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post #1921 of 2008

Hi guys,

 

I landed on here after researching while waiting for my Salk SongTowers. I put down my deposit over a month ago and my Peachtree's are collecting dust. 

 

I was wondering who's had any experience with those two products together. I went for the Nova Pre/220 combo and I HOPE it will sound as good as I think. I got the Oppo 103 for good measure for not only a disc spinner, but a networking streamer so I can push flacs to the Oppo with Jriver. I experimented on other crappy speakers plugged into the TV and it works great. When the Salks are done, I expect great sound. Am I correct thinking this?

 

I'm VERY excited and I hope I get a positive reply and feel that I made some good choices.

 

 

Thanks!

post #1922 of 2008
i imagine the peachtree combo will be more than enough to handle those salks. i pretty positive you won't be disappointed
post #1923 of 2008

Thanks! That's what I'm thinking too, but the wait is creating doubt. Your post helps! I've  been waiting since Sept 20th......

post #1924 of 2008
just realize that your thoughts are irrational to help calm you down. because surely, you don't think it's going to sound bad or you wouldn't have bought them.
post #1925 of 2008

Ha, true. It's this time I spend online researching while I wait is making me crazy. I'm looking at the amp and pre now and it's killing me! Yeah, it's certainly going to sound better than the wimpy computer speakers! :)

 

And there's so much positive stuff about the Salks. Seems like I can't go wrong.

post #1926 of 2008
so go hook them up to your car speakers
...via extension cord obviously
post #1927 of 2008

hi, 

 

first of all, sorry for my bad english, i'm french speaking from belgium

 

 

I purchased a Nova 125, 4 month ago and i'm using it with Matisse HD from davis acoustique speakers

 

and i'm very disappointed by the result. Ok it's wamer than my previous one (Cambridge 450 + Kef Iq70), but it's too soft, the bass are not detailed, it's like a soup

And at the opposite, the high of the spectre is not very clear.

 

could you give me some proposals of speakers which could deliver a detailed and deep bass and a clear high spectre sound with the nova 125?

 

as i'm in europe, a french or british brand should be a good choice... could you help me?

 

(what do you think of KEF R500 / R700 for instance)

 

 

thank you so much 

 

Marc


Edited by marcmx1973 - 11/12/13 at 10:40am
post #1928 of 2008
Hi Peachtreers,

Does anyone happen to have a Peachtree Grand Integrated? Thoughts? I was set to buy the nova 125 but noticed the heavily discounted price on the refurbished grands. $3k is definitely a lot of money but if performance is right I may make the jump.

Thanks!
post #1929 of 2008
usually when a product is an exceptional value or great sounding you don't have to look for it. that being said, even though it would be easy to believe a bunch of people that take their time to share their experience, i would never buy a product without hearing it first. Look at any thread on here and most of them will be which is better questions. How many of those people say, :"well i haven't heard the other options, but this one is great." With an amp, it's even worse as most people have never done a double blind test with an acoustically treated room and proper set up.
I'm not trying to sound negative. I am just trying to do for you what someone else would do for me.
What is your set up now if you don't mind me asking
post #1930 of 2008
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Originally Posted by Nonpoint View Post

Hi Peachtreers,

Does anyone happen to have a Peachtree Grand Integrated? Thoughts? I was set to buy the nova 125 but noticed the heavily discounted price on the refurbished grands. $3k is definitely a lot of money but if performance is right I may make the jump.

Thanks!

The important thing to understand is that, in this day and age, amps are amps. They are very simple devices and all those in the hi fi business have inaudible distortion and accurate frequency response. Which means that sonics are not a reason to choose one over the other. Your decision should be made on everything else other than sound which you can view as a constant. Is $3000 a good value for a power amp? No not at all. So you need to consider other issues such as brand bias, cosmetics, pride of ownership and so forth. Just as the buyer of an expensive Swiss watch understands that it won't keep time any better than an ordinary watch, you need to understand that buying a high end amplifier won't have any effect on the sonics of your hi fi system. If you view it as audio jewelry then you will have your value.
post #1931 of 2008
Sorry, my edit turned into a double post.
post #1932 of 2008
i didn't want to look like i was trolling the peachtree thread
post #1933 of 2008
Thanks bthrb4u and FMW for your thoughts.

I have actually downgraded (in terms of price) from what I have had in the past. Right now I have a Onkyo a9050 and Soundfield M1 speakers with an oppo bdp-103 for playing music with an external hard drive. I also listen to a lot of music via headphones as well, using Beyer t1's right now.

I was looking for an integrated with more power and better headphone amp, and the nova 125 seemed to be ideal until I noticed the drop in price for the Grand.
post #1934 of 2008
with your t1's i suggest getting a dedicated headphone amp.
what db's are you getting with that 75w amp?
post #1935 of 2008
those are pretty efficient speakers.
how about this? it even has dolby headphone which would be great with those spacious t-1's
http://www.amazon.com/Harman-Kardon-3490-120-Watt-Receiver/dp/B00198F89A/ref=pd_cp_e_1
do you have a matching impedance headphone amp for the t-1's now?
post #1936 of 2008
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Originally Posted by bthrb4u View Post

those are pretty efficient speakers.
how about this? it even has dolby headphone which would be great with those spacious t-1's
http://www.amazon.com/Harman-Kardon-3490-120-Watt-Receiver/dp/B00198F89A/ref=pd_cp_e_1
do you have a matching impedance headphone amp for the t-1's now?

Good option. Heard the 3490 before. Was thinking the Peachtree would be a giant step up.
post #1937 of 2008
a better option would be a receiver with room correction software but i didn't suggest that being that i don't know if your room is treated or not.
post #1938 of 2008
unlike the title suggests, you don't need to be skeptical to understand what's going on here:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1494476/a-brief-guide-to-audio-for-the-skeptical-consumer/30#post_23942272
post #1939 of 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nonpoint View Post

Thanks bthrb4u and FMW for your thoughts.

I have actually downgraded (in terms of price) from what I have had in the past. Right now I have a Onkyo a9050 and Soundfield M1 speakers with an oppo bdp-103 for playing music with an external hard drive. I also listen to a lot of music via headphones as well, using Beyer t1's right now.

I was looking for an integrated with more power and better headphone amp, and the nova 125 seemed to be ideal until I noticed the drop in price for the Grand.

That's fine. I have no problem with that at all. I'm only suggesting that it will not affect the sound quality of your system. There is no reason to think a headphone amp in one unit is better in some way than the one in another unit just because of a price difference. Price and sound quality rarely have anything to do with each other in hi fi electronic components. Doubling the power will produce a 3 db addition to the overhead (unused amplifier power.) If one choice saves some money compared to the other choice, that is certainly positive. Good listening.
post #1940 of 2008

I just got one of the refurb Peachtree Grands about a week ago, so just getting used to it.   I'm a long-time lurker, but first time poster, wanted to chime in because I was in your shoes recently and there isn't that much out there about the GI...a few good reviews, but not a ton of user comments.  So I thought I'd join and contribute.

 

I bought the GI to pair with a set of B&W PM1 monitors.   I first paired the PM1 with a Marantz PM8004, and that was a poor marriage. At anything above 12 on the dial it seemed like the sound compressed and got very unpleasant.  It's hard to explain, except to say that loud music passages didn't play loud - they played as if someone briefly turned the volume down, then back up.  And the music didn't stay defined and distinct - it just sounded like a mess.  My guess is that the PM8004's 70wpc weren't enough for the PM1, as they dip to 5.1 ohms and have a sensitivity measurement of 84dB. 

 

I just recently picked up a pre-owned Audio Research VSi55, which sounds fantastic with the PM1.  But that was earmarked for another listening room, with a set of Proacs, so I still needed an amp for the PM1 after I sold the Marantz.   I mention all this so you understand my perspective and recent equipment pairings, so you know where I'm coming from. 

 

While listening to the Marantz, and even the ARC, I kept wondering "what would the PM1 sound like if I fed them a ton of clean power".  I looked at pre-owned Bel Canto S300iu, W4S integrateds, and almost pulled the trigger on the Peachtree Novapre + 220 combo.   But seeing that Peachtree paired the Grand with B&W 802D for show demos sort of kept me thinking that if they felt it was good enough for the 802D, it would surely answer any questions I had about powering the PM1.  So I ordered one.

 

I don't think it's appropriate to give a review of the sound, because the way it sounds with my speakers in my room with my carpet and furniture and paintings and my music really has no bearing on how it will sound in your room with your speakers etc. etc.  But here are some thoughts after 1 week:

 

- Build quality is superb, far exceeded my expectations.  It's GORGEOUS to touch and look at.    I read about the "half-inch thick steel faceplate" but didn't give it much though until I saw it in person.  It really is half an inch thick, and the whole unit is built well and feels great.  I'm not rich, so when I spend some money I want to feel like I'm getting something of substance and quality, and the GI is impressive and so nice to look at. 

 

- My fiance says she could hear a difference with the tubes on vs. SS, I struggled to hear a difference, but it's possible I should have let it break in longer than 70 or so hours.  Either way, I picked up a set of Cifte 1962 12AU7 tubes, and they make more of a difference (to my ears) than the original tubes, and they do change the sound - on recordings that are a little too edgy, turning on the tubes adds some warmth and a bit of depth to the sound.  Best way to describe it is to say that it sounds like going from a nightclub to a chamber hall - the music sounds like it's coming from a larger space.  I don't use the tubes with everything, but they help on lots of older recordings that need some taming.

 

- Changing the tubes was easy - just removed some hex screws on top and lifted the top lid, which is another chance to admire the build quality.  The top lid is solid steel, with a large rubber pad underneath for damping.  I've owned some "cheap" feeling stuff in my life - this feels the opposite of cheap.

 

- As far as sound goes, I can now turn up the PM1 very loud and the sound stays clear and defined no matter how much pain I want to subject my ears to.  The real difference though is the bass response - going from the Marantz to the ARC was surprising, as I didn't know the PM1 could produce that much bass from such a small cabinet.  Well, going from the ARC to the Peachtree is even more dramatic - I can't believe how much bass can come out of a little speaker.  When I first got the PM1 I had some regret that I should have gotten floor standers, and the Marantz didn't help.  That's no longer a concern.   With the GI, the PM1 sound MUCH bigger than their size, shockingly so.  Is that because of the power in the Peachtree?  Or the quality of the DAC?   I don't know.   But the marriage seems to work - they play clean, they play loud, they sound sweet, and they are imaging beautifully.

 

- Finally, I read a lot of comments about class D amps being overly cold, or sterile, or ice-picky, or a bunch of terms that seemed scary.  Again, I can't say how the Peachtree will sound in your room with your speakers, but in my room with my B&W PM1 the sound is warm, and sweet, and easy on the ears, and I enjoy it.  So it looks good, it feels good when playing with the buttons and stuff, and good music seems to come out of it.  That's the happy ending I was aiming for.  It isn't inexpensive, at least by my standards, but I think trying to cut corners with the amp source for the PM1 was a mistake, and I needed to correct it, and for me personally I'd rather spend a little extra and not have to think about it anymore, rather than save a little and wonder why the sound isn't what I thought it should be.

 

Lastly, I read a lot of reviews on the PM1, both good and bad.  Lots of comments about "can't play loud", "no bass", "sound small", "harsh top end", etc.  Now that I've had my little journey from the Marantz to the Peachtree, I have to wonder how many of these people heard the PM1 hooked up to the wrong amp.  If you heard the PM1 connected to the Marantz, you'd never buy them.  But if B&W demo'ed the PM1 with the Peachtree Grand (maybe they do in some shops?), I don't think people would hesitate to pull out their credit cards.  People told me, and maybe I didn't get it, but it really is about pairing the right speakers with the right amp/source - synergy matters.   Hope all this rambling helps.

post #1941 of 2008
Thanks for sharing afwares. I decided to purchase the nova 125 after seeing the black Friday sale. Still drooling over the grand, glad to hear you are enjoying it. Going to have some long listening sessions to compare my new purchase to the humble onkyo.
post #1942 of 2008

Hello all!

 

I'm new to AVS; what a great resource this is. I'm strongly considering a Grand Integrated for my system... My current system consists of an NAD M51 DAC/Pre and a Simaudio Moon 330 Amplifier. I'm happy with the sound from this setup, but I want to accomplish 3 things with the GI.  First, I will need equipment that will run on 110-240V... (I will be moving to Asia soon). Second I want a better USB implementation than my current system... USB straight from my Macbook doesn't sound as good as the same files streamed through my AppleTV... go figure! Last, I would like to match or exceed the current performance of my separates with a single box. One more thing... recently, someone who's involved in the industry mentioned that Peachtree was discontinuing the GI... the current Peachtree stock possibly reflects this (60-90 days backorder  for a new GI). I would also like to hear Peachtree's opinions on these questions.  Cheers!

post #1943 of 2008

Hi afwares, I made an account, just for this thread and possibly get further impressions from you.

I have the PM1's as well, currently with burson audio gear, HA 160D headphone amp/dac with pre outs, and the PP-160 power amplifier.

 

http://bursonaudio.com/HA_160D.html

http://bursonaudio.com/Burson_PP160.htm

 

Reading your post was interesting as my amp is class AB, with output power 70W @ 8 Ohm / 140@ @ 4 Ohm.

 

I have no sub yet for my stereo set up, but interested in what you said about gaining alot from the Grand Integrated.

 

I really want to get the best out of my B&W PM1's but wonder what gain I would achieve with the Gi.

Seeing as you pointed to 70Wpc was not really enough to drive them properly, I'm looking into this all in one unit.

 

If you have any other thoughts or if anyone else would like to respond on if the GI matched with the PM1's and possibly a sub in the future, I'd love to hear it.

 

At the moment I think they sound great, but have to put the volume way past 12 o'clock to get them singing, thus I do think they need more power, so perhaps they are lacking.


Edited by rainfox - 12/7/13 at 9:10pm
post #1944 of 2008

CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 85

 

 

By the time next week I'll be hearing beautiful HiRez files and the 220 will be driving these Salks like there's no tomorrow! :)

post #1945 of 2008

Hello!  

 

I'm new to AVS and also sort of new to the Peachtree setup.

 

My setup: Peachtree Nova 125 - paired with a new set of Totem Rainmakers. Loving the sound! So far connected a Rotel CD player. 

 

Problem: Cannot get audio from Macbook (mid 2008: specs http://support.apple.com/kb/sp5) to the Nova125.  The Macbook's speakers output the sound, rather than going thru the Nova

[Macbook]  ----> USB cable ---> [Nova 125's  USB port] 

 

1. Is there a setting on the Macbook that I need to set/tweak to get the audio to go via the USB port?

2. If I get a Mac Mini, and connect with a Toslink cable, do I need to do any further settings?  [ I dont have the Mini yet - but will get one soon]

 

Appreciate any help!  Thanks!!

AA

post #1946 of 2008
Hi Null,

Go to utilities > Audio Midi and you should be able to select the Peachtree as your output for sound.

Hope this helps.
post #1947 of 2008

Hi Nonpoint,

 

Thanks for your reply. 

I tried your method - but my Macbook still doesn't recognize the Nova125 connectd to the USB port. I tried both the USB ports - no dice.

Changed the cable (it actually works with the PC), but no changes.  The Audio MIDI utility doesnt see any audio output device/port. 

 

I finally connected a mini Toslink cable to the headphone out of Macbook, and into the Optical In of the Nova. That seemed to work. 

 

I'm completely flummoxed why the USB port on my Macbook isn't recognizing. Wondering if it's a problem w/ my Macbook (white macbook, early 2008; Intel Core2 duo, running 10.6.8 Mac OS X)

 

 

If anyone has seen this issue before, I'd love to hear how they solved it. 

 

Thanks!!

A

post #1948 of 2008

Hello,

 

One member of the forum suggested me to post in this thread for aditional information.

 

I just need some feedback of someone who has tried the Decco65 in similar conditions as mine vs the new Nova125. Because I'm deciding to buy one of these:

- Peachtre Nova125 or the Peachtree Decco65 (I can get this at half price than the nova125)

 

In my case I've bought 2 Monitor Audio Silver 8 (the new series that work at 4ohms, not the old RX8) so the 65W of the decco will turn into 95W with this speakers becasuse 4ohms.

 

So I am wondering if the amplification power of the DECCO65 will be enough to power correctly this 4Ohm Speakers. What do you recommend me guys? My room is quite big (40 squared meters or 20x20feet) but I usually listen music to moderate levels.

 

I copy to you the spect of this speakers and a picture of my listening/office room. Some adittional feedback would be appreciate, because my knowledge comes from guitar amplification and I am introducing in this hi-fi world which is totally different. I paste to you the specs of this floorstanders and picture of the listening room. Thanks!

 

post #1949 of 2008
Good day, just bought a nova 125. Plugged in my windows machine and having a blast(literally) with it. I have a library of flac files but I cant seem to play anything higher than 24/48. I use foobar2000 as my player and if I play 24/96 files and above, it stops and I get an unrecoverable error prompt. I already set the Nova 125 as default in windows audio panel and chose waspi peachtree audio usb on foobar. I tried setting it to default windows audio in foobar, same thing.

Thanks in advance.
post #1950 of 2008
Neither I manage to play 24/96 files with Foobar, both with my Nova125 and with the pc alone. So I concluded that Foobar is the problem. I play these files with JRiver very well.
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