation, instead of the Nova, I would look into upgrading your 608 with a high-end AVR - something like the Marantz SR-7005, Denon AVR-4311, or Pioneer Elite SC-57 would be a big step up.

Any of the above units is going to have lots of power with ample reserves (more than the Nova), high quality DAC's, all the digital and analog inputs you need (including built-in phono inputs), and of course, auto EQ/room calibration.

I have a 2 year-old Pioneer Elite SC-25 running my 5.1 system and it sounds amazing with 2-channel music. Those Class D amps are really something special and the Wolfson 8471 based DAC performs very well.

I got the Nova because I wanted a separate 2-channel system in another room primarily for headphone listening (with some speaker listening too). If it wasn't for that desire, I wouldn't hesitate to use my Pioneer for all of my listening.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Nova and think it's a good performer. If you get one, you won't be disappointed. I just don't think it performs significantly better than the above units for 2-channel listening (OK, the Nova's DAC and headphone jack are better).
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post #1533 of 1868
1/18/12 at 10:40am
Thanks again for the tips palmfish, been doing some research on that pioneer elite, nice avr
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post #1534 of 1868
1/18/12 at 10:48am
Can someone explain me why its important to have a digital connector between the nova/decco and the ipod?

I understand that we want to pass the internal dac of the ipod, but couldn't you get the same benefit simply by connecting an apple tv device via digital cable? I would assume that Airplay passes digital signal anyway no?
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post #1535 of 1868
1/18/12 at 10:57am
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Originally Posted by talk View Post

Can someone explain me why its important to have a digital connector between the nova/decco and the ipod?

I understand that we want to pass the internal dac of the ipod, but couldn't you get the same benefit simply by connecting an apple tv device via digital cable? I would assume that Airplay passes digital signal anyway no?

It's important if your habit is to feed music from your ipod or iphone to your stereo. I don't do it, but I know a lot of people who do. They're familiar with how their ipods function, and it works well, so this is how they do it. Now they can do it and have improved sound by using the direct connection to the DAC in the iNova and iDecco, etc.

Otherwise, yeah, through an express or Apple TV you can get about the same results, if that's how you want to do it.

I've been using the express this way for years, and recently ran a boosted usb cable through the crawl and to my media cabinet, through a bridge, and into the Nova coax input. I'm using Decibel as my player, which sounds better than iTunes, in my opinion. Plus it can handle 24/96 files, which iTunes can't currently do via the express or Apple TV.
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post #1536 of 1868
1/18/12 at 3:29pm
So looks like I need your help making a decision.
I am looking to setup a small and high quality music setup next to my computer (macbook air).

I have considered the Focal XS initially, as well as the B&W MM1. I was able to demo the B&W, but wasn't able to find the Focals anywhere. During my research, I actually decided that maybe a "real" setup with passive would be better than picking something which I will want to upgrade shortly after.

I am willing to spend up to $1500 (but will surly like to spend less), which way would you recommend?

Since I'll need to buy DAC, Amp and Speakers, I decided to go for all-in-one solution. Therefore, Wadia and Peachtree have been my top choices.

I can buy the Wadia 151 for $800, which would leave ~$700 for a set of speakers. What I don't like about the Wadia is the fact that it does not have an headphone jack, nor does it come with an ipod doc. The doc is not mandatory, but its a nice perk

For the same price I can also buy the iDecco, which seems to provide the two missing pieces, and from what I saw it got great reviews overall.

Finally, there's also the Peachtree MusicBox, which is $600. Other than the cheaper cost, the MusicBox has a smaller footprint which is a positive. However, it appears that it has a weaker amp / components, so I am heaving hard time deciding if the $200 in saving is a good tradeoff.

I thought that I could put the extra $ into the speakers, but than again, I am not sure if pairing the MusicBox with better speakers actually makes sense given its lower output. As a result, a better path might be to buy the decco2 for $600 (same as the musicbox), and rather than use the dock, I can simply connect an AppleTV device and stream my ipod/iphone music.

So what do you think?
Decco2/Music Box - $600
iDecco / Wadia 151 - $800

Keep in mind that I'll be using it in a near field setting, with bookshelf speakers.
Do you think it's worth the extra $200 to have the physical doc? Will it actually sound better connected vs streaming audio via airplay? Otherwise, I think that the Decco2 offers the best bang for the buck, and my understanding that it is exactly the same device as the iDecco (minus the ipod dock).

If however the dock provides a better interface than airplay, than I'll probably do the iDecco, unless you think that the Music Box will be more than powerful enough to power a great set of bookshelf speakers.

Finally there's the question of the Wadia, but after reading the 6moons review of the iDecco, its doesn't seem to make much sense to get the 151.

I'd also appreciate hearing which speakers would be a good choice to compliment the setup. (I heard the KEF R100, and was blown away by it).

Thank you for your help and assistance.
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post #1537 of 1868
1/18/12 at 4:07pm
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Originally Posted by talk View Post

So looks like I need your help making a decision.
I am looking to setup a small and high quality music setup next to my computer (macbook air).

I have considered the Focal XS initially, as well as the B&W MM1. I was able to demo the B&W, but wasn't able to find the Focals anywhere. During my research, I actually decided that maybe a "real" setup with passive would be better than picking something which I will want to upgrade shortly after.

I am willing to spend up to $1500 (but will surly like to spend less), which way would you recommend?

Since I'll need to buy DAC, Amp and Speakers, I decided to go for all-in-one solution. Therefore, Wadia and Peachtree have been my top choices.

I can buy the Wadia 151 for $800, which would leave ~$700 for a set of speakers. What I don't like about the Wadia is the fact that it does not have an headphone jack, nor does it come with an ipod doc. The doc is not mandatory, but its a nice perk

For the same price I can also buy the iDecco, which seems to provide the two missing pieces, and from what I saw it got great reviews overall.

Finally, there's also the Peachtree MusicBox, which is $600. Other than the cheaper cost, the MusicBox has a smaller footprint which is a positive. However, it appears that it has a weaker amp / components, so I am heaving hard time deciding if the $200 in saving is a good tradeoff.

I thought that I could put the extra $ into the speakers, but than again, I am not sure if pairing the MusicBox with better speakers actually makes sense given its lower output. As a result, a better path might be to buy the decco2 for $600 (same as the musicbox), and rather than use the dock, I can simply connect an AppleTV device and stream my ipod/iphone music.

So what do you think?
Decco2/Music Box - $600
iDecco / Wadia 151 - $800

Keep in mind that I'll be using it in a near field setting, with bookshelf speakers.
Do you think it's worth the extra $200 to have the physical doc? Will it actually sound better connected vs streaming audio via airplay? Otherwise, I think that the Decco2 offers the best bang for the buck, and my understanding that it is exactly the same device as the iDecco (minus the ipod dock).

If however the dock provides a better interface than airplay, than I'll probably do the iDecco, unless you think that the Music Box will be more than powerful enough to power a great set of bookshelf speakers.

Finally there's the question of the Wadia, but after reading the 6moons review of the iDecco, its doesn't seem to make much sense to get the 151.

I'd also appreciate hearing which speakers would be a good choice to compliment the setup. (I heard the KEF R100, and was blown away by it).

Thank you for your help and assistance.


I have a couple of questions. If you're setting up next to your Air, why are you wanting to stream via an Apple TV? Will a cable just not work because of location even though the two are close together?

Also, do you already have the Apple TV?
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post #1538 of 1868
1/18/12 at 4:16pm
When playing from my laptop I will use the USB or Optical cable to play.

The ipod playing is ment more for my wife. I want to make it easy for her to play music even when I am away with the laptop.

To be honest, I don't think that we'll play music from the ipod/iphone initially, but if we'll decide that its needed, I'll then connect an apple TV, and she'll be be able to stream it from her iphone/ipod.

Usability wise, I think that this is more convenient because selecting songs is much easier when the ipod is in your hand vs using either of these devices remote.

I do have an apple TV but it is currently working in a different room. It's true that I should consider the additional cost of a second device which is $99.

I just want to confirm that I'm not going to sacrifice performance, nor that I was stupid for not getting the ipod dock.
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post #1539 of 1868
1/18/12 at 4:28pm
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Originally Posted by talk View Post

When playing from my laptop I will use the USB or Optical cable to play.

The ipod playing is ment more for my wife. I want to make it easy for her to play music even when I am away with the laptop.

To be honest, I don't think that we'll play music from the ipod/iphone initially, but if we'll decide that its needed, I'll then connect an apple TV, and she'll be be able to stream it from her iphone/ipod.

Usability wise, I think that this is more convenient because selecting songs is much easier when the ipod is in your hand vs using either of these devices remote.

I do have an apple TV but it is currently working in a different room. It's true that I should consider the additional cost of a second device which is $99.

I just want to confirm that I'm not going to sacrifice performance, nor that I was stupid for not getting the ipod dock.

I see. That makes sense.

I haven't heard or read about sonic differences between using the dock and streaming via an express or Apple TV. So I can't answer that one, but if you want to check out better sound quality, you might want to consider demoing Decibel. It's cheap at $33. (I think) There's a 48 hour free demo period (IIRC) It taps into your iTunes library. Can play 24/96 files. Sends the signal through usb. And I can vouch for the sonic improvement. I've been streaming from iTunes to both an express and an Apple TV for years. Decibel just sounds better.
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post #1540 of 1868
1/18/12 at 4:34pm
Sounds good. I will check it out, but first I need to setup my hardware...
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post #1541 of 1868
1/18/12 at 5:26pm
If you are going to stream and use USB from your computer, then I think the dock is a waste of money. Get the Decco2.

As for 24/96 capability, I suppose it depends on a few conditions: 1. Can your speakers reproduce frequencies above 20 kHz? 2. Can you hear frequencies above 20 kHz? 3. Do you have a large collection of DVD-A audio files and/or 24/96 downloads?

Personally, I can't hear tones above 15 kHz (I'm 45 years-old) and cannot tell the difference between 96 kHz and 44.1 kHz files of the same recording. For a mid-fi desktop system, I don't think it's worth worrying about 96 kHz sample rate capability.
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post #1542 of 1868
1/18/12 at 6:01pm
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

If you are going to stream and use USB from your computer, then I think the dock is a waste of money. Get the Decco2.

As for 24/96 capability, I suppose it depends on a few conditions: 1. Can your speakers reproduce frequencies above 20 kHz? 2. Can you hear frequencies above 20 kHz? 3. Do you have a large collection of DVD-A audio files and/or 24/96 downloads?

Personally, I can't hear tones above 15 kHz (I'm 45 years-old) and cannot tell the difference between 96 kHz and 44.1 kHz files of the same recording. For a mid-fi desktop system, I don't think it's worth worrying about 96 kHz sample rate capability.

I agree. I don't think that its worth the extra $200 to have the dock (so idecco is out), and since the quality of the decco2 > MusicBox and their price is the same, it seems that musicbox is out as well (its only benefit is its size, but I can live with a bit bigger device).

Your question regarding the 24/96 is to help decide between the Wadia and decco2?

I do have some files, but honestly, given that I have never played them, nor did I pick speakers yet, I have no way of knowing how noticeable the difference would be.
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post #1543 of 1868
1/18/12 at 6:04pm
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Originally Posted by talk View Post

I agree. I don't think that its worth the extra $200 to have the dock (so idecco is out), and since the quality of the decco2 > MusicBox and their price is the same, it seems that musicbox is out as well (its only benefit is its size, but I can live with a bit bigger device).

Your question regarding the 24/96 is to help decide between the Wadia and decco2?

I do have some files, but honestly, given that I have never played them, nor did I pick speakers yet, I have no way of knowing how noticeable the difference would be.

Actually disregard my last comments about sampling rate. I was thinking that the Decco2 USB input was limited to 44.1 kHz but that is incorrect. It is fully 24/96 - same as the coax and optical inputs.

So the biggest difference between the Wadia and Decco2 seems to be the Wadia does 24/192 (who cares?) and the Peachtree has more inputs (including analog inputs) and a headphone jack.
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post #1544 of 1868
1/18/12 at 6:44pm
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

Actually disregard my last comments about sampling rate. I was thinking that the Decco2 USB input was limited to 44.1 kHz but that is incorrect. It is fully 24/96 - same as the coax and optical inputs.

So the biggest difference between the Wadia and Decco2 seems to be the Wadia does 24/192 (who cares?) and the Peachtree has more inputs (including analog inputs) and a headphone jack.

But the Wadia is 75-watt/4ohm PWM and has a significantly smaller footprint than the Decco2.

What bookshelf speakers would you pair with the Decco2, so that its low power won't be an issue?
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post #1545 of 1868
1/18/12 at 7:04pm
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Originally Posted by talk View Post

But the Wadia is 75-watt/4ohm PWM and has a significantly smaller footprint than the Decco2.

What bookshelf speakers would you pair with the Decco2, so that its low power won't be an issue?

That 75 WPC rating is into 4 Ohms. I really wouldn't recommend pairing either the Wadia or Peachtree with such low impedance speakers (I doubt if any desktop speakers like that even exist). Here are the numbers you should use to compare amp power:

Wadia - 50 WPC into 8Ω

Decco2 - 30 WPC into 8Ω

Neither one is a powerhouse, but for nearfield listening with small desktop speakers, both should have more than enough power.

Also, it appears that the Decco2 isn't sold a la carte - only bundled with speakers. I have no idea if the speakers in the bundle are any good, and recommending specific speakers is not practical (it's too personal of a decision).

Generally, you should look for speakers rated at 8Ω and of high sensitivity (say around 90 dB and above). That's really oversimplified so you should maybe read up on it some more if you aren't familiar with impedance and sensitivity ratings.
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post #1546 of 1868
1/18/12 at 7:38pm
The decco2 can be bought solo on Crutchfield.

The spec on the KEF R100 which I really liked are: 8 ohm impedance with 86dB Harmonic distortion. It requires 25W-100W amp. Wouldn't that be too much for the decco? Is there a different alternative? I'd really like to keep the foot print of the devices on my computer desk to minimum, and the decco2 is BIG.
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post #1547 of 1868
1/18/12 at 8:05pm
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Originally Posted by talk View Post

The decco2 can be bought solo on Crutchfield.

The spec on the KEF R100 which I really liked are: 8 ohm impedance with 86dB Harmonic distortion. It requires 25W-100W amp. Wouldn't that be too much for the decco? Is there a different alternative? I'd really like to keep the foot print of the devices on my computer desk to minimum, and the decco2 is BIG.

I didn't know Crutchfield had them. $599 is very reasonable for all the features and performance of the Decco2 - the DAC alone is worth almost that much in my opinion, and the headphone amp is the real deal.

It is big though - no doubt.

Have you look at NuForce? They have some nice stuff...

You could also consider getting a standalone Preamp/DAC and powered speakers.

A Centrance DACmini and a pair of Mackie's would outperform most desktop systems.

You have a lot of options...
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post #1548 of 1868
1/19/12 at 11:16am
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

I didn't know Crutchfield had them. $599 is very reasonable for all the features and performance of the Decco2 - the DAC alone is worth almost that much in my opinion, and the headphone amp is the real deal.

It is big though - no doubt.

Have you look at NuForce? They have some nice stuff...

You could also consider getting a standalone Preamp/DAC and powered speakers.

A Centrance DACmini and a pair of Mackie's would outperform most desktop systems.

You have a lot of options...

The paradox of choice. I was trying to avoid it, but I think that I might need to "reset" my thinking.

Therefore, i'll probably just start a new thread asking for a recommended setup for a 2.0 computer system for up to $1500. Thanks for your help!
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post #1549 of 1868
1/19/12 at 4:07pm
Have the Grand Pre and Grand Integrated shipped yet ? I haven't been able to find any user reviews on these components...just press releases and show sightings (RMAF, CES).
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post #1550 of 1868
1/20/12 at 6:03am
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Originally Posted by g.kang View Post

Have the Grand Pre and Grand Integrated shipped yet ? I haven't been able to find any user reviews on these components...just press releases and show sightings (RMAF, CES).

Good question. On the Peachtree site it looks like the Pre is available now and the Integrated is on pre-order for availability in Dec. 2011. So... they should both be out. But, like you, I haven't seen anything from anyone who's actually used them.
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post #1551 of 1868
1/20/12 at 6:51am
Hey I just got a Decco2 from crutchfield at 599 and this thing ROCKS!

I currently have them hooked up to tiny Klipsch Icon speakers and need MORE!

I am looking at the monitor audio XR2 and Zu Omen's any thoughts or suggestions other than those too that I should consider.

As for a lack of dock im going to hook up a Sonos ZP90 and stream from the ipod/computer
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post #1552 of 1868
1/22/12 at 3:26pm
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Originally Posted by nybroker View Post

Hey I just got a Decco2 from crutchfield at 599 and this thing ROCKS!

I currently have them hooked up to tiny Klipsch Icon speakers and need MORE!

I am looking at the monitor audio XR2 and Zu Omen's any thoughts or suggestions other than those too that I should consider.

As for a lack of dock im going to hook up a Sonos ZP90 and stream from the ipod/computer

Congrats on your purchase - May I ask why you ended up buying the decco?
I also ordered mine, but I'm still not 100% that I have made the right choice given the size of the decco2 and its limited output.

Did you consider that Wadia 151 or the Teac AH01-S?
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post #1553 of 1868
1/27/12 at 8:56am
Hi,

I run my music from my mac laptop through an airport express into my Nova via optical.

The AE only channels 16/44 into the Nova. I believe the Nova then upsamples the music to 24/96.

I am looking at the Pure Music software program to run in conjunction with iTunes. It upsamples to 24/96.

I am thinking about either going directly into my Nova sometimes and/or finding an alternative wireless delivery system that can handle a 24/96 up sampled file.

Here's my question:

If the Nova is already upsampling to 24/96, is there any advantage to upsampling the music file before delivering it to the Nova?

I'm a bit new to this discussion and learning a ton. I appreciate any insights here.
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post #1554 of 1868
1/27/12 at 10:43am
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Originally Posted by explorz View Post

Hi,

I run my music from my mac laptop through an airport express into my Nova via optical.

The AE only channels 16/44 into the Nova. I believe the Nova then upsamples the music to 24/96.

I am looking at the Pure Music software program to run in conjunction with iTunes. It upsamples to 24/96.

I am thinking about either going directly into my Nova sometimes and/or finding an alternative wireless delivery system that can handle a 24/96 up sampled file.

Here's my question:

If the Nova is already upsampling to 24/96, is there any advantage to upsampling the music file before delivering it to the Nova?

I'm a bit new to this discussion and learning a ton. I appreciate any insights here.

Here's a short article on upsampling (and oversampling).

http://www.stereophile.com/asweseeit/344/
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post #1555 of 1868
1/27/12 at 10:51am
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Originally Posted by Tugg McGroyn View Post

Good question. On the Peachtree site it looks like the Pre is available now and the Integrated is on pre-order for availability in Dec. 2011. So... they should both be out. But, like you, I haven't seen anything from anyone who's actually used them.

Hello, all. I recently posted this on the Computer Audiophile DAC forum:

I've certainly benefited from the content in this forum, so it makes sense for me to chime in and describe my first-hand experience using the Peachtree Audio Grand Pre.

My audio system consists of the following:

Source Components
* 2009 Mac Mini
* BOLDER-modified Logitech Squeezebox Duet and linear power supply
* Oppo BDP-83
* Verizon FiOS HD DVR and set-top box
* XBox 360

Processors and Amplifiers
* Peachtree Audio Grand Pre DAC, preamplifier and headphone amplifier
* Integra DTC-9.8 AV Controller
* Musical Fidelity A308cr power amplifier
* PS Audio Trio A-100 power amplifier

Speakers
* Magnepan 1.7
* Magnepan MC1
* Paradigm SUB 1
* AKG K701 headphones with Cardas FatPipe

Other Notables
* Acoustic Sciences 16"x48" TubeTraps
* Acoustic Sciences 22" SubTrap
* RealTraps MiniTraps and MicroTraps
* Two dedicated 20-amp circuits
* Power line conditioners by PS Audio and Furman Sound
* Cables ranging from stock to sort-of-fancy

I identified the Grand Pre as the ideal component to upgrade the two-channel audio signal path in my system. It integrates well with my home theater system and has enough inputs and outputs to accommodate my sources, amplifiers and subwoofer.

For two-channel audio, the Grand Pre has already exceeded my expectations. Compared to digital audio converted-and-controlled by the Integra, the Grand Pre achieves greater resolution and dynamics, all while sounding smoother and warmer. I also enjoy engaging and disengaging the tube buffer stage using the remote control. Based on my listening to-date, I generally prefer the tubes disengaged for high-quality recordings and engaged for lower-quality recordings and compressed audio files. That pattern could easily change, though.

The headphone amplifier section is fantastic and can be used with the tube buffer stage either engaged or disengaged. My AKG K701s are extremely resolving and smooth powered by the Grand Pre, and low frequency performance is excellent, which can be an issue with the K701s. The quality of the built-in headphone amplifier has been a very pleasant surprise.

I have not tried the USB input, yet, although I will in the coming months. I've grown accustomed to the Squeezebox / iPeng interface, which I think is great. The Bolder Cable Company modifications to the Duet and linear power supply make this a source to be reckoned with.

Lastly, the build quality is what one would expect for a $3k component: very, very good. I particularly appreciate the high-quality surface-mounted RCA connectors on the back.

The Grand Pre has a number of features and attributes on which I have not commented. Feel free to ask me questions, and I'll do my best to answer.
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post #1556 of 1868
1/28/12 at 8:29am
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Originally Posted by explorz View Post

Hi,

I run my music from my mac laptop through an airport express into my Nova via optical.

The AE only channels 16/44 into the Nova. I believe the Nova then upsamples the music to 24/96.

I am looking at the Pure Music software program to run in conjunction with iTunes. It upsamples to 24/96.

I am thinking about either going directly into my Nova sometimes and/or finding an alternative wireless delivery system that can handle a 24/96 up sampled file.

Here's my question:

If the Nova is already upsampling to 24/96, is there any advantage to upsampling the music file before delivering it to the Nova?

I'm a bit new to this discussion and learning a ton. I appreciate any insights here.

In my opinion, it's a good idea to send a digital music file to any dac in it's native resolution.

As I understand it, and I'm more than happy to be corrected on this, the output to the express is as you say, 16/44, regardless of file resolution in your laptop. So, any digital file being played from iTunes through the express that's not at this resolution is being upsampled before it's sent to the express.

As I understand it, and again I'm more than happy to be corrected on this, the output through usb from iTunes, when configured in audio midi setup, is also upsampled (to audio midi value) before output to the dac.

This is where a player such as Decibel can make a difference. Decibel sends the digital music file to the external dac via usb in it's native format. There's no additional tampering with the file before it finds it's way to the DAC.

My music server lives about 7 meters from my media rack. For this reason I've been streaming music through iTunes to an express for several years. I recently decided to do an experiment, and purchased a usb cable with a built in booster chip to overcome the 5 meter usb limitation. Understanding that a long cable like this would likely degrade the signal resulting in a less than optimum audio quality, the question I wanted to answer was, to what degree might this occur. This experiment was designed to find out. I ran the cable down the wall, through the crawl, and up the wall to the media center. I then downloaded Decibel to take advantage of the demo period. The results were astonishing.

In my experience, sonic improvments tend to be incremental in nature when doing upgrades. Each new (carefully considered) upgrade chips away at improving the quality of the audio that reaches my ears. My neighbor and I jokingly say "It's as if a veil were lifted" each time we do a new upgrade. But often the veil can be quite thin and the sonic improvement quite subtle. There is nothing subtle about the sonic improvement when listening through Decibel. Plus, at less than $70 for Decibel and the cable, and a couple of hours in the crawl space, it's a real value.

I've since added a usb to coaxial bridge which allows me to send native 24/96 files from my server. My server is now rivaling SACD and DVD Audio output from my Oppo. I never thought I'd see the day.

And in case anyone is wondering, I'm not affiliated with Decibel. I'm just a happy audio consumer.
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post #1557 of 1868
1/29/12 at 1:24pm
Hi all.

So after lot of runing around i found a nice pair of Vienna acoustics Haydn grand and so far for my listening it has beaten my old pair of Vienna acoustics waltz grand in good level...

Haydn Specs

4 ohm
Sensitivity:89db
Recommended Amplifiers Drive Units 25 - 180 Watts



I am getting Peachtree Decco2



so this is the setup in two days..


PC->peachtree decco2-> Vienna acoustics Haydn

My question can Deco2 Amp can handle the power hungry Vienna Acoustics Haydn or else i need an amp...btw i have already zerod in amp ...

Marantz MA 500 amp (mono) ...

4Ω 20 Hz - 20 kHz <.09% THD 180


Any recommendation or suggestion you guys suggest....
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post #1558 of 1868
1/29/12 at 2:38pm
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PC->peachtree decco2-> Vienna acoustics Haydn

My question can Deco2 Amp can handle the power hungry Vienna Acoustics Haydn or else i need an amp...btw i have already zerod in amp ...

Marantz MA 500 amp (mono) ...

4Ω 20 Hz - 20 kHz <.09% THD 180


Any recommendation or suggestion you guys suggest....

It might be able to drive them at low levels but you could have problems if the impedance dips below 4 ohms. I think an external amp would be a good idea. The one you listed or perhaps something from Parasound or Emotiva (low cost options) should work for you. For example the Parasound NewClassic 275 is rated at 125W into 4 ohms. If you want more power the 2125 is rated at 200W into 4 ohms. Not sure what your budget is but I offered some suggestions in any case.
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post #1559 of 1868
1/29/12 at 3:31pm
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It might be able to drive them at low levels but you could have problems if the impedance dips below 4 ohms. I think an external amp would be a good idea. The one you listed or perhaps something from Parasound or Emotiva (low cost options) should work for you. For example the Parasound NewClassic 275 is rated at 125W into 4 ohms. If you want more power the 2125 is rated at 200W into 4 ohms. Not sure what your budget is but I offered some suggestions in any case.

thanks for the help..

i already ordered pair of Marantz Ma 500 4 ohm 185W ...for this speaker...will see how they sound with this...

had another thought what kinda output is needed from a Tube amp...heard there power are way more then listed...

was thinking of miniwatts n3 which has 3.5W for 8ohm i guess for 4ohm 7W...


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post #1560 of 1868
2/10/12 at 7:56am
I'm extremely frustrated and I really hope that you can help me. 4 Weeks ago I bought an iNova and I really love it. At the same time I also bought the Wharfedale Jade 5, also superb speakers.

But there is a problem: If I connect the Jade 5 speakers with the iNova, I always hear loud crackle at the right speaker (recording: d.pr/SpeL ) at higher household noise level or louder. It is unimportant, which of both speakers I connect, it is always only the right speaker ( = the speaker connected to the right output). The left Jade 5 always works without any problem.
I sent the iNova to the german distribution (Robert Ross Audiophile), but they couldn't find any fault. I also bought a second iNova and it is still the same problem.
The strange thing is that the Jade 5 works perfectly with a other AV-receiver. I can't imagine that the speakers are broken. As I said, the left speaker at the iNova always works without any crackle.
I had the chance to test the iNova with some cheap 100 speakers and there wasn't any crackle, even at the same loudness.

I tried it with many speaker cables (with banana, without) and different audio sources (usb, analog, digital and iPod) and it is always the same problem.

Now I don't know what to do. This is my first hifi purchase and it is a lot of money for me! Could you please help me?
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